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Sonic Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: Parax on July 08, 2013, 06:24:57 am
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We need to see proof of the following stats:
Sonic 1 2013
- Green Hill 1 (Sonic) - Rings
- Green Hill 2 (Sonic) - Rings
- Marble 3 (Knuckles) - Rings
- Star Light 3 (Knuckles) - Rings
^ For these we need either a video or a description of how you got the stats. A picture will not suffice.
- Scrap Brain 3 (Tails) - Times
- Final Zone (Sonic) - Times
- Special Stage 6 (Sonic) - Times
Sonic 06
- Wave Ocean - Hard (Sonic) - Times
- Dusty Desert - Hard (Silver) - Times
- Iblis Phase 2 (Shadow) - Times
We would appreciate if you don't submit any more stats until this is resolved.
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I have a video of proof of Dusty Desert - Hard Embedded.
I'll make a video of Sonic 1 2013 - Green Hill Act 2 right now.
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Marble 3 (Sonic) Doesn't have a stat entered.
How do I show proof of a stat I don't have?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTFGZmYadIM
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Sorry, Knuckles, not Sonic.
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As I stated earlier, pics and that one video will be uploaded ASAP.
Any other stat should be changed by now.
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Post the pics and videos in here when you get them.
As for changing your other stats, yeah, that's not going to work. You need to prove the stats you had submitted when I posted the thread.
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Those other stats I never had. I'm changing them back to what they actually were.
S113 - Scrap Brain Act 3 (Tails) - 0:22
(http://i41.tinypic.com/sbsld1.png)
Sonic06 - Wave Ocean (Sonic) - Hard - 1'48"477
(http://i43.tinypic.com/11kz3pe.jpg)
S113 - Special Stage 6 (Sonic) - 0:08:83
(http://i40.tinypic.com/z7ssj.png)
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You never had them? Then why did you submit them?
edit: Also, that Wave Ocean Sonic stat is slower than the one you had submitted.
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Mainly because I just tried to remember what I had, and got it wrong. (As with Wave Ocean: Hard - Sonic)
Usually, that was the case.
I then made sure to see if I had those stats, which I didn't.
Also, I'm a desperate 12-year-old.
The video is being embedded as I type this.
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I doubt your explanation. Two reasons:
1. S113 doesn't save ring stats, so there's no way you could check whether you got them or not after the fact.
2. You've shown a pattern of submitting the same stat as flying fox, even when her stats were unmaxed or required an obscure strategy that you likely wouldn't know about.
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As in, I tried getting the stat again, and I couldn't get it, so I took it as I was lying.
I did these stats a while back, and tried to remember most of them, but really, I think I was overconfident in getting all those rings.
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Flying Fox PM-ed me about this yesterday, and she wanted a screen cap of SY2, SB2, and SB3 Tails.
I did so.
S113 - Green Hill Act 2 (Sonic) - 163 Rings
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/t9f86v/5)
(Sorry about the bad video quality, my 3DS was the only other recording device at the time)
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Is everything resolved yet?
Why is everyone looking at this?
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I took it as I was lying.
Then yes, everything's resolved. You've been banned from submissions.
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Prolly cause it's a "ATTN" post for a game that just got charts >.>
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Wha..
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I believe you misunderstood what I said.
I took it as I was lying.
Mainly because I just tried to remember what I had, and got it wrong
Those other stats I never had
Reason: Lied in the Ring Stats in Sonic 1 2013.
I hope you understand why you are banned from submissions, as you've shown you can't be trusted. If you ever wish to come back, you should read some of the other forum posts here to see how people have done it.
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Thank you for the advice.
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Meh, after some deliberation I'm going to change my mind on this one and leave you off with a warning. You're unbanned, but keep in mind: if this situation comes up again you will receive a ban and have your stats wiped. Don't submit anything you didn't get, intentionally or otherwise.
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I'll make sure to have proof before I submit something. (Video, Picture, etc.)
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I can't help but look at these ATTN posts and think of them as court cases.
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You still haven't proved your Final Zone Sonic Time from Time Attack mode. Please provide a screen cap of this.
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Also FocusSight I'd like you to go over your saved Time Attack stats and make absolutely sure that everything you have submitted is 100% correct.
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Ok. I'll do that right now.
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All stats have been changed to their original times. If the stat never changed, then it was correct.
Screen caps of all of the levels to come soon.
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Green Hill Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
GHZ1:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/qxqk36.png)
GHZ2:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/11twkcp.png)
GHZ3:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/ww1ch4.png)
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Marble Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
MZ1:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2lbz907.png)
MZ2:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2ujnot1.png)
MZ3:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/c8i1c.png)
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Spring Yard Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
SYZ1:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3xdt5.png)
SYZ2:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2d18eq0.png)
SYZ3:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/wweog7.png)
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Labyrinth Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
LZ1:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/10zo7z7.png)
LZ2:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/3wxhx.png)
LZ3:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/opv2nt.png)
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Star Light Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
SLZ1:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2z6bi8o.png)
SLZ2:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2i9421t.png)
SLZ3:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/33e5rmc.png)
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Scrap Brain Time Attack (Correct) Stats:
SBZ1:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/vimvrp.png)
SBZ2:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2ivk65u.png)
SBZ3:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2wew8dd.png)
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Sorry, My Computer went down for no reason when submitting the Final & Special Stage Pictures.
Don't worry, they are still on the computer, and they'll be uploaded soon.
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I'm just going to use a different computer, the monitor is now not turning on, when it was this morning and yesterday.
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On my other Vista right now, pics should be up soon.
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Final and Special Stage Time Attack (Correct) Times:
Final:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2lbgosz.jpg)
Special 1:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/4lqcf7.jpg)
Special 2:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/5l2rdi.jpg)
Special 3:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2nlxt74.jpg)
Special 4:
(http://i41.tinypic.com/epr43.png)
Special 5:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/jl53cn.png)
Special 6:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2rho5u8.png)
All Screen Caps of Time Attack mode posted.
If there is any inconsistencies between these stats and the ones submitted, PM me immediately, as I may have missed correcting that stat.
I hope this clears up that issue.
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Your Special Stage 1 and 4 Times are still wrong.
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I thought I changed Special Stage 1.
I'll check.
Does everything else seem right?
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Both Special Stage 1 & 4 are changed back to the correct times.
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I saw it and it's correct from your screen caps.
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If I sumbit any new S113 stat, I'll put proof on this board or a different one.
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If there is any other stat that's questionable, please reply with it.
~ FS64
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You do realize that only six of your stats that you've submitted on the S113 Time Attack chart, out of TWENTY FIVE, were correct. 19 of them were wrong. Hell, one of them was still wrong even after you corrected it (Marble 1). Some were off by a gigantic margin.
And that was just the S113 Time Attack charts. Who knows what's wrong with the rest of your stats. I've gone through and suspended all of your stats on the site. The only reason I'm not banning you at this point is because I'm giving extra consideration to your age.
If you want to keep your account on TSC this needs to stop. Don't submit anything until you've double and triple checked that it's 100% correct. This includes the centisecond value.
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Along with that, both Tails and Knuckles's Time Stats in S113 will be redone and pictures will be taken of those times.
Umbreon, I can understand your reason for doing this and I will make sure I have proof of every single stat I post.
Farewell, I'm going to re-enter some stats that I have proof for on this forum.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIjjgEvR2Vs
This video shows stats for Sonic '06 in both my save files (One on the Hard Drive, the other one on the System Memory).
It has finished uploading.
These stats are all true, and have been done (that why they are saved).
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I also suggest you start using the Modify button instead of quadruple posting
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Everything in Sonic '06 as it was in either of the two saves has been submitted.
If anyone notices an inconsistency or wants more proof of a possibly odd stat, reply it here, or PM me.
EDIT: I noticed a mistake of mine. I accidentally duplicated my stats for Solaris onto Team Attack Amigo, resulting in an highly unlikely time. It has been corrected, but Rings and Score still need to be redone.
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Knuckles Green Hill 2 0:17 -
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2llou36.jpg)
Knuckles Green Hill 1 0:27 -
(http://i42.tinypic.com/jr9pgj.jpg)
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Time Attack (Sonic) - Spring Yard 1 - 0:49:03
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2guicxz.jpg)
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I better post these here before someone calls me out on them:
(http://i44.tinypic.com/20jmlhd.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/9q9sae.jpg)
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I just want to be sure here, if there are ANY Questionable stats, please post them here or PM me.
I will give proof of them.
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I will also explain some stats if necessary (such as how I got Silver: Mission 7, because that might seem questionable to some, and I remember it fully).
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If you want me to tell you, I will, but it has been unreplicabable to me ever since that night.
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I might as well explain what happened. Here's what happened:
I was speedrunning the level on a Saturday Evening. It was about the 80th attempt. I was following a path that a guide gave me, but in that path, two kids moved from their original spots (The 2 Kids were: The one at the Neighborhood-ish area and the one around the fountain/ bridge area) and were directly put into the pathway I was going on. That gave me a bit of a time save. I finished the level with the time of 1'10"767 and took a picture, but deleted it because I thought it wouldn't be enough proof. The stat is shown in the '06 stat video I made. (NOTE: This was before I had a capture device, so recording was tougher than using a capture device)
EDIT: If anyone knows, is the placement of the kids in a specific spot, or an certain area in which it is random?
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Again, so people know I'm not BSing:
Sonic 06 - Silver: Mission 2 Time - 0'42"899:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/sfuqmh.jpg)
Done during Don_of_Bones's Sonic '06 Livestream
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Focus, just letting you know that you don't have to constantly update this topic unless someone actaully calls BS on you.
You can also put your image in your stat comment if you want to provide proof for said stat when you submit it.
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So, it's been over a year since I've been banned again. After the 2nd ban, I tried to show that I could become a better person over on Cyberscore. I originally went into the site thinking it was only a way to come back to TSC, but after going over there for around 3 months, I got to know the community. The staff at CS was and still is accepting of me, even after what happened over here. They helped me forget the error of my ways and helped me change into someone different from the ignorant and unaware 12-year-old I was when I originally came to TSC.
Around 6 months ago, I got promoted on the site as a Trusted User. (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4465.0) I made sure from then on just to move forward with helping CS become better. During that time, I cleaned up over 120 games (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg80320#msg80320), one of the biggest being the complete update to Sonic the Hedgehog (PS3/X360) (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/game/359). I've also added at least 7 games personally to the site, helped add some others, and helped with adding boxarts for games.
Not only have I done work in cleaning and adding games, but I've done a lot of work in translations for games. (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/forum/index.php?board=46.0) As of this point in time, I have added 101 translations to the forums, of which about 63 were approved and added to the site (Many of the ones in waiting are languages like Korean, Chinese, and Russian, which we don't have people to approve for immediately on the site). I did so many translations I became a forum mod for the entire Game Translations topic.
As for proof on CS, I have gotten a "gold check." This means that I've gotten over 500 submissions proven (I currently have 565 total records proven). 149 of those were video proofs, the rest photographic. I'm currently 36th in the overall proof board (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/scoreboard.php?board=5) and 14th in the video proof board (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/scoreboard.php?board=6&platform_id=0&continent=0&country=0&offset=0).
Recently, from a decision by the staff at Cyberscore, I have become a moderator on the main site. (http://www.cyberscore.me.uk/team.php) They stated that I have done more than enough to earn the position and their trust, even at my young age. I have only been working as a mod for a short time (since December 21st), but I've been approving other's proof and investigating records already for the entire time I've been a mod.
The most important thing is that I want to apologize to everyone for my actions I did back in mid-2013. I deliberately lied about some stats twice without thinking of the implications. I especially want to apologize to Parax. He was the one who started to teach me about S06, the one who unbanned me the first time, and the one who I looked up to when I was 12.
With my actions within the past year and a half known, and to all that have actually seen me change over time, I'm going to ask for a complete review of my past actions, and mainly an unban. All I've stated and linked above I hope shows that I'm a changed man from who I was 1 1/2 years ago, who can compete and fully understand the site and what it stands for.