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Sonic Central => Competition Central => Topic started by: Strong Bad on April 13, 2010, 11:37:46 pm
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Like, seriously. :(
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Because if i submitted stats, it would give the game weight and let you catch up to me. :C
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I never got to play s3 much as a kid, so its still a very new game to me. I was working on stats, but got stuck in Carnival Night 1, frustrating...
I'll try some more some day...
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I may consider it after I'm through with the other games I'm working on. (SA2b, SADX, Heroes, All the GG Sonic games)
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SB: I'm waiting for you to lose interest so I can take the championship more easily... fighting with you is annoying, beating you when you stop playing is just a matter of me getting better than you thought was perfect~
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Well, I'm likely going to keep trying to improve my stats for another year or so, and if any developments in the game occur then I would definitely continue to compete. So good luck.
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I think the real question is: Why the hell does Strong Bad compete in Sonic 3?!
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Because I love Sonic 3 and it's my favorite game ever...!
If you want me to move on to S&K and lower your sitewide then just gimme the word bro.
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So yeah guys, let's discuss general Sonic 3 stuff.
I love how precise I have to jump sometimes while going uphill to go as fast as I can. Adds a ton of more skill to the game which you just lost.
Anyone wanna ask any questions about S3?!
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SB: I'm waiting for you to lose interest so I can take the championship more easily... fighting with you is annoying, beating you when you stop playing is just a matter of me getting better than you thought was perfect~
Bah, this isn't the right way to get a championship, I think... As a capoeira fighter, I like a good challenge.
I'll keep my efforts to get the best time chart in S3 so, don't think you'll have peace too easily, SB...
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I had already thought about playing Sonic 3 more often and submitting stats. But I've seen some giz's of Spindashmaster, and I actually can't believe you beat him in every ring record.
I might start competing on it sometime but I don't think I'll be very good.
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I think I should start competing in this. I hardly ever play/submit in 2D games, so yeah I'll give it a shot. :D
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I had already thought about playing Sonic 3 more often and submitting stats. But I've seen some giz's of Spindashmaster, and I actually can't believe you beat him in every ring record.
I might start competing on it sometime but I don't think I'll be very good.
most of SDMs ring records were already perfect, so he didn't beat him in every one, only a few. he just tied him on the rest.
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I only beat him on 2 levels in Rings, and he can at any point re-do those RA's (he simply missed a large ring) to tie them again. There are two RA's I still need to re-do, however.
Romulo: I am eager to see your efforts on the Times charts! I'm already impressed by several of your times, some of which I have yet to achieve. If you need any help on any stage, just let me know =)
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By the way, you guys should bug me on IRC over the weekend to record CN2-S.
It's going to be extremely difficult to get a good run recorded. I might be satisfied with like 1:52, actually. So much opportunity for error -_-
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Romulo: I am eager to see your efforts on the Times charts! I'm already impressed by several of your times, some of which I have yet to achieve. If you need any help on any stage, just let me know =)
I'm very happy to know that I have a new friend on this very cool place... :D
Just for a starting, can you help me with the slope glitch in Ice Cap 1? (Just send me a pm or an e-mail telling me how to do it)
Also, I can help you with other speedruns if you want, right?
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I will hopefully be getting to doing some Sonic 3 records ;P
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Romulo: I am eager to see your efforts on the Times charts! I'm already impressed by several of your times, some of which I have yet to achieve. If you need any help on any stage, just let me know =)
I'm very happy to know that I have a new friend on this very cool place... :D
Just for a starting, can you help me with the slope glitch in Ice Cap 1? (Just send me a pm or an e-mail telling me how to do it)
Also, I can help you with other speedruns if you want, right?
Ya can you help me too?
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Certainly. Post your requests here and I'll see what I can do. I believe in open competition, rather than keeping strategies to myself in order to secure championships or records, so just ask!
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Certainly. Post your requests here and I'll see what I can do. I believe in open competition, rather than keeping strategies to myself in order to secure championships or records, so just ask!
Hmm, can you help me with Hydrocity2?
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you have to die first and go through the left wall using the moving wall to push you into the floor.
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Yeah, there are some .gizes in the .giz topic. Always check there before posting here :P
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Yeah, there are some .gizes in the .giz topic. Always check there before posting here :P
As you know, I don't have a computer so, I can't use gens to see the gizes... I play only on my Genesis console. :P
Also, thanks for the tips, fuzzerd.
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Yeah, there are some .gizes in the .giz topic. Always check there before posting here :P
I can't view the files that eredani has on my gens emulator. They are gmzs. Anyone know how to view them?
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never heard of a gmz. but if they're .GMVs you need gens-rr to play it
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^ Ya, that's what I meant. Damn, a lot of the shit I type here is always wrong.
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Why don't I compete? Because I have a lot fo trouble against som many of the bosses. s3 pushed the boss difficulty up a few notches from s2. Take Ice Cap 1. Theres really no time to react to the ice blasts, and there is no pattern to if its sideways or down...
If I can't beat bosses at all, not like I can do RA or SA either. There's always time attack though!
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Romulo: what, you don't have a computer...?! <_< I can try to get some .avi's of them up, I suppose... but why don't you have a computer :(
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Romulo: what, you don't have a computer...?! <_< I can try to get some .avi's of them up, I suppose... but why don't you have a computer :(
Because I don't have enough money to get one :( ... I always post my stats from a cybercafe or from my aunt's house. But I'll start my new job next week so, hopefully I'll get a computer (and a Mega CD for the Sonic CD competition- be ready, maggot!)soon...
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Why don't I compete? Because I have a lot fo trouble against som many of the bosses. s3 pushed the boss difficulty up a few notches from s2. Take Ice Cap 1. Theres really no time to react to the ice blasts, and there is no pattern to if its sideways or down...
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uh... what are you talking about?
the icecap 1 boss is easy as pie especially as sonic. and everything he does is on a pattern.
and no s3 boss can compare to the metropolis boss. even the grabby guy at the end is easy in comparison.
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LOLL FuzZerd speaks truth
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Certainly. Post your requests here and I'll see what I can do. I believe in open competition, rather than keeping strategies to myself in order to secure championships or records, so just ask!
Obviously some of you guys have heard that me and mike will be doing a S3&K co-op run for SDA when I go to Australia in about 4 months time. I will be doing the easy bits but just in case there are parts that mike can't do, it would be really useful if I can pull it off >_>. So I was wondering if you could help me out please :(. I think at SDA the speed runners thank people for helping them in their comments so of course I will put you in there :)
Also if there is anyone out there who could help me, I would really appreciate it and will also thank them in my comments. Oh and can someone help us to get netplay working so me and mike can practice together. We can't get it to work :(
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Kind of need specific things if you need help with something. Keep in mind my S&K knowledge is also fairly limited, though since the game mechanics are more or less the same I can likely help out depending on what it is.
and I can definitely help you get Netplay working. hit me up on MSN or IRC sometime.
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I have a question. Is there a wall-zip on Angel Island Act 2 for Knuckles? I would like to know where, SB.
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There is one. I haven't been able to reproduce it ever. It was in one of the 3 loops going downhill; I did a downloop jump and went through the floor and then zipped around a bit. I don't even know if it'd save time off of the 0:36 that eredani and I have, but it's possible. It'd likely be able to zip to the boss or at least the area by the last checkpoint, I think.
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Kind of need specific things if you need help with something. Keep in mind my S&K knowledge is also fairly limited, though since the game mechanics are more or less the same I can likely help out depending on what it is.
and I can definitely help you get Netplay working. hit me up on MSN or IRC sometime.
Thanks :) So now I nearly have everything I need, except for the TAS of S3&K where it uses both S&T, which will come in handy. Since I think it's a GMV so I can see the input on gens re-recording. Luckily there are videos and gizes around so I can look at.
Specific things would be like CN1 with the balloons, spindash and zip to the boss. Also the glitch in IC1 would be useful. Just little things like that I need help on. There might be more that I can't remember, but I'll let you when I go through it, if you can help me on it.
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Obviously some of you guys have heard that me and mike will be doing a S3&K co-op run for SDA when I go to Australia in about 4 months time. I will be doing the easy bits but just in case there are parts that mike can't do, it would be really useful if I can pull it off >_>. So I was wondering if you could help me out please :(. I think at SDA the speed runners thank people for helping them in their comments so of course I will put you in there :)
Well, I'm not good with Sonic or Tails as I am with Knuckles, but I can help you with the stages where the records are mine. Just hit me up on msn, right?
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Obviously some of you guys have heard that me and mike will be doing a S3&K co-op run for SDA when I go to Australia in about 4 months time. I will be doing the easy bits but just in case there are parts that mike can't do, it would be really useful if I can pull it off >_>. So I was wondering if you could help me out please :(. I think at SDA the speed runners thank people for helping them in their comments so of course I will put you in there :)
Well, I'm not good with Sonic or Tails as I am with Knuckles, but I can help you with the stages where the records are mine. Just hit me up on msn, right?
Thanks I'll do that :O So you may have noticed that I broke the record on CN1 as sonic O_O So yes I can zip to the boss area perfectly but I can't do the the bit after the baloons and before the zip consistently. Is there a way of doing it? :(
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Thanks I'll do that :O So you may have noticed that I broke the record on CN1 as sonic O_O
WHAT??? A zip in CN1?? Please can you tell me how can I do it?
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WHAT??? A zip in CN1?? Please can you tell me how can I do it?
This is old news: http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php/topic,2586.msg50608.html#msg50608
It's the last one in that post, along with tails, though thats not a zip, FF might be talking about something different, but I really don't think so.
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assuming you still can't play .giz files, but can play youtube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZrmey6EEHE
but thats in the videos section so I'm kind of surprised you missed it if thats the case.
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WHAT??? A zip in CN1?? Please can you tell me how can I do it?
This is old news: http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php/topic,2586.msg50608.html#msg50608
It's the last one in that post, along with tails, though thats not a zip, FF might be talking about something different, but I really don't think so.
Ok I tried to post in here last night that I got 0:41 but it wouldn't let me >_> Anyway just seen werster's giz and I did it slightly different to him. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtGSdhj8BWk&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtGSdhj8BWk&feature=player_embedded)
Unfortunately I didn't record the 0:41 because I wasn't expecting it O_o. So I tried to record it again and after an hour that was the best I could do. I have to admit at 0:13 of the video that is awesome :D. I've pulled that move off at least 5 times now, but most of the time I just do what Tails does. I can spindash and zip to the boss area consistently now, but I'm having trouble at 0:11 on the video. Sonic can be erractic sometimes :(. What I try to do is turn sonic round during mid-flight towards the first platform, then when he hits the curve I tap left 2 or 3 times. Sometimes it has worked for me and Sonic flies off to the left. Other times Sonic would just zip downwards or go up >_>
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Well I can hit it pretty consistently now (using werster's strategy for getting around the block, and my own neat little trick for getting into the wall that avoids the requirement to spindash) and just got 44. I think it's consistent enough that I'm going to add it to the SS route. :D
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I've been submitting a bunch of blue / green / yellow s3 stats lately. Despite being far from competition, the extra stats are surely giving you more site points, slowly. That was your goal, in the end, no?
But yeah, I'm far from trying to get yellows and then oranges, in any catagory. The game still feels very foreign, but I'd like to get yellow or high green, overall...
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I don't particularly care about the sitewide rankings, since they heavily weight Sonic Heroes and such <_<. My goal is to promote competition in Sonic 3 to push the game further, as I can't do it all by myself.
And lol... I still haven't gotten around to doing the zip in CN1-S.
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Ok up to Ice Cap now. I just wanted to know how that zip works in IC1. Can anyone tell me?
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it seems to me that its random and could kill you.
*FuzZerd waits for Strong_Bad to correct him and call him an idiot even though thats the way it is for me
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Actually I fit that description quite well too.
http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php/topic,2586.msg49496.html#msg49496
Watch the inputs of the two, it's really quite simple, all but about half a second is just "HOLD LEFT AND WHEE :D"
However if you are too lazy to actually watch that, after performing slope glitch you jump onto the platform below you and then quickly onto the despired slope that takes you to the right. Roll as you hit it of course, and start to hold left once you go into the wall. Change to holding right for about half a second just before leaving the wall, and then switch back to left till you jump out and reach the boss.
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when I tested this as tails alone I had to do crazy manuvering between holding left and right in order to avoid getting stuck. then had to time the jump out to about a frame in order to not die.
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it may seem random because human success in a high-failure rate environment lacks consistency, and thus appears random.
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Ok me and mike have tried using P2P mode on netplay but we can't connect to each other. We also have tried client mode on netplay but it's really laggy. So we decided to give up on netplay. So that means I will really need your help guys and mike to make me a really good speed runner and good at executing these glitches please :(
So first up is to look at this IC1 glitch *downloads werster's giz* which I may ask questions about soon. Also can anyone tell me how to make the CN1 glitch as sonic consistent? it's just the curve bit I have trouble with :(
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I have no idea how to make it consistent. In fact, I'm terrible at being consistent. The only consistency for me is inconsistency.
surtic: I'd like to congratulate you on 1:00 LB1-S. I am truly impressed. Keep up the good work, man. As a reward, here's a little sekret about AI1&2K-R (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2586.msg41853#msg41853).
FuzZerd: d'oh, gj 1upping me on LB1-S Score. I can't believe I never thought of that all those times I let Sonic sit there spindashing :/.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRkH7-nwfA
I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT WAS POSSIBLE!
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Neat. Can it be done without TAS though? ):
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I think just about anything can be done without TAS.