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Sonic Central => General Sonic => Topic started by: P.P.A. on January 01, 2008, 06:36:37 am

Title: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: P.P.A. on January 01, 2008, 06:36:37 am
SA2: Shadow: HEY SONIC *hugs* WAIT YOU AREN'T SONIC YOU'RE BLACK
S06: Silver: HEY SONIC *gropes* OH WAIT YOU'RE NOT SONIC MORE GREY/WHITE I AM SORRY
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: DsSaster on January 01, 2008, 06:39:08 am
If only she would have hugged Mephiles...
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: eggFL on January 01, 2008, 07:59:40 am
I guess she relies more on her supposed 'hedgehog sense' than her eyes.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on January 01, 2008, 09:28:34 am
P.P.A., if you're going along the lines I think you are, just stop.

Oh, and was this really necessary?
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: P.P.A. on January 01, 2008, 09:31:19 am
P.P.A., if you're going along the lines I think you are, just stop.

Oh, and was this really necessary?
What? Did the first post sound racist because of the black/white thing? If yes, that was not intended at all, really. D:

Also I'm not even sure if Silver is white. He could also be a light grey or silver.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on January 01, 2008, 09:59:49 am
Yeah, it did. Which was what I was trying to convey.

And Silver is silver to me. If not, grey. NOT "white".
That's in my eyes, though.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: P.P.A. on January 01, 2008, 11:52:14 am
Well sorry then, I didn't mean it to sound like that.

And Silver looks light grey, silver and darkish white at the same time to me. X_X
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Silver-large.png
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on January 01, 2008, 01:22:26 pm
Pssh.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: ChaoRC on January 01, 2008, 02:23:58 pm
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/galapagosturtle/amyneedsglasses.gif)


:(
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: bertin on January 01, 2008, 02:57:16 pm
If only she would have hugged Mephiles...


Yeah and then Mephiles would have raped her.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on January 01, 2008, 03:08:48 pm
Nice, ChaoRC. Summarizes everything PPA was trying to convey nicely.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Waxwings on January 01, 2008, 03:11:47 pm
The whole joke is this:

Hedgehogs are colorblind naturally.
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Post by: Selphos on January 01, 2008, 03:13:56 pm
XD
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: P.P.A. on January 01, 2008, 03:15:49 pm
XD

Waxwings wins the thread.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: bertin on January 01, 2008, 03:25:58 pm
The whole joke is this:

Hedgehogs are colorblind naturally.

Yeah but anyone could tell the difference between the shape of the spikes.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: eggFL on January 02, 2008, 01:13:51 am
ok I will stick to my Sonic sense theory if nobody minds >_>
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: ChaoRC on January 02, 2008, 11:25:49 pm
SA2: Shadow: HEY SONIC *hugs* WAIT YOU AREN'T SONIC YOU'RE BLACK
S06: Silver: HEY SONIC *gropes* OH WAIT YOU'RE NOT SONIC MORE GREY/WHITE I AM SORRY

The whole joke is this:

Hedgehogs are colorblind naturally.

But if they are colorblind, then how would she of known that they were Black/Grayish colored?
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: eggFL on January 03, 2008, 03:24:56 am
now that you mention it, she does refer to Shadow as a black hedgehog. That means she can't be colorblind... right? o.o
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Zeupar on January 04, 2008, 07:07:09 am
People who suffer color blindness haven't problems with colour black. I know that because I'm deuteranomalous and know some facts about color blindness.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: F-Man on January 04, 2008, 01:33:05 pm
People who suffer color blindness haven't problems with colour black. I know that because I'm deuteranomalous and know some facts about color blindness.
To start off, black is not a color, which kinda helps.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: eggFL on January 04, 2008, 03:05:10 pm
People who suffer color blindness haven't problems with colour black. I know that because I'm deuteranomalous and know some facts about color blindness.
To start off, black is not a color, which kinda helps.

black is a color... >_>
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Thorn on January 04, 2008, 03:08:04 pm
^Black describes a lack of color/light. White is a color.
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Post by: Crowbar on January 04, 2008, 03:52:36 pm
However you put it, neither is affected by any sort of colour-blindness. Anybody who isn't completely blind can tell the difference between black, white, and mid-tones (so blue).

So we have to conclude that Amy is either blind or just fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Combo on January 04, 2008, 04:00:28 pm
However you put it, neither is affected by any sort of colour-blindness. Anybody who isn't completely blind can tell the difference between black, white, and mid-tones (so blue).

So we have to conclude that Amy is either blind or just fucking stupid.

fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: ChaoRC on January 04, 2008, 05:13:12 pm
My .gif still stands.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: bertin on January 05, 2008, 12:02:18 am
I say she's fucking stupid
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Zeupar on January 05, 2008, 03:20:50 am
People who suffer color blindness haven't problems with colour black. I know that because I'm deuteranomalous and know some facts about color blindness.
To start off, black is not a color, which kinda helps.

Black is a colour. I doubt you will never hear a chatter like that:

Random guy: What's the colour of your car?
Imsocleverandfoolatthesametime guy: My car has no colour; it's black. <_<

Using strict definitions to refute this would be stupid. Sometimes life is the best dictionary.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: F-Man on January 05, 2008, 06:00:17 am
People who suffer color blindness haven't problems with colour black. I know that because I'm deuteranomalous and know some facts about color blindness.
To start off, black is not a color, which kinda helps.

Black is a colour. I doubt you will never hear a chatter like that:

Random guy: What's the colour of your car?
Imsocleverandfoolatthesametime guy: My car has no colour; it's black. <_<

Using strict definitions to refute this would be stupid. Sometimes life is the best dictionary.
You fool.

Here's the aspect of life I thought we were talking about: colorblindness. Yours as you said, as well as mine can perfectly determine black (no color) and white (all colors). That's because black is not a color and white is the perfect opposite. In real life, and stuff.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: ChaoRC on January 05, 2008, 02:48:05 pm
Only males can be colorblind, anyway. No female can get colorblindness. Hedgehogs are a different story.
Although, these are anthropomorphic hedgehogs, as in "human-like". So I doubt Amy is colorblind anyway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphic)
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Ring Rush on January 05, 2008, 03:23:32 pm
Only males can be colorblind, anyway. No female can get colorblindness.


...what?

Males have a much higher chance of being color blind (8x IIRC), but females can certainly be color blind as well, if their recessive traits match up.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: eggFL on January 05, 2008, 03:27:34 pm
Colorblind folk are usually guys? huh, interesting... I wonder what's the reason behind that.

Anyway, Amy is not blind! It's already said in the games that she uses a special sense to find Sonic. (apparently male hedgehogs to be specific) Of course, when she finds one, she doesn't actually look to see if it's Sonic or not. So she's only a little stupid. But considering how rare hedgehogs probably are, this kind of makes sense.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Ring Rush on January 05, 2008, 07:46:52 pm
Egg: Due to the X and Y chromosones, girls have to double up on the color blindness gene to be afflicted with it. Boys, being unable to have a dominant color gene on their Y chromosone, only need their single X to be color blind to inherit the trait.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: Waxwings on January 05, 2008, 08:02:23 pm
Hedgehogs have dichromatic vision (fully black and white), which isn't technically colorblindness. However, she should be able to distinguish the three.
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: ChaoRC on January 06, 2008, 01:45:34 am
Quote from: wiki
In the United States, about 7 percent of the male population – or about 10.5 million men – and 0.4 percent of the female population either cannot distinguish red from green, or see red and green differently (Howard Hughes Medical Institute, 2006). It has been found that more than 95 percent of all variations in human color vision involve the red and green receptors in male eyes.

Quote from: wiki
Genetic red-green color blindness affects men much more often than women, because the genes for the red and green color receptors are located on the X chromosome, of which men have only one and women have two. Such a trait is called sex-linked. Females (46, XX) are red-green color blind only if both their X chromosomes are defective with a similar deficiency, whereas males (46, XY) are color blind if their single X chromosome is defective.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorblind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorblind)

The rate of finding a female colorblind is an extreme rarity, more so than other traits. I guess my science teacher was wrong (!) Which is why I worded it like that. =/
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: zappykart on January 06, 2008, 04:28:38 am
I know that black = no light reflected and white = all light reflected but black is still a COLOR...

definition of color:

a visual attribute (appearance) of things that results from the light (or lack of light) they emit or transmit or reflect

You can see the blackness on black things...so it is a color.

maybe that's not worded correctly...eh whatever
Title: Re: Amy needs glasses. :(
Post by: PsyMar on January 06, 2008, 10:26:18 am
I've been helping copy-edit a book on digital media, and a lot of the book is devoted to the subject of "color", so I think I can help here.

The problem, really, is that there are two definitions of "color" used in the English language.

One is that of chrominance, or hue -- i.e. red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet -- which is considered in absence of luminance (where it falls on the black-white scale) and saturation (where it falls on the gray-neon scale).  Under this definition, black, white, and perfect greys are not colors (the formula for converting from red-green-blue intensity to hue-saturation-luminance intensity includes a divide by zero in this case, and thus hue is undefined.)

The other definition is of the combined result of the three factors -- a certain point in the 3-dimensional space formed by the axis of luminance, with saturation going inwards and outwards from the axis of luminance, and hue being the circular third axis.  By this definition, every color has a point, and so black, white, and greys in between are colors.