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Sonic Central => Leaderboard Disputes => Topic started by: Parax on November 18, 2013, 04:21:56 pm

Title: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Parax on November 18, 2013, 04:21:56 pm
We need to see proof of the following Sonic Rush Adventure times:

- Plant Kingdom 1 (Sonic) - 1:00:07 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/plant_kingdom_1/sonic)
- Plant Kingdom 2 (Sonic) - 0:55:09 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/plant_kingdom_2/sonic)
- Machine Labyrinth 1 (Sonic) - 0:52:12 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/machine_labyrinth_1/sonic)
- Haunted Ship 1 (Sonic) - 0:57:24 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/haunted_ship_1/sonic)
- Red Emerald (Sonic) - 0:45:12 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/red_emerald/sonic)
- Blue Emerald (Sonic) - 0:54:25 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/blue_emerald/sonic)
- Green Emerald (Sonic) - 0:25:13 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/green_emerald/sonic)
- White Emerald (Sonic) - 0:31:25 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/white_emerald/sonic)
- Light Blue Emerald (Sonic) - 0:33:28 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/light_blue_emerald/sonic)
- Purple Emerald (Sonic) - 0:38:46 (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/dwhitethegamer/sonic_rush_adventure/times/purple_emerald/sonic)
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 20, 2013, 01:09:17 pm
As I said to flying fox I'll send the proof as soon as the end of this year.
Remain calm as I get the proof on you tube.

dwhitethegamer
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Parax on November 20, 2013, 01:54:28 pm
End of the year won't cut it. We're going to need to see some proof within the next couple days if you want these times to stay up.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 20, 2013, 02:31:47 pm
Hmph.  Fine then, I'll get them by the end of this month, no more, no less.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Parax on November 20, 2013, 03:57:51 pm
Not the end of the year, not the end of the month, you've got a couple days. Unless you can provide a compelling reason as to why I should give you an extension.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 20, 2013, 04:24:39 pm
A REASON?!  You DO understand that I can be the ultimate gamer and that it WILL take some time to show you the proof, don't you?  All I need to do is clear the data then show the races on a Let's Play, which, again, will take time. 
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Parax on November 20, 2013, 04:32:48 pm
What I understand is that you've submitted a number of stats that got flagged by our BS detector and are significantly faster than the records, plus you're an unknown player with zero proof who isn't providing an adequate explanation for why they can't provide proof. I also understand that leaving times that have a high likelihood of being false on the charts undermines their integrity as a competitive platform. So, no, I don't particularly care that you're "the ultimate gamer". You're being held to the same standards of proof as anyone else.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Thorn on November 20, 2013, 04:58:26 pm
The records that aren't emerald races had to be done in Time Attack mode per the competition rules. All you'd need to do is take a picture of the Time Attack mode screen for those. That does not "take some time".
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 21, 2013, 11:01:46 am
Very well.  I understand where this is going.  I'll delete my times, then before I do a Let's Play on SRA, I'll upload a video showing my time attacks.  Then I'll try to beat those times.  After that, during the LP, I'll max out the Wave Cyclone and show proof of my times in the emerald races.  This is the LAST offer I'm giving you guys.  If you have any compromises, I'll consider it, just give me a GOOD reason for it.

I'll delete my times as soon as I get this message up.

OK.  For some I deleted my times, yet they're still up.  WHY?!

"For some reason".  Why did I not put "reason" on my last post?!

Removed quadruple post. Use the edit button. -Parax
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Thorn on November 21, 2013, 01:42:40 pm
If you have any compromises, I'll consider it, just give me a GOOD reason for it.

Sure, I'll give you a reason. We know for a fact that you did not get some of those times, and we have indisputable proof that doesn't depend on knowing you or how you play. While our BS detector doesn't catch 100% of lies, typos, and general idiocy, anything it does catch is a guaranteed false submission (and I say this knowing exactly how it works). Maybe you made typos, maybe you just guessed at it (e.g., "Well, Plant Kingdom 1 for Sonic was about a minute, so I'll just put in a number around a minute..." ), maybe you're just lying... we don't know what the exact issue is, but we know that some of your times are false. Therefore, we're calling you on the ones that we know are false and also checking with a few that have us simply suspicious.

Satisfied? I eagerly await your response. At the very least, you could tell us something like, "I look at the Time Attack records screen and I know that times X, Y, and Z are correct."
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 22, 2013, 10:59:11 am
You better hope I did something wrong, but I had to literally break the stages in order to set my records.  I can't do that anymore because I don't know how I did it.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Parax on November 22, 2013, 12:15:38 pm
Ok, I'm done. I've literally banned you/nuked your stats. I know how I did it though.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 25, 2013, 11:02:41 am
hmph.  I understand.  Btw,  I would like to post a review of this site.  I've been taking notes of this place and my final thoughts of this site shall be distributed with your permission.  This is all before you banned me, however.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on November 25, 2013, 11:17:14 am
I await you response.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on December 09, 2013, 10:52:35 am
I'M WAAIIIITTTTTIIIINNG!
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2013, 02:23:58 pm
As I said to nobody I'll send the response as soon as the end of this year.
Remain calm as I get the response on the fo rum.

thorn



You spend a week covering up a lie to us admins, then think that we should grace you with a response? I hope you step on a Lego barefoot.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: dwhitethegamer on December 11, 2013, 10:33:59 am
Already did that when I was a little child.  Surprising part: I didn't cry.

EDIT: I had no idea about this BS-detector, or whatever it is.
Title: Re: ATTN: dwhitethegamer
Post by: Thorn on December 11, 2013, 01:12:16 pm
^ Response to EDIT: Well, that's the problem! What should trouble you is that you lied, not that you were surprised by us having a method to catch your lies.

I'm going to lock this topic now, as its original purpose is long since gone. If there's any pressing issues, you can send me a PM, but I feel that you're going to keep making a public spectacle of yourself if I allow further conversation in this topic.