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Title: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 13, 2005, 09:22:22 am
I decided to take the hassle out of it for everyone concerned.

Starting tomorrow, and for every day until TSC's 2nd birthday on October 23, myself and my partner in crime, RPGnutter, will be releasing one of the top ten players per day, until we reach #1 on the 23rd. Along with that will be a short bio of the player's history at TSC, such as what they brought to the site by way of competition, and how successful they've been to date.

Don't like it? Well, G-rated off. (You'll get this one if you've been in the chatroom recently.)

Speculation and such can go in here as well. But for now, RPG and I are the only two that know the list. All will be revealed!
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 13, 2005, 09:24:18 am
:o

*speculates*
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 13, 2005, 10:07:11 am
Speculate all you like, G-rated fool!

Thou shalt nevar guess teh top ten 1337 playors!

Enough of that methinks, I'll be opening this tomorrow with [X's] Bio, until later G-rated's.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 13, 2005, 10:10:21 am
start today and give me info you you! :(
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 13, 2005, 10:10:49 am
Only thing I'll be stealing is your favourite phrase.

ROCK 'N' ROLL!!

Until next time...
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 13, 2005, 04:26:33 pm
GOD DAMN YOU!

Die.

Now.

The Tails Doll is watching you.

The Tails Doll is alwayswatching you.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 13, 2005, 05:10:58 pm
chill dudes >_>

RPG needs anger management, and the rest of you need to stop stealing his phrases :(

Taco has spoken!
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 13, 2005, 05:25:49 pm
Taco is right, I do need anger management D:

STOP EDITING MY GAWD DAMN POSTS MIKEY! *ignites topic*
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 13, 2005, 05:57:21 pm
Wow... every post except for the first two was totally offtopic...
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 13, 2005, 07:55:01 pm
Mike has to be the #1 player...

He holds more championships than anyone else, I think Sprint is the next closest. >_>

I'm sure the list will probably include (in no particular order): mike, Sprint, RPG, Ninty, SS101, Soniham, Cybrax maybe, Andy possibly, and iono.

I certainly wouldn't put myself in the top... I only own 1 zone, and am only good at a few more :/
</speculation>
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 13, 2005, 11:24:42 pm
*orgasms*
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 14, 2005, 02:51:02 am
Stop editing my posts Taco! D: You G-rated G-ratedtard you.

And to bring a start to the actual focus of the topic, here's the #10 Player!

TSC'S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #10

JASON "RAYKU" WHITE

Rayku's Rankings

Sonic Heroes

1928 Points
11th Place out of 89 Players

Sonic Adventure (DX)

1905 Points
43rd Place out 65 Players

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)

407 Points
2nd Place out of 93 Players

Sonic 2

773 Points
46th Place out of 71 Players

Rayku’s ‘Best’ 5 Records

5th:Sonic Heroes-Lost Jungle-Dark-2:55:61
4th:Sonic Heroes-Seaside Hill-Dark-2:30:36
3rd:Sonic Heroes-Egg Hawk-Dark-0:06:96
2nd:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Radical Highway-Mission 1-1:48:62
1st:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Final Chase-Mission 5-2:59:39

Rayku’s TSC Career

Rayku joined TSC on the 14th March 2004, so as far as most people are concerned, he’s a long time member and a great player to boot, although only latter quality afforded him this place in the Top 10, after much deliberation between Rayku and several other players that didn’t quite make it. In fact, Rayku, was only _just_ beaten by the Number #9 player, who will be revealed tomorrow,

When Rayku joined, he only submitted times for Sonic Adventure 2 (B), and even at that point, it was clear to see that he would eventually become very highly ranked at that game. Of his original set of times, most of, if not all of them were in the Orange bracket, if not almost certainly in the Red Bracket. It was at this point in time, when he passed SM in the rankings and moved up into, I believe, 5th place, that many of TSC’s members saw the potential in him, I myself, who was at the time sitting quite comfortably in 3rd place, a considerable distance behind supersonic101, who obviously, at the time was 2nd, realized he would eventually overtake me in the rankings, and he did just that.

We first saw what Rayku was truly capable of when he took a sweep of Radical Highway with relative ease, a sweep which he still holds today in fact, despite the fact that his times were beaten from time to time, he always fought back and reclaimed the records for each of the 4 Mission’s for Radical Highway, a sweep which he has now held for almost a year, (It will be a year on the 1st November).

The next time we saw Rayku’s pwnage skills in SA2:B, was with Final Chase, were he comfortably took a sweep there, but not without a little competition from myself back when he originally got the records, and still holds that sweep too, with little challenge to take it away from him.

I seem to recall a time where Rayku actually had the record for ALL of Shadow’s Missions throughout the SA2:B Chart, and while this may not be exactly true, he did have most of them, even if his times have been beaten over the time since he set them.

Rayku then, as predicted by myself and many others, begin slowly rising through the ranks, passing me up into 4th, Kev had by this point knocked me out of my cosy Top 3 spot, before passing Kev and making it into the Top 3. By this point Rayku had begun taking records left, right and ‘soniccenter’, easily passing Kev and earning his place in “The 1337est’s Circle”, The SA2:B Top 3. By taking even more and more records, and by getting almost all of the rest of his times into the Top 6 or 7, he passed SS101 and found himself sitting some 100 Points back from Cybrax. So, did Rayku give up? Did he decide he was happy with his 2nd place and stop playing? Nope, he did quite the opposite in fact, he played like there was no tomorrow, attacking Cybrax’s times in order to raise Cybrax’s Point Total and lower his own and thus close down the gap much quicker, and on the 26th of November 2004, Rayku found himself Champion of SA2:B, almost certainly the most prized Championship on the site, and almost certainly the most difficult to take, owing to the very skilled and high-up players such as SS101 and Cybrax.

Rayku even earned himself a “Congratulations” Topic from no less than SS101 for this amazing feat, bearing the message “Congratulations Rayku for pwning every SA2 Player in the World’s Ass off.” And damn straight he did.

Rayku retained his title for a considerable amount of time, 7 and a half months in fact (Although 3 of those can hardly be considered as TSC was down and for that time), until finally on the 21st July he was ousted out of 1st Place by none other than SS101, who still could not pull away a great deal, truly showing Rayku’s complete domination.

Yet while this was going on, Rayku competed in 3 other games, mostly Sonic Heroes. Rayku didn’t really pwn at Heroes Levels like he did with SA2:B, Although he did smash 3 levels wide open, the rest of his times merely being somewhat standard. He only ever submitted two times for the Extra Bracket too, which is now doubt highly influential towards his 11th Place Overall Ranking. However, Rayku truly pwned at the Bosses of Heroes, taking a good deal of the Records and quite a few of the Totals to boot! Surely if he had TAed the Extra Missions he would’ve ended up in the Top 6, for sure. With regards to that, his SA:DX and Sonic 2 rankings look very poor compared to his other 2 rankings….but not so much when you consider that he only ever submitted FOUR times for DX and only ONE for Sonic 2, that makes his rankings, roughly 2/3rd’s up, seem quite impressive.

Having said this, Rayku retired from Time Attacking this year, he returned after TSC’s downtime to update all of his times that were lost, and took a single record (Hidden Base Mission 1) before hanging up his Controller. Rayku’s times to this day remain a milestone for people to aim it. Rayku has proved his insane abilities and truly ‘1337’ skills with his dominance of SA2:B, and even to this day, while not competing remains in a very close second, close by the SA2:B’s Rankings at least, and its these abilities and his utter pwnage that earned him the Number #10 Spot in TSC’s Greatest Players of all time.

Until Sunday, where I’ll be revealing Player #8, I’m handing the topic over to mike for Player #9, hope this keeps you on the edge of your seats with suspense.

~ARRPEEGEE
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 14, 2005, 04:38:56 am
Well, #9 is all in readiness, but it'll have to wait until tomorrow. Who will it be? Either wait and find out, bribe us, or speculate here! :o
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 14, 2005, 01:19:29 pm
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Who will it be? Either wait and find out, bribe us, or speculate here!

I want to know, but I can't bribe over the internet...hmm.

Speculate... um... me? I wish...

I'm using to many of... those.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 14, 2005, 05:55:39 pm
I don't think you've even been around long enough to be considered for this tails :(

/me bets it's cybrax in 9th (or soniham)
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 14, 2005, 05:57:35 pm
You've been here a month longer than I have -_-

And I don't even think I made it anyway.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 14, 2005, 06:04:50 pm
Well, erm no

well, yes...

er...

You probably mean you joined a month after I joined, but that doesn't really matter cuz I stuck around. You just came back to this site again after like, 10 years :O (more like .5, but whatever :P)

I kinda wish I played advance 2 while you were competiting though. It would of been fun :)
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 14, 2005, 06:33:24 pm
Yeah, my times would have been better... I can't get better than my old times and plus I don't have Amy so there really isn't any point in trying anymore...

I actually forgot about this site... I remember that the site was down or something and then I remembered recently about this site and decided to check it out, so I'm back.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 14, 2005, 10:10:10 pm
Did someone say BRIBE?? :D

For your generous donation of $0, you get one more piece of information. Here's #9:

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #9:

Cameron “sonicam” Jones:
“The new kid on the block.”

When Dan and I sat down to draft this list, we took two factors into account. Naturally, any player who made the top ten had to be dominant in some area. But secondly, they should be able to demonstrate a high level of skill in a large number of games (this cost Rayku dearly). Sonicam gets this position due to his incredible versatility over the high majority of TSC’s 23 games.

Sonicam is the most recent, of the players who have genuinely proved themselves, to join TSC. He joined on the 22nd of July 2004 and immediately made an impact in Sonic Battle. I know for sure that I, for one, predicted early on that sonicam would rise to the top and become one of TSC’s best. How right I was.

In Sonic Battle, sonicam quickly proved his worth, and from day one was a major player there. A three way battle between himself, sonichero and magnum12 ensued over the next six months, and over this time period all three held the championship aloft. We know for sure that sonicam’s time as champion was during the period which was lost due to the downtime, however. Sonicam set many of the standards for this game, and still has a few impressive records.

And yet, still two more achievements stand out above that one. In his quest to submit for every game on the site, sonicam turned his attention to the Game Gear games in the new year, in particular Sonic Triple Trouble. He proved, in taking the championship, then being beaten and returning to take every single record, that nothing was beyond him. Still one of the best displays of overall dominance on the site.

But the best example of sonicam’s pure determination as a gamer was yet to come. In August, sonicam began to try his hand at Sonic Adventure DX. He was truly up against it: many records in that game had held since the very beginning of TSC, so beating them would be something to behold. He didn’t let the pressure get to him, though, and after a two month long struggle, on the 4th of November sonicam attained his greatest honour at The Sonic Center to date: Champion of Sonic Adventure DX. He remained largely unchallenged for the better part of the remainder of 2004, until yours truly played, and pwned, SADX. A long, drawn out battle for the championship which lasted until July of this year followed. To his credit, every time I thought sonicam would give it away, he kept coming back for more. Eventually, RPGnutter came and took the championship, but it can take nothing away from the enormity of this show of perseverance and determination.

Sonicam recently retired from Sonic Adventure DX time attacking, albeit on a high as he leaves the game among the best to have ever played it.

In amongst these shows of brilliance, sonicam also achieved lesser-recognised goals in various other games, including 3rd place in Sonic Heroes, Champion of Sonic Pocket Adventure, and a top ten placing in the toughest of all competitions here at TSC, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. I do believe that, at a point in February, sonicam held as many as four championships at the same time (possibly five, but don’t quote me on that), and regardless of the competition, that is no mean feat. His all-round skill puts him among the very greatest to have picked up the controller here at TSC.

Well played, sonicam. Rest assured that to be picked out of almost 600 members to be placed in the top ten, is something to be very proud of.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Heroes:
722 points
3rd of 89

Sonic Adventure (DX)
209 points
2nd of 66

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
1722 points
9th of 93

Sonic Advance 2
1819 points
16th of 72

Sonic 1
481 points
28th of 74

Sonic 2
751 points
37th of 71

Sonic 3
696 points
21st of 57

Sonic & Knuckles
325 points
11th of 36

Sonic 3D Blast
158 points
4th of 18

Knuckles Chaotix
124 points
7th of 9

Sonic 1 (GG)
100 points
10th of 28

Sonic 2 (GG)
90 points
8th of 15

Sonic Chaos
139 points
5th of 16

Sonic Triple Trouble
0 points (that’s right, a 100% game!)
1st of 12

Sonic Pocket Adventure
26 points
1st of 10

Sonic Battle
81 points
3rd of 17

Sonic Drift
65 points
4th of 11

Sonic Drift 2
38 points
3rd of 9

Current Championships: 2 (SPA, STT)
2nd Place: 1 (SADX)
3rd Place: 3 (SH, SB, SD2)

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

5th: Chaos - Level 3 (SB) - 372067 - In a closely fought game, this record is 50K ahead of any other for this level. A very impressive record indeed.
4th: Diamond Dust 1 (S3D) - 1:51 - On a game in which records were so hard to come by, this time showed the current records were not unbeatable.

EDIT: Trust me to do something like this. Not 12 hours after I posted this, RPG beat it. D:

3rd: Just about any record on Sonic Triple Trouble - Kudos to sonicam for attaining 100% for this game. Very few have managed a 100% game, and even fewer still hold it today.
2nd: Shadow 2 (SA2B) - 0'17"05 - Using a revolutionary strat for its time, this time smashed the standing WR by ten seconds.
1st: Lava Reef 2 (S&K) - 3:16 - SM's 3:25 video looked impressive enough. I can't imagine how good this must have been.

Over to Dan again for tomorrow's #8 selection. Continue speculating and stuff, it's good for the forum. :o
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on October 14, 2005, 10:43:57 pm
Wow, I'd never thought I'd get a recognition like this. I'm honored, thanx guys. :D
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2005, 07:01:32 pm
TSC'S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #8

Mike "supersonic101" Erman


supersonic101's Rankings

Sonic Heroes

2936 Points
21st Place out of 89 Players

Sonic Adventure (DX)

1507 Points
27th Place out of 66 Players

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)

326 Points
1st Place out of 93 Players

Sonic Advance

856 Points
26th Place out of 40 Players

Sonic 1

614 Points
55th Place out of 74 Players

Sonic 2

730 Points
34th Place out of 71 Players

Sonic 1 (GG)

155 Points
23rd Place out of 28 Players

Sonic Chaos

235 Points
15th Place out of 16 Players

Sonic Drift

107 Points
5th Place out of 11 Players

supersonic101’s ‘Best’ 5 Records

5th:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Bosses-Shadow1-0:10:70
4th:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Security Hall-Mission 3-0:14:17
3rd:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Pyramid Cave-Mission 1-2:07:34
2nd:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Cannons Core-Mission 5-2:45:09
 1st:Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)-Freestyle-Crazy Gadget Mission 1-0:00:19

supersonic101’s TSC Career

Supersonic101 joined TSC on the 27th 2003, merely four days after TSC’s birth. And being Member #13, he’s been around since TSC’s dawn of time. Before we delve into SS’s Sonic career, we shall first look at how he actually started TAing, and some of the non-TA things he has benefited the site with, and its along with his pwnage skills that earned him the #8 spot, although, much like Rayku, it was VERY close between SS and the #7 Player!

SS’s TA roots begin, as with many other players with cybrax, from a tale SS told me not too long ago. The first time he saw cybrax ‘play’ SA2:B was his Radical Highway Mission 1 video, a 1:52:xx IIRC, and after watching it he just sat there for a whole 10 minutes thinking “:O”. Literally.
And then he vowed that one day he would be _that_ good at SA2:B, and wouldn’t you know it, he’s actually better at this point in time, but more on that in a short while.

Of the things SS has done for the site, the most notable being the enormous amount of video’s he has recently recorded and mailed to Shadow Wedge, which, in fact, should be up on the site in the near future. The other notable thing is that he recruited many respected and high quality players to TSC, such as myself, doctorbob26 etc.

And now we move onto SS’s actual TAing career, despite him competing in several games, he only really focused on 2 of them, and only put a great deal of effort into one of those: SA2:B, which ahs certainly paid off.

It was his recruiting of myself to this site, in fact, that nudged SS on his way to Goddom, as in signing me up and requesting me to post times for SA2:B, he unwittingly started TSC’s Longest Going Rivalry: RPG Vs SS in SA2:B. (Although as of late I have rather fallen behind in terms of pwnage).

When I signed up, SS was sitting a comfortable 3rd in the SA2:B Rankings, with SM and cybrax ahead of him (2nd and 1st respectively), and I fancied my chances of the Top 3 after I had submitted around 90% of my bracket. SS then fought back and retook 3rd, and then 2nd, passing SM, I followed suit.

As we both neared Cybrax in the Point Rankings, we undertook one of SA2:B’s Greatest Challenges: To be the first SA2:Bist to have an all Red/Orange Levels Table. Anyone who was around in the chatroom around then will remember this, we simply would not shut up about this. Coincidentally, we both managed this after some time, and plenty of pwnage later (Although as I recall, I managed it first with SS following on a day or two later, it may sound strange that cybrax was not the first to manage this, but in fact, he had one Yellow in a Mission 5 which I cannot recall for a _very_ long time.) Needless to say, my All Red/Orange glory did not last long, as Rayku knocked a few of my times back into the Yellow, while SS managed to maintain his for a good while. It was during this time that Rayku lay dormant, that I had the pleasure of a week off school, while maintaining perfect health (I was off due to a reason that I care not to explain), that myself and SS took it upon ourselves to topple cybrax. We succeeded somewhat: I took the championship FOR A WHOLE DAY, before cybrax pwned me and SS took the Championship for a while, on the 13th April ’04 for a day….before losing it again to cybrax, before taking it back again on the 16th June of the same year, where he held it for two months, before losing it once again.

SS lost interest in TAing after this, until some time during TSC’s downtime, where he picked his controller back up and TAed like there was no tomorrow, retaking the SA2:B Championship on the 21st of July of this year, which he still holds now.

Yet while this was happening, and during the lapse in his SA2:Bing, he TAed, among other games, Sonic Heroes. Mainly as Team Rose, which he had several records in at one point, and still retaining 5th with the Rose Total, he had potential to go far in the game, but, like many others, condemned Heroes as a poor excuse of a game and ceased TAing it, never finishing his bracket for it. As with the other games, he never finished the brackets, only a few times here and there, and not always good times either, which contributes somewhat to his otherwise somewhat low rankings elsewhere but SA2:B and Heroes.

All of the above has been major factors in working out this Top 10, _just_ nestling him in at #8, it was VERY close in fact between the bottom 4, middle 3 and Top 3, but not wanting to spoil anything, wait and see, the waits not that long now, but what set SS slightly above the rest was his “never-give-up” attitude to all things SA2:B, his utter pwnage and dominance across SA2B’s Levels, and all of the contributions he’s made to the site.

~ARRPEEGEE
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 16, 2005, 06:17:23 pm
Hey

>_>

hurry up
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 17, 2005, 02:02:08 am
Didn't you read the first post? ONE PER DAY.

And without further ado... here's #7!

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #7:

Kevin “shadowgamer196” Horn:
“The Top of the 3D Pops.”

Kev joins SS101 in being one of the founding members of the site, whose times were simply added when Rolken got around to it back in those days. He joined on the 28th of October 2003 when the site was well and truly in its infancy. He showed promise on SA2B, but it wasn’t until the release of Sonic Heroes that Kev came into his own.

Kev mainly stayed in the wilderness until January 2004, when Sonic Heroes was released, and then he flew out of the blocks, taking a high majority of the records and being very close in just about every other level. He said he would aim for 100%, but while that proved unrealistic, under the old percentage system Kev had a percentage as high as 96% at one stage! Now if that’s not domination, I don’t know what is.

What’s more, he did all this WITHOUT the use of the much-maligned Team Blast Glitch. In August of 2004, he received a strong challenge from segamaster, who had been using it, and he still fell short. More recently, just before the downtime, magnum12 finally wrested the championship from Kev’s hands, possibly the longest-held championship in the history of TSC.

Kev was certainly not afraid of taking on a challenge, and that he did by, after doing it all on Heroes, coming over to the most sought-after championship in Sonic Adventure 2 and showing his skill there as well. Kev’s highest rank in this most demanding of championships was a very credible 3rd place, and he had a slew of site records to boot. To date, he stands in 6th place, and given his records date back to December of 2004 that’s not a bad showing.

On the day that TSC disappeared for three months (which explains why nobody saw it), Kev officially retired from TSC to pursue interests in F-Zero and other games. Thankfully, more recently he saw the error of his ways and came back. So here's hoping we see more times from him in the near future.

His skills weren’t limited to the Gamecube, either. Kev took on the handheld challenges of Sonic Advance 2 and 3, currently standing 7th and 4th respectively. These achievements put Kev above the vast majority, and 7th in our view.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Heroes
457 points
2nd of 89

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
898 points
6th of 93

Sonic Advance 2
1264 points
7th of 72

Sonic Advance 3
169 points
4th of 38

Sonic 1
621 points
59th of 74

Sonic 2
654 points
21st of 71

Sonic 3
867 points
53rd of 57

Sonic Pocket Adventure
109 points
10th of 10

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

5th: Final Fortress Sonic (SH) – 4’32”14 – Still a record by a good half a minute. Set back in April ’04, mind.
4th: Ocean Base Boss (SA3) – 45”15 – Picked because it was completely out of the blue. The best SA3 players couldn’t come close to this… not saying Kev’s not one of the best, but yeah.
3rd: Big Foot (SA2B) – 20”42 – While not looking too impressive, when you consider the amount of people on 20”5x behind this time (myself included), there’s just a bit special about this time.
2nd: Lost Jungle Rose (SH) – 1’22”33 – There’s a bit of history behind me picking this one. Let’s just say I was up time attacking this level until 1am… and he beat my best with ease.
1st: Seaside Hill Sonic (SH) – 2’59”34 – The only time at The Sonic Center under three minutes for this level, one of the greatest barriers was broken with this run. Excellent.

Oh, and guess what? It's me tomorrow as well, so you've gotta put up with my format for another day!
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: shadowgamer196 on October 17, 2005, 05:28:43 am
wow thanx mike, that was some good stuff to read:) I'm still planning on getting back seriously >_> well I'm having  a week off school so I'll play sh or sa2b when i get home tonight.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 17, 2005, 10:36:18 am
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Oh, and guess what? It's me tomorrow as well, so you've gotta put up with my format for another day!
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You think you could get it up before I go to bed this time? I was all like "zomg where is mike i want my top 10 for the day D:"

*shot*

Also, wow. Wouldn't have expected that one. Well, I'm definitely not in the top 10 now. Too high for my lack of talent.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 17, 2005, 11:06:42 am
do you even have 5 records to fill in the top 5 records section SBW? :P

Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 17, 2005, 11:16:56 am
^^XD
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 17, 2005, 10:25:32 pm
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do you even have 5 records to fill in the top 5 records section SBW? :P
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Actually, I did before douglas came back :(

IP2 Sonic, Tails, Knux, Cream, EGR Cream.

5 records. >_>;

Of course, only one of those still stands. It was my first, but still. I've liek, mastered IP2 :(
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on October 17, 2005, 10:35:48 pm
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wow thanx mike, that was some good stuff to read:) I'm still planning on getting back seriously >_> well I'm having  a week off school so I'll play sh or sa2b when i get home tonight.
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Guess my Heroes career ends when you do just that. D: Perhaps I should quit while I'm ahead... :(
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 18, 2005, 02:00:30 am
Just a quick stop in here. I've not got much time. Here's #6:

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #6:

Daniel “RPGnutter” Siviter:
“The All-Rounder.”

Alright, now we’re genuinely reaching the business end of this list. The top six players should be fairly obvious to those who’ve been around for a while, and as my subject today mentioned, there’s a few very close, and surely controversial, calls. Remember, this is just our opinion, not reflective of everyone’s.

ARRPEEGEE, as he has come to be known, joined TSC way back in November 2003, at the request of SuperSonic101. Little did he know back then, the menace that he brought to the charts. RPG has been known to game relentlessly, homework and thumbs be damned, over entire days, often starting early and finishing late, and stopping only for food. Sounds a bit like me… But I digress. As a reward for such diligent gaming, RPG has held no less than EIGHT SEPARATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, and a high of four of those at once.

However, I don’t call him TSC’s Unluckiest Member for no reason. RPG will often find that a game that has been inactive for months is flooding with activity once he takes #1 spot on it. Often of my own doing, but others have been the guilty party too. But enough of that, let’s move on to actual gaming achievements.

When RPG joined (and most of you who read this will remember these days) there was a choice of just four games: the first two Advances, and the two Adventures. In the early days, he was just another player making up the numbers. Showed promise in SA2B, but not much else.

In about March of 2004, RPG began to take a greater interest in the community, and at the same time his time attacking potential began to be realised. (That’s right, REALISED. FUCK YOU MICROSOFT WORD!)

Okay, sorry for going off on a tangent there, but I’m typing these in advance and saving them in Word. Hate at its auto-correction system, especially when it doesn’t correct at all.

Now, where was I? Oh yeah, at that point RPG became one of the premier time attackers at the site. He set his sights on Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Advance 2 primarily, but in the meantime he took on other smaller challenges. In the months of March and April he obtained the Sonic R, Sonic Drift 2, Sonic Jam, Sonic Drift and Sonic Adventure 2 championships, only to lose them shortly after (in the case of SA2B, just one day passed and it was gone… and he hasn’t got it back since). In most cases, though, this was just because he was first with remotely good times as they were first added to the site.

However, RPG has traditionally been strongest (but, ironically, not champion of at this point in time) in Sonic Advance 2. However, while RPG chose to make this game his specialty… so did NintenDan. The two of them have waged one of the greatest rivalries this site has seen, since the 8th of September when RPG took this title for the first time. Since then the title has changed hands at least six times (seven when you count blueblaze’s entries, which were miles ahead of RPG and NintenDan and obviously false) and while, at the moment, RPG is not the champion, he is making another push towards it.

Like almost everyone else on this list, however, RPG is a very strong gamer in Sonic Adventure 2, and has taken the holy grail that is the championship for this game. For one day, mind, but I certainly can’t say I’ve been #1, so he’s doing something right. I mustn’t have been perusing the rankings as often as I do now, because to be honest I don’t remember RPG ever taking first place, though he was second for a while. Maybe I was away that day. At any rate, ever since he was knocked out of top spot he’s kept going, in another attempt to claim that most prestigious of championships. Currently he sits 4th, with cybrax a mere 60 points ahead. Chances are, barring an unexpected return from him, RPG will be 3rd before long. Which is incredibly impressive in itself.

And now we come to Sonic Adventure DX. Like myself, RPG had little interest in this game at first. And much like myself, RPG thrashed all comers in a sharp attack on the championship. He got it easily, including a Twinkle Circuit sweep. And with myself and sonicam retired from SADX, he’ll likely hold this one for some time. But then again…

More recently (perhaps to spite me, I don’t know), RPG attacked Sonic 3D and Sonic Drift consistently over a three-day period, which resulted in him gaining both those championships. Hey, any publicity is good publicity, right?

Since the inception of the site, RPG has submitted in 21 of the 23 games, and is a high performer in 7 or more of them (depends how you define high performer after that). For these efforts, RPG is more than deserving of the #6 rank in our Greatest TSCers of All Time.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Heroes
3084 points
22nd of 89

Sonic Adventure (DX)
138 points
1st of 66

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
639 points
4th of 93

Sonic Advance
206 points
4th of 40

Sonic Advance 2
184 points
2nd of 72

Sonic Advance 3
312 points
9th of 38

Sonic 1
244 points
10th of 74

Sonic 2
429 points
11th of 71

Sonic 3
814 points
33rd of 57

Sonic and Knuckles
389 points
30th of 36

Sonic CD
330 points
15th of 22

Sonic 3D Blast
34 points
1st of 18

Sonic 1 (GG)
59 points
5th of 28

Sonic 2 (GG)
118 points
12th of 15

Sonic Chaos
137 points
4th of 16

Sonic Triple Trouble
170 points
8th of 12

Sonic Pocket Adventure
108 points
8th of 10

Sonic Jam
11 points
2nd of 5

Sonic R
199 points
9th of 23

Sonic Drift
4 points
1st of 11

Sonic Drift 2
104 points
5th of 9

Best five times (I changed this a little – as I’m compiling this list with RPGnutter he gave me the times he wanted listed here. Here goes…) :

5th: Spring Yard Yellow (SD) – 0’59”48 – Cracked the minute barrier where nobody else was able to do so.
4th: Gene Gadget 2 (S3D) – 1:34 – A record by a whopping nine seconds, and this after we thought FoxLuc was close on invincible in this game.
3rd: Egg Frog – Sonic (SAdva2) – 0’12”78 – He just doesn’t stop bragging about this one. Probably his hardest-fought record.
2nd: Chaos 6 – Sonic (SADX) – 0’25”73 – 26”46 was presumed to be perfect here because of the two players on that time, and a third on 26”49. RPG smashed them all.
1st: Any and all Twinkle Circuits, but primarily Gamma (SADX) – These times are simply amazing. ‘Nuff said.

Anyone care to take guesses at the exact order of the rest of the list?
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on October 18, 2005, 02:12:34 am
Sadistic Mystic, Sprint God, Cybrax, Nintendan, Mike 89 in order from 5th to 1st.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 18, 2005, 07:26:28 am
cybrax, me, SM, sprint, mikey
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 18, 2005, 12:55:30 pm
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RPG has held no less than EIGHT SEPARATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, and a high of four of those at once.
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Just for the record, its 10. :P

And I only held four at once for the first time yesterday night, until then it was only three, and you need to fix my Drift 2 Total >_>
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 18, 2005, 08:30:38 pm
I was going to say, I think RPG took Drift 2 >_>;

Also, wow. I expected RPG to be higher :o

I'd probably guess now:
5. Cybrax
4. SM
3. Ninty
2. Sprint
1. Mike
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 19, 2005, 01:13:49 am
I wrote that the night before I posted it. At that time, he didn't have Drift 2. So hah. =P

On another note, anyone who's guessed is wrong.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing:

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Also, somebody ask me why I gave RPG my strat.

Why did you give RPG your strat? :o
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 19, 2005, 02:47:07 am
:O

Why did you give me your strat?

:O
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 19, 2005, 03:31:33 am
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RPG has held no less than EIGHT SEPARATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, and a high of four of those at once.
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Just for the record, its 10. :P
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Name all ten. I could only find eight.

Also I am disappointed in you for putting your college work ahead of the forum. WHAT'S GOTTEN INTO YOU, MAN? D:
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 19, 2005, 10:32:15 am
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:O

Why did you give me your strat?

:O
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You gave me yours?

* Spinballwizard run

You also claimed to suck at following strats...

But You shouldn't be concerned with IP2 now; douglas just ended your sweep of SC2 D:
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 19, 2005, 12:10:09 pm
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:O

Why did you give me your strat?

:O
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You gave me yours?

* Spinballwizard run

You also claimed to suck at following strats...

But You shouldn't be concerned with IP2 now; douglas just ended your sweep of SC2 D:
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...53:07?

Pfft.

Bullshit.

>_>

As for then ten:

Sonic Chaos
Sonic Drift
Sonic Drift 2
Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
Sonic Adventure (DX)
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic R
Sonic Jam
Sonic 3D Blast.

Ok, nine, close enough.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 19, 2005, 12:11:24 pm
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* Spinballwizard run

You also claimed to suck at following strats...

But You shouldn't be concerned with IP2 now; douglas just ended your sweep of SC2 D:
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Meh, excuse the double post:

I modified the start in order to cut a second, and threw in some extra Air Dashes.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 19, 2005, 06:26:19 pm
Meh, Triple Post D:

Much later than scheduled, but better late than never, right?

TSC'S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #5

DANIEL "NINTENDAN" ZURAD


NintenDan's Rankings

Sonic Heroes

2189 Points
14th out of 89 Players

Sonic Adventure (DX)

627 Points
8th Place out of 66 Players

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)

3078 Points
14th Place out of 93 Players

Sonic Advance 1
1 Point
1st Place out of 40 Players


Sonic Advance 2
108 Points
1st Place out of 72 Players

Sonic Advance 3

183 Points
5th Place out of 38 Players

Sonic 3

701 Points
21st Place out of 57 Players

Sonic and Knuckles

401 Points
35th Place out of 36 Players

Sonic 1 (GG)

55 Points
4th Place out of 28 Players

Sonic 2 (GG)

89 Points
7th out of 15 Players

Sonic Chaos

193 Points
10th Place out of 16 Players

NintenDan’s ‘Best’ 5 Records

5th: Sonic Adventure (DX)-IceCap-Tails-1:31:85
4th: Sonic Adventure (DX)-Lost World-Sonic-1:57:30
3rd: Sonic & Knuckles-Lava Reef 1-Knuckles-1:33
2nd: Pretty much any and all of "Taco's" Advance 2 times.
1st: Pretty much any and all of "Taco's" Advance 1 times.


NintenDan’s TSC Career

When "Taco" as he has been known ever since the birth of the chat room, IIRC, joined TSC on the 12th December he was, like myself, just another member filling up the ranks, and as mike said about me, has been a complete menace in various games: namely the Advance's, and, to a lesser extent Sonic Adventure DX.

Perhaps it would be a good place to start on SA2:B, as its possibly the most 'worthy' of games to be good at, and by far one of the most difficult to do well in. Taco was up in the Top 10 for quite a while, but now has slipped back quite a few places, I recall him as high as 7th at one point. His times aren't bad, but they COULD use significant improvement if Taco played anything Sonic-based that wasn't on a GBA (If your reading this Taco that was in no way a hint >_>).

Moving on, we come to the subject of Advance 1. Taco's been CHampion of this game since forever. If you consider forever to be The 1st March 2004, and it is somewhat of forever in TSC Time :o He's held the championship ever since, excluding one day: The day TSC came back up, as mike submitted all his new times before Taco, a fair few of which that beat Taco's VERY old times and knocked him off the top spot, so that hardly counts. Taco's also had the ABSOLUTE PWN to hold 100% on the game for various periods of time during the course of his TWENTY MONTH CHAMPIONSHIP, TSC's longest as far as I know. Infact, the only reason he doesn't have 100% now is because of the Moon Zone, and all the chat regular's know mike's opinion on that one :P Bizzarely, until mike's complete overhaul of his Advance 1 times, Taco was somewhat unchallenged and he immensely outclassed all competition, its an absolute wonder he was able to keep on playing to best himself: His ultimate goal as he said on numerous occasions, was a sub 60 minutes Total, and blood Hell if he could find another 4 seconds in Total across the various levels he'd have sub 58 minutes. And as far as I know, he's beating the Hell out of the Japanese Players to boot, or he was at one stage, no idea if he still is, now if that doesn't shout out "I am the God of Sonic Advance 1" then I really dont know what does.

Taco has been just as strong throughout Advance 2, initially taking the Championship after posting good (back then :P) times for all the levels and mediocre (Sorry Taco, but they really were D:) time for the Bosses, which netted him first place on the 3rd of August '04. This didn't last long, I eventually filled out my times for EU1, and alreadyhad filled out Boss some time ago, and this added my Total times and pushed me some 200 points ahead of Taco on the 8th of September of the same year. This sparked off another of TSC's long-going Rivalry's, and is still going on, (although I have an announcement to make at the end of this post.) Not amused by this, and being Taco, he began TAing the Bosses and slowly knocking down the points, until he retook the Championship on thw 10th of October. He sat there comfortably for a little over a month, till I fought back again, and stole it back from him on the 23rd November. My reign of terror then lasted a good 7 months, counting the 3 months downtime, until Taco pwned all and retook the Championship on the 13th July of this year, which lasted some 4 days till I took it back. The Championship switched hands for the final time (As of this point in time) on the 5th of August, whereby taco steadily decreased his Point Total to sub 100, and by far and wide, it still should be (See announcement). He's remained at the top of this game mostly unchallnged, rather like in Advance 1, save for my futile efforts, which have ultimatly phailed/10 in any case, further proving Taco's Goddom, which now surely stretches over the whole Advance Series. And if THAT doesn't make him "The Advance God" then this next section surely will.

Taco also reigned supreme at Advance 3 for a while too, pwning most of the records set at that time and ultimatly being #1 across all the Advance's at once, I believe. Although, obviously, he's no longer Top Dog in Advance 3, its mostly because he, like many others, dont give two cents about it (sorry mike :P) and he's been concentrating on various other games more worthy of his time, however, he WAS the first person (IIRC) to get an absolutely AMAZING time in Chaos Angel 3, watch the video to see exactly HOW amazing.

In later times, Taco has been setting some sensational records as Sonic throughout SADX, and not to mention some pwnerific times as Tails, although, sadly, (<_<) the Knux Level Total which he had held for so long was beaten by none other than myself (>_> Sorry taco D: *run*). I also seem to recall a time when Taco was Champion of Sonic 1 (GG), I apologise for my uncertainty on this one, but I have 40 minutes to type this or it will be released on #4's day, I am VERY behind schedule D:

Couple this, with his above average rankings in all of the other games he competes in, with the exception of Sonic & Knuckles, but who can really criticise him there? He has two times submitted. One is 3rd and the other is a record by a LOOOOONG way, and the sheer amount of contribution's hes made to the site: An insane amount of video's, a far few strats, and add to that his constant livening up of the chat whenever things die down in there, and his notion of "The TSC Convention", we have one ice cool, sharp as nails Time Attacker, just nestling in the Top 5 Greatest Players in TSC's History!

(Dont worry Taco, I'll have something to say about that next time we do this :O)

ANNOUNCEMENT: Bit of a random thing, but I feel I must get this off my chest as it is highly depressing: If douglas is indeed getting thos times legitimatly and not pulling them out of his ass, if he takes 2nd Place Overall in Advance 2, I will be retiring from competing in Advance 2 (Yes, for real this time.). I worked so hard for those times, I'm barely content to have 2nd, and I'm practically at my limit, so if I were to drop a place lower I dont think I'd have the motives or the drive to go earn it back.

I'll be doing #4 tomorrow and #3 the day after, then handing it back to mike for the final two.

~ARRPEEGEE

Rock 'N' Roll
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 19, 2005, 06:40:52 pm
looks like I underestimated teh cybrax >_>

Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on October 19, 2005, 07:10:46 pm
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In later times, Taco has been setting some sensational records as Sonic throughout SADX, and not to mention some pwnerific times as Tails,
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OMGF, and not only Taco too! >:o

I SHALL GET REVENGE! next summer when i wont have homework

EDIT: lol what a great idea I had to resubmit my Casinopolis Sonic time that was lost because of the backup. After all, it's just a 19 seconds difference from my other time. =P
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 20, 2005, 01:58:40 am
And it beats my time to boot. D:

RPG, you forgot to mention NintenDan's long-running battle with my brother in an attempt to retain 100% =P

And now to wait for your next two offerings while I take a break.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 20, 2005, 05:05:32 am
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RPG, you forgot to mention NintenDan's long-running battle with my brother in an attempt to retain 100% =P
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That hardly counts.

and mike doesn't have a break, onos, because I have a shitload of work to do, so he's doing #4 for me :O
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 20, 2005, 05:47:26 am
Yeah, RPG got lazy and I stole #4 from him. Here goes nothing:

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #4:

Rusty “SadisticMystic” Jones:
“Hey, maybe his post count really does match his IQ!”

(If you don't recognise this reference, you deserve to be shot. Click here to avoid a shooting. (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=507))

There is just no adequate way to describe SM. RPG chose to put it in one word: “God.” (That’s why he’s not writing this anymore. =P) I’ll try and find a few more words for this most enigmatic of players.

SM’s been around since the very beginning. In fact, he started the predecessor to TSC, the SA Elite, which inspired Rolken to create one site where we could all gather and compete, and this is why you care today. He’s also done a bit of admin work for the site while Rolken was sick/inactive (which is almost all the time these days).

Onto gaming achievements, even well before the time of TSC, SM was well known as one of the greats to have ever picked up the DC controller. The amount he knew, even back then, about the Sonic Adventure games is just mind-blowing. He used to come up with all sorts of unusual challenges for the soon-to-be TSC regulars to undertake. And yet, he found the time to uncover some of the oddest glitches in the game, and manipulate them for time purposes.

The two major examples are the famous Eternal Engine 2’39”42, and the even more famous Cannon’s Core 0’06”90. Both involved many things the average player wouldn’t even bother looking for, let alone exploring in the depth that SM did.

Above all that, SM just plain owned at the hunting levels of SA2B. I bet you could name any one of the hunting levels and SM would give you all 60 emerald shard locations, as well as the first clue the hint computers give you with regards to its location. However, as he put much less effort into the Sonic/Shadow levels, he was never #1 at the game. Many players rank him as the best merely due to his incredible wealth of knowledge on the game. That wasn’t in our considerations, however.

It’s worth noting that SM was also a top-level gamer in other games, too. The video section is packed with SM’s shows of brilliance in Sonic 1/2/3/K. He probably held all four championships at once back in the early days, but don’t quote me on that – he may not have held Sonic 1. I do know, however, that SM did hold five championships at the same time: Sonic 2/3/K, Sonic Advance 2, Sonic CD. That’s one incredible achievement. Even for someone who knows too much.

To date, SM doesn’t hold a championship at TSC, but he’s still one of the best here. RPG and I agree there’re only three better.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Adventure (DX)
762 points
10th of 66

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
1312 points
8th of 93

Sonic Advance
866 points
30th of 40

Sonic Advance 2
1622 points
14th of 72

Sonic 1
146 points
7th of 75

Sonic 2
202 points
2nd of 72

Sonic 3
317 points
5th of 57

Sonic and Knuckles
75 points
2nd of 36

Sonic CD
92 points
3rd of 22

Sonic 3D Blast
378 points
11th of 18

Knuckles Chaotix
21 points
2nd of 9

Sonic R
355 points
24th of 24

Best five times (as adjudged by myself):

5th: Mad Space 1 (SA2B) – 9”75 – Absolute perseverance. I can’t put it any other way. And this on a level the average gamer hates to bits. Oh, the irony.
4th: Carnival Night 2 (S3) – Sonic – 2:27 – Another example of perseverance – this one apparently took three hours of consecutive play and hours beforehand of meticulous planning. I don’t know how he does it.
3rd: Eternal Engine 1 (SA2B) – 2’39”42 – Possibly the most impressive video on this site. You haven’t seen the true extent of SM’s ability until you’ve seen this.
2nd: Route 280 2 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 0”00 – That is not a typo! Exactly zero time for this! Manipulating save files to the max. Or perhaps not the max, because of…
1st: Cannon’s Core 1 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 6”90 – SM’s best time simply because of all the glitches and work behind it. Manipulating two completely different levels and the Chao save file is just incredible.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 20, 2005, 09:36:58 am
I indeed never held S1--ybbun was already a member by the time I put up anything serious there.

I did briefly hold SA2 by being the first to submit to the newly created kart and boss charts (back when they still counted), but that falls under the same class as NintenDan's losing Advance 1--"doesn't really count".
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 20, 2005, 03:18:57 pm
Congrats SadisticMystic!!!
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on October 20, 2005, 07:44:19 pm
SM also held the Knuckles Chaotix championship IIRC.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 21, 2005, 12:10:15 am
yes he did

he had 100% on it I'm sure, as well as 100% sonic cd.

Sprint took CD, but I thought SM still had chaotix...

oh well, maybe I should read the updates every now and then >_>
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 21, 2005, 12:39:49 am
I put up the charts for Chaotix, so I obviously held all those records from the start.  It's an obscure game that no one ever played, so I remained on top, mostly with a sweep, for a very long time.  Then three months ago mike89 got bored and wanted something to play, so I suggested Chaotix.  So he played that game, I lost my last championship, and I didn't care.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 21, 2005, 12:43:23 am
Nicely said >_>

Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 21, 2005, 08:49:02 pm
Perhaps SM could also be described as "_"

Wonder why he hasn't used that nick in a while...
>_>
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 21, 2005, 08:57:35 pm
XD.

Also, better late than never, #3 up soon!

EDIT: True to my word, here we are:

TSC'S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #3

MICHAEL "MIKE89" MCKENZIE


mike89's Rankings

Sonic Heroes

1408 Points
8th out of 89 Players

Sonic Adventure (DX)

261 Points
3rd Place out of 66 Players

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)

817 Points
5th Place out of 93 Players

Sonic Advance 1
66 Points
2nd Place out of 40 Players

Sonic Advance 3

49 Points
1st Place out of 38 Players

Sonic 1

96 points
5th out of 75 Players

Sonic 2

14 Points
1st Place out of 72 Players


Sonic 3

93 Points
1st Place out of 57 Players

Sonic and Knuckles

32 Points
1st Place out of 36 Players


Sonic 3D Blast

198 Points
6th Place out of 18 Players

Knuckles Chaotix

17 points
1st Place out of 9 Players

Sonic 1 (GG)

12 Points
2nd Place out of 28 Players

Sonic 2 (GG)

13 Points
2nd out of 15 Players

Sonic Chaos

0 Points
1st Place out of 16 Players


Sonic Triple Trouble

29 Points
2nd Place out of 12 Players

Sonic Pocket Adventure

68 Points
4th Place out of 10

Sonic R

75 Points
3rd Place out of 24 Players

Sonic Drift

59 points
3rd Place out of 11 Players

Sonic Drift 2

30 Points
2nd Place out of 9 Players

mike89’s ‘Best’ 5 Records

5th: Sonic and Knuckles-Hidden Palace-Knuckles- 0:08 (edited by mike cause this time pwns and my Chaos ones don't)
4th: Sonic Adventure 2 (B)-Races-Expert Race- 2:39:26
3rd: Sonic3-Carnival Night1-Knuckles-  0:58
2nd: Sonic Adventure 2 (B)-Bosses-The Biolizard- 3:17:57
1st: Sonic2-Hill Top1-Knuckles- 0:39

(I apologise for the sheer immense poor quality in this Bio, I started writing this an hour into the day AFTER this Bio was meant to be out, that’s how pressed for time I’ve been lately, Sorry.)

mike89’s TSC Career

Mike signed up to TSC on the 26th of October, 3 days into TSC’s lifespan, and as member #11. Mike’s been here since the dawn on time. Literally, this time round :P

Mike’s competed in anything and everything, and excelled everywhere he’s put effort in, be it 2D or 3D. While SM is TSC’s God of Knowledge, mike is almost certainly TSC’s God of All Round Pwnage.

Before launching into mike’s career, of an unprecedented site record of 7 championships held at once: The only person to surpass SM’s 5, I shall take a brief look at the other things mike’s done for TSC:

He’s recruited several members, including his brother, the infamous “zac-a-maniac” but we wont go any further on that subject, and recently went on a recruiting drive across other sites, although I have no idea if he recruited anyone/how many people he recruited. Among other things, he’s posted a fair few strats, as well as shared them in the IRC chat room, not to mention a FREAKING HUGE AMOUNT OF VIDS. However, they aren’t all perfect quality (I highly recommend you _don’t_ watch Aquatic Ruin1-Knuckles if you value your eyes…(Sorry mike :P)), yet they are extremely helpful in terms of getting some damn pwnage times for yourself.

And now, finally onto mike’s actual career at TSC. He actually holds 6 Championships at present, as I stole his 7th the day my Bio was released (:D), however, he’s held championships in no less than 12 (?) games across the site. That’s just over HALF the damn site he’s pwned. Not at once mind but it’s the sheer scale that counts.

Mike has proven himself to be somewhat better in the 2D Field than the 3D. All of the championships he holds at Present, and in fact all of them bar one (SA:DX) have been in 2D games, making mike the 2nd best 2Der on the site. Yes, 2nd. See the next bio for more on that.
Mike’s effectively dominated the entire MD series, holding S2/3/K and sitting a comfortable 5th in Sonic 1, possibly the peak of perfection of Sonic Time Attacking. If only he had Top 2/3 for Sonic 3D too he would almost certainly be the ultimate “oldskool” Sonic TAer on the site. Mike has utterly dominated Sonic 2 and S&K, having immensely low Point Total’s in both, despite the amount of divisions and players competing, particularly in the former, where he has no times below 2nd as Knuckles and no times below 3rd as Sonic (Once HCC’s times are gone, that is). In fact, he would have an arbitrarily low Point Total in Sonic 3 as well, if Sprint had not pwned the first 5 levels so utterly, although, mike would not have the Championship if Sprint hadn’t got bored with the game. Furthermore to this, mike’s held ALL (IIRC) of the GG games, although he’s lost all those championships now bar Chaos, STT to sonicam and S1&2GG to Sprint, after he foolishly doubted Sprint’s 1337ness (Your own fault mikey :P). Don’t hold me to this, but I also seem to recall a time where he held Sonic Pocket Adventure, as well as holding Drift 2 as well as Drift 1 for a short while before I turned my attention to it.

And mike STILL doesn’t cease to amaze, almost rivaling Taco in Adv1 terms, a mere 60 something points behind, and not far behind Total Time wise either. Add to this his domination of Adv3, and that makes one HELL of a 2Der. But how does mike match up in 3D terms? In fact, almost as well.

Mike currently sits 5th in SA2:B, the Crown Jewel of TSC, yet he hasn’t ALWAYS been that pwn at it, in fact it was only during the downtime when he and I hoarded times that bumped our Totals down to their present levels, with mike smashing the 180 minute barrier, once believed to be the ultimate challenge that only the ‘truly 1337’ could accomplish. Yet with people now holding 155 minute Totals, perhaps reconsideration is required there.

Yet SA2:B is not mike’s finest 3D hour, neither is Heroes in fact, despite he sits a comfortable 8th, even though it’s a terrible game. Sonic R, where he sits 3rd is also not his finest 3D hour. It is in fact SA:DX, where he fought a grueling battle with sonicam for the Championship. The Championship changed hands several times, but in the end sonicam emerged victorious and mike settled for 2nd, later being reduced back to 3rd after I stole the Championship.

With all this said and done, it should be clear for all to see why mike is ranked this highly, his superior all round skill is second to none…well, two. With his many helpful additions to the site and his “never give up” attitude, there was really no question in where mike could possibly be ranked. Although there may perhaps be some controversy over the final two spots, it was a damn difficult decision but in the end we concluded the following:

2nd place is *shot*.

Just kidding, 2nd will be out today as this is late, and TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER is out tomorrow, both by mike, over to you dude~

~ARRPEEGEE

Rock 'N' Roll
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 21, 2005, 10:59:35 pm
14 championships, not 12. I also chucked my 8 second HP Knux into my top five... just cause I like it that much.

#2 is coming when the day switches over for the Americans (read: one hour). Not Rolken though, cause he's not here till after midnight anyway, if at all.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 21, 2005, 11:58:04 pm
*Americans in the Eastern Time Zone

Also, I must agree on the HP Knux; I'm yet to get better than 10 seconds D:
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Post by: yse on October 22, 2005, 12:02:06 am
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I know. That's practically all of you, bar Rolken. =P

And here's #2!

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #2:

Gavin “SprintGod” Ward:
“The Perfectionist.”

Sprint is a player very much unlike any other here at TSC. I know my philosophy to time attacking is something like “Post a full bracket of times, then work on the worst ones until you achieve #1.” Sprint goes the completely opposite way, in effect: “Play one level, and play it and play it until it’s perfect. Repeat for all levels in the game, then go back and beat them all for good measure.”

Sprint joined on the 17th of March 2004, so while he hasn’t been around here for as long as the founding members, he’s still been with us for a while. His first act was to post his Sonic CD times, which he’d been working on for a long time. Let’s put the magnitude of this into perspective.

Before Sprint joined, SM owned the Sonic CD charts with all but one record.

When he posted his times, Sprint became the new champion, leaving SM with just 3 of his 27 records. And all this without collaboration (from us, at least). That alone would’ve put Sprint in the top ten. But no, that wasn’t enough, no way.

The next game Sprint would turn his sights on was Sonic 3. He then proceeded to obliterate every single one of my times up to Marble Garden 1 (though the progress was very slow, and now nonexistent). Probably lucky he never finished his bracket here, as I would’ve lost my championship in a snap.

Probably his greatest achievement in Sonic 3, however, isn’t listed at TSC. He submitted this (http://bisqwit.iki.fi/nesvideos/movies.cgi?id=331) to Bisqwit’s site back in May, a GMV of Sonic 3 and Knuckles being completed as Sonic in a mere 45 minutes (closer to 36 minutes if you just count level times). The recording contained a massive 160000 re-records! Another example of Sprint’s immense patience.

Back in July, I challenged Sprint to beat my Sonic 1 and 2 times for Game Gear, as I held both championships at 1 point and 0 points respectively and felt reasonably confident of my times holding up. How wrong I was. With the aid of a few physics quirks, Sprint didn’t just tie, but BEAT almost every single one of them, smashing my old totals into the ground. And all in three days!

Notable of Sprint’s dominance is that he records just about every single time he sets. This obviously requires an even greater commitment in time, internet usage and whatever else. It also sends a message to any who would challenge him, saying that “I’ve got so much confidence that this time will stand, that I’ll even show you how to do it and I still think you’ll be unable to beat me!”

Typical of Sprint’s attitude to time attacking is the fact that EVERY SINGLE RECORD he has submitted to The Sonic Center is a first place time. (Actually, that’s not entirely true, but does anyone else believe a time of 42 seconds on Angel Island 1 Knuckles?) Why doesn’t he then get first by default, I hear you ask? Well, there’s a bit of history behind our #1 selection, you’ll see tomorrow, though the identity of our choice is probably blindingly obvious by now. In the meantime, congratulations to Sprint on making the #2 spot his own.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic 1
613 points
53rd of 75

Sonic 3
636 points
11th of 57

Sonic CD
0 points
1st of 22

Sonic 3D Blast
318 points
8th of 18

Sonic 1 (GG)
0 points
1st of 28

Sonic 2 (GG)
0 points
1st of 15

Sonic R
0 points
1st of 24

Sonic Drift
159 points
10th of 11

Best five times (as adjudged by myself):

Needless to say, these are damn hard to pick for Sprint. A lot of that has to do with the fact that I’ve never played Sonic CD, but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

5th: Green Hill Green (SD) – 54”20 – Devised a new strategy for time attacking this game that basically enables you to drive wherever you want at above “maximum” speed. The only problem then becomes dodging trees, which is surprisingly hard.
4th: Sky Base 2 (S1GG) – 0:12 – Using a method us lesser players never would have dreamed of, utterly destroyed the standing record of 23 seconds.
3rd: Angel Island 1 (S3) – Sonic – 0:46 – As a testament to just how good this time is, the emulated record is 43 seconds, and that’s with perfect stopping and spindashing. And there’s a lot of instances of that.
2nd: Any time for Sonic 1 or 2 GG – Just ‘cause.
1st: Any time for Sonic CD – Too much ownage for just one time.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 22, 2005, 12:04:20 am
lol

nice new sig SBW
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 23, 2005, 12:12:41 am
And now. The moment you've all been waiting for. Coinciding with TSC's 2nd birthday is the announcement of our greatest player to date...!

TSC’S ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER:

Shaun “Cybrax” Khoeis:
“Simply the best.”

This might seem like a bit of a controversial call to you lot. In fact, when RPG and I compared initial lists, I had Cybrax at #1, but RPG had him at #3 (with myself and Sprint at #2 and #1 respectively). Somehow I convinced him that my order was right (and I wish I could remember what I said on the matter!) and here we are. Here’s why I picked Cybrax as our greatest of all time.

Cybrax joined on the 24th of October as user #3 (and is one of the founding members, like many on our list). And ever since those early days, Cybrax was the benchmark. The standard for all players to aspire to, if you like. While his involvement with TSC dropped away to the point where he hadn’t been seen for months until just recently (later found to be yet another case of Warcraft-itis), perhaps without people realising he’s done more for time attacking than anybody else. I’d go so far as to say that without Cybrax we may not even have a site today.

Among Cybrax’ notable achievements outside actual time attacking are the immense amount of glitches he discovered on the 3D games, which has kept time attack going for two years where it could easily have become stagnant. After all, Sonic time attacking is just finding the route and executing, right? WRONG! It’s finding the glitches, then finding the route and executing, and Cybrax not only found the glitches but let other people know what they were and how to execute them, through either guides or videos. Unlike some people, he would always share what he knew.

Onto actual gaming achievements now, and Cybrax was, for the first year or so at least, considered TSC’s best gamer by far. Cybrax was one of the first to pick up Sonic Heroes, and like everyone else was horribly disappointed but still managed to set the benchmarks for that game to which the likes of Kev and magnum12 would follow. He still holds a record on the game, in fact, despite not having played since April of last year.

On Sonic Adventure DX, he was underrated due to F-Man’s efforts but once again, set many of the benchmarks for characters other than Sonic, not to mention the Twinkle Circuit races where I believe he held every single record for a long time.

And now for Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. The jewel in the crown, so to speak, at TSC, and Cybrax was king. This game alone is why Cybrax is the greatest here. Forget everything else – this is all that counts here. He came to The Sonic Center back in ’03 with a few truly great times (including one very special one – more on that later), but it was in April of 2004 when Cybrax put the pedal to the metal. He took #1 at that point, and then set off on two months of complete domination of the game, before being usurped by an equally determined SS101. He returned in August to dominate once more, and it was at this point that Cybrax attained his stature as the greatest. On the 3rd of August, he released a large queue of times that knocked a massive 80 points off his total, and left the game in absolute style. It was at this point that Rayku began to come into power, and in three months he would attain the title of champion, but Cybrax started it all.

On top of this, he started the push towards expanding into the older games, particularly in getting Sonic R and the GG games into the charts. Mind you, he wasn’t too bad at those either – putting most effort into Sonic 2 GG until FoxLuc, myself, and later Sprint took over.

For all this, there’s only one thing you should know~… Cybrax is unofficially TSC’s Greatest Player of All Time.

Time Attack Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Heroes
1052 points
5th of 89

Sonic Adventure (DX)
451 points
4th of 66

Sonic Adventure 2 (B)
559 points
3rd of 93

Sonic Advance 2
2505 points
48th of 72

Sonic 1
403 points
20th of 75

Sonic 2
668 points
22nd of 72

Sonic 3
864 points
42nd of 57

Sonic and Knuckles
409 points
28th of 36

Knuckles Chaotix
126 points
8th of 9

Sonic 1 (GG)
94 points
8th of 28

Sonic 2 (GG)
34 points
3rd of 15

Sonic Chaos
185 points
9th of 16

Sonic Triple Trouble
132 points
7th of 12

Sonic R
186 points
8th of 24

Sonic Drift 2
123 points
7th of 9

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

5th: BINGO Highway (SH) – Sonic – 3’56”43 – Only picked because it’s so old (set in April ’04), and because I wanted to use records from a few games.
4th: Speed Highway (SADX) – Sonic – 1’10”95 – This time just keeps on getting better and better…
3rd: Metal Harbor 1 (SA2B) – 1’16”84 – I was one of many who watched that 1’21”40 video of this level and wondered how on earth it could possibly be beaten. And still, Cybrax makes it look easy.
2nd: City Escape 1 (SA2B) – 1’53”70 – Go on. Try and beat this time. I dare you. While probably quite lucky (as the roads have an evil tendency to screw you over at just the worst time), to take first place on the first level of any game is always the hardest.

AND… *drumroll*

1st: Green Hill (SA2B) – 0’26”47 – This record stands alone as the single greatest ever set. Why, you ask? Because it’s by far the oldest – it is the only record, among TSC’s 23 games and some thousands of divisions, to have stood since the dawn of TSC Time, and a little before if I recall. Even two years on, it has been approached but never matched. Not to mention, the video accompanying it is one of the best examples of time attacking you will ever see.

To recap:

THE TOP TEN PLAYERS IN TSC'S HISTORY:

10. Rayku
9. sonicam
8. SuperSonic101
7. shadowgamer196
6. RPGnutter
5. NintenDan
4. SadisticMystic
3. mike89
2. SprintGod
1. Cybrax

Until next time, happy TAing and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TSC!!
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SprintGod on October 23, 2005, 12:42:55 am
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2nd: Any time for Sonic 1 or 2 GG – Just ‘cause.
Bridge Two! B-R-I-D-G-E~ T-W-O~!

*implode*
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Post by: F-Man on October 23, 2005, 01:59:30 am
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On Sonic Adventure DX, he was underrated due to F-Man’s efforts
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Hi mom. :) *waves to imaginary camera*

Aherm, I must say I was not expecting Cybrax to be first (probably becase he's been absent quite a few times), but I'm very glad for him. HooOoO0ray.
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Post by: Bilan on October 23, 2005, 05:38:38 am
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2nd: Any time for Sonic 1 or 2 GG – Just ‘cause.
Bridge Two! B-R-I-D-G-E~ T-W-O~!

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XD!
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Post by: F-Man on October 23, 2005, 06:50:36 am
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Bridge Two! B-R-I-D-G-E~ T-W-O~!

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XD!
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ROFLMAO, I thought it had been established a while ago that there'd be no ranking for that stage. =P
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Post by: Bilan on October 23, 2005, 06:53:34 am
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XD!
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ROFLMAO, I thought it had been established a while ago that there'd be no ranking for that stage. =P
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Its not a guaranteed 1:53 though D:

There are people in the rankings (God help them) that have 1:54 and above D:
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 23, 2005, 08:37:00 am
Congrats Cybrax! :)
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Marth on October 23, 2005, 06:29:43 pm
Congratulations to everyone who got into that list! :D

...

:)

sniff ...          WAHHHHHHHHHHH!

When will the next list be made? Is there one every year?
(I've got to submit a bit more than just the times for 2 games next year.
I'd better do scores and other missions/ games and stuff.
It would also help to do the Genesis games.)

(Ignore this next section. It's just a joke. Really.)

Maybe I should brag more!
(getting couple of 1st place records in SA, telling people about Tails in Casinopolis,
submitting a glitches guide with never before seen glitches... *head deflates*
uh... um... er... Aww, I lost my bragging mood!)
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 23, 2005, 07:00:00 pm
This is the first time mike's ever done it

You've done alot for sonic adventure, but that's not enough for top 10 :(

plus, you're still relatively new here, compared to how long some of the others have been here

I'd definetly say you're in the top 20 though.

Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 23, 2005, 09:05:31 pm
finally I can post!

even though I haven't done any records in a while, its nice to see this list.

So um...how come Fman didn't make it in?  anyway, Nintendan, are you planning on doing a speedrun of Sa2 and 3 for Speed demos archives?  I would appreciate it as thats the only way I'll be able to see the game played entirely.  Your Sa1 run was sweet and I know that was hard not messing up entirely throughtout that entire run.  

anyway, see you guys around.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on October 23, 2005, 10:16:07 pm
Hello SJ! Why couldn't you post?

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lol, because I just kinda stick to Sonic Adventure only. Not to mention I've lost my championship because a few people decided it'd be a good idea to get good times on other levels than Sonic's and Tails'. Does that really make them better? I don't know. :P
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on October 24, 2005, 12:01:58 am
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finally I can post!

You mean you couldn't before? :o

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Nintendan, are you planning on doing a speedrun of Sa2 and 3 for Speed demos archives?

lol

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Your Sa1 run was sweet and I know that was hard not messing up entirely throughtout that entire run.

Finaly...some recognition! :D

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anyway, see you guys around.

bye :(
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 24, 2005, 02:23:57 pm
thanks, at the old forums I couldn't log in even though I was logged in the main site and I haven't checked these gain till now.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Cybrax on October 24, 2005, 04:09:35 pm
Fman you can probably take first easy, you just need to do boss times.
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Post by: Bilan on October 24, 2005, 04:11:41 pm
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This is the first time mike's ever done it
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Excuse me, who did 40% of the word? >_>

Were also doing it every 6 months :O
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on October 24, 2005, 04:43:39 pm
OMG I can't wait till 6 months!... Wow, I am way too peppy. I am trying so hard to make the list now cause I'm a freak like that.
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Post by: Marth on October 24, 2005, 05:41:07 pm
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You've done alot for sonic adventure, but that's not enough for top 10 :(

plus, you're still relatively new here, compared to how long some of the others have been here

I'd definetly say you're in the top 20 though.
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1. Yeah, all I can brag about is SA stuff!
(Look at that section you were told to ignore in my last post.)
I'm doing more SA stuff that doesn't go in the times section,
and I'm also starting to play those Game Gear and Genesis games.

2. Hmm, that can't be too hard to fix.

3. Thank you! Thank you! thankyou[size=9]thankyouthankyou[/size][size=8]thankyouthankyou[/size]
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 26, 2005, 07:19:32 am
Bah, I knew I'd forget something.

I meant to do a few honourable mentions for people who we considered, but didn't quite make the top ten.

The first is F-Man, for pwning at SADX and S3D back when he cared.

More as I think of them.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 27, 2005, 12:51:14 am
would magnum get up there...or is he too new or something.  

also its nice to see these boards are active.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Rolken on October 31, 2005, 06:44:26 am
I have nothing to add except that this is a superb topic. :thumbsup:
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 31, 2005, 12:24:38 pm
:D
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on November 01, 2005, 12:50:46 am
XD.

I'll post my "honourable mentions" tonight as I had completely forgotten about them before.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on November 07, 2005, 04:10:07 am
Okay, suddenly that night became a week long.

Here they are for real!

F-Man: Always in our considerations for the top 10, F-Man misses out because he really only played one game, that being SADX. He was pretty good at Sonic 3D as well, but that's a crap game and therefore doesn't count.

(You got off easy... I could have called SADX crap. =D)

Marth: Again, really only active in SADX, and being a newcomer wasn't really ever in the top ten considerations. Maybe next year! Probably the next champion of SADX - watch this space!

Tails47 2: Once again, omitted due to lack of games competed in and the fact that he wasn't here for over a year. Added to this section, however, due to his recent pwning of none other than myself on Sonic and Knuckles. One day, however, I will get that back...

oldskoolgamer101: Yes, I'm referring to him here by his "real" name. =P

A top contender on SA2B for a while, until giving the game away to pursue other interests. Whether he really could have been #1 or not is anyone's guess, and we'll probably never know...

Spinballwizard: An up-and-comer with real potential. Competitive in SAdva2, and S&K - and when you look at those green times, consider that the people above him are probably the only people ever to have beaten his times. Cause we're just that pwn here at TSC.

There's probably a few others that I could have mentioned, but those are the major considerations, and would probably be #11-15 in no particular order.

I'll leave the topic open for further comment.
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Post by: Tails47 2 on November 07, 2005, 07:16:09 am
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One day, however, I will get that back

Nah, I doubt it. Sorry ;)

Edit: Duh almost forgot. Thanks for the reconition(sp?).
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Post by: Bilan on November 07, 2005, 12:15:42 pm
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He was pretty good at Sonic 3D as well, but that's a crap game and therefore doesn't count.

(You got off easy... I could have called SADX crap. =D)

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Shut up Shitwad, those games OWN.

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Not if I have a say in it.

>_>
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Post by: Marth on November 08, 2005, 06:28:37 pm
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He was pretty good at Sonic 3D as well, but that's a crap game and therefore doesn't count.

(You got off easy... I could have called SADX crap. =D)
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1. SADX is my favourite Sonic game, and also my favourite game of all.
S3DB wasn't as good as the main StH series, but it still wasn't bad.
I get kind of sad when I play PP2, because it's the only level of its type.
They should have made the whole game like that.

2. You don't have a say in it.
(Okay, maybe you do. We'll just have to find out.)
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Post by: sonicam on November 08, 2005, 06:46:14 pm
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He was pretty good at Sonic 3D as well, but that's a crap game and therefore doesn't count.

(You got off easy... I could have called SADX crap. =D)

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Shut up Shitwad, those games OWN.

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Not if I have a say in it.

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1. SADX isn't that bad. If it wasn't so frustrating and glitchy it'd be pretty good, but it is frustrating and glitchy so never mind... S3D is only an ok game. Also very frustrating and annoying. If the damn birds wanna jump into the lava and don't want me to save them so be it, save the birds that come so you, not that damn fat ass green bastards...

2. He doesn't have a say in it, you have a lot of potential in SADX, before RPG pwned me I thought you were going to pwn me championship. Especially your pwnage at Hot Shelter - Amy, my favorite level in the game, you've got a lot of respect from me. :o Good luck in SADX.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on November 08, 2005, 07:59:30 pm
SADX be the best game ever, yo.

Hey, it's even better than DK Country 2.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on November 08, 2005, 09:17:52 pm
No. :(
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on November 08, 2005, 10:08:45 pm
SA:DX is fun, but the uber frustrating camera and glitchyness sort of hampers the experience. IMO, the DK Country series is one of the most over-rated game series in recent history. To me, it just seemed like a solid platformer with really good graphics. The sheer number of secrets the series had was entertaining, but the games lacked the fast pacing and brutal intensity I've come to expect from 2d platformers such as the Castlevania series (Symphony of the Night and beyond), MMZ series (waiting for the MMX Collection), and Gunstar Super Heroes (high priority for me this holiday season). Back on topic, Marth will definately overtake the top 5 spots in SA at the very least.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Marth on November 09, 2005, 04:07:48 pm
I know SA's glitchyness and camera are bad, but they're nothing compared to SA2.
Maybe it's just because I'm not as familiar with it, but still, it's bad.
Switching between rails is just messed up, there's no Free Camera
(at least SADX had one most of the time), Sonic sometimes waits until it's too
late before responding to a press of the A button (on those bar things
that he swings around), and the B button is terrible.
(No, wait. The B button deserves its own complaint section.)

When I try to get a line of rings, Sonic just decides that he wants to do a somersault,
or even worse, a bounce attack that just happens to send him down into a pit.
When I try to do other moves near rings, it makes him go toward them.
The spindash is way too slow, and I don't know why SEGA would put in that somersault.
It's just a slower spindash. The spindash could have smashed boxes and
squeezed through small places if SEGA had just left the fun and realism in.
(influenced by Zelda games, maybe? THIS IS NOT A SLOW ADVENTURE GAME!)
Because Sonic loves the stupid somersault so much,
he does it when he should be playing the Mystic Melody.
Finally, he does the same stupid move while near items that can be lifted.


Getting back on topic...


Thanks, mike89, sonicam, and magnum12.


I've been playing Sonic Drift a bit, and I'm planning to try a bunch of other games later.
Also, I've been playing SA for rings, scores, and boss times. (I should also do Twinkle Circuit.)

too bad I have nothing to do with this speedrun video...
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on November 09, 2005, 05:04:39 pm
Bwahaha, glitches in SADX... I thought that was a silly bandwagon. :D

Seriously, except stuff like spindashing until you pass through walls (isn't that a cool thing?), I don't see any. The camera never caused me problem, in fact, I love it. Much more free than in other 3D Sonic games, even on Auto Camera.
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Post by: yse on November 10, 2005, 11:52:09 pm
I am pro this topic going to 100 posts.

If you disagree, post nine times in succession.
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Post by: Bilan on November 11, 2005, 12:05:53 pm
^^You lose D:
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Post by: yse on December 04, 2005, 01:03:52 am
Update: Bios can now be posted into your profile, so if you want to take yours from here and use that feel free to do so. I know I will be.

*does so*
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Post by: sonicam on December 04, 2005, 01:05:45 am
Good idea. :o
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Post by: Bilan on December 04, 2005, 09:40:52 am
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Update: Bios can now be posted into your profile, so if you want to take yours from here and use that feel free to do so. I know I will be.

*does so*
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*same*
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Post by: Rayku on December 22, 2005, 12:06:00 pm
I feel special. That makes me want to -really- play again...
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Post by: Bilan on December 22, 2005, 05:50:54 pm
:D
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Post by: Rayku on December 26, 2005, 09:26:27 pm
It makes me feel special that I've personally met and pwned at Smash Bros. the best Sonic player TSC has =P
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on December 26, 2005, 11:26:16 pm
Well our decision was largely controversial... (actually it was my decision, RPG completely disagreed with me, but I was more persuasive :D)

I suppose if we were to compose a Smash Bros list for TSC players you'd have to be #1, and Cybrax #2 then.

Also, this is the 100th post in this topic! This is only the second topic in TSC's history to reach this milestone!
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Post by: Aere Alouette on December 27, 2005, 01:09:32 am
I wonder how a TSC Top Ten Greatest Ring Players In History would look. Maybe even score.
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Post by: Tails47 2 on December 27, 2005, 08:48:46 am
Is there ever going to be a list like this again? Cause I want to try to crack into the top 10!
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Post by: Rayku on December 27, 2005, 12:00:17 pm
Next list I wanna be at least top 5, but I need to get myself some games...
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Post by: Bilan on December 27, 2005, 07:05:45 pm
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Is there ever going to be a list like this again? Cause I want to try to crack into the top 10!
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Well I had the notion of updating the list every 6 months or so but I forget if I discussed this with mike or not yet X)
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Post by: Rayku on January 02, 2006, 02:24:46 pm
I love how you think my last name is Thunder =P 'Tis not...
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Post by: Bilan on January 02, 2006, 06:01:01 pm
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I love how you think my last name is Thunder =P 'Tis not...
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Probably because you've never revealed your last name to TSC :P
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Post by: Rayku on January 02, 2006, 06:07:03 pm
'Tis White. Plain and simple =)
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Post by: yse on January 02, 2006, 07:00:06 pm
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'Tis White. Plain and simple =)
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Fixed.
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Post by: F-Man on January 02, 2006, 07:09:57 pm
ITT we acclaim F-Man for going from 19th to 8th in SADX in only 3 days. (also from nothingness to 3rd... no wait, 1st now! in scores, lol, what's up with that)
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Post by: sonicam on January 02, 2006, 07:15:47 pm
Don't gloat, we already know you're an elitist... :(
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Post by: F-Man on January 02, 2006, 07:17:36 pm
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Don't gloat, we already know you're an elitist... :(
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...Crap. *goes to do the trick on other people*

Seriously though, I just wanted to point it out. =P And didn't feel like going in the chat.
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Post by: sonicam on January 02, 2006, 07:20:52 pm
Heh. If only I liked SADX, hell, if only I didn't absolutely detest that terrible damn game that frustrates the living fuck out of me and I would love to burn to oblivion whilist smashing it with a sledge hammer and pouring the nuclear waste on it and watch is sizzle... >:D I might actually do something about you beating all my scores and reclaming championship, but that's never going to happen, enjoy getting SADX back... D:
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Post by: Bilan on January 03, 2006, 10:25:27 am
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'Tis White. Plain and simple =)
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Zomg a revealing :o
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Post by: Taco on January 03, 2006, 12:54:01 pm
ya, I'm too lazy to fight back too

I'll probably slip right off the top 10 :(
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Post by: Bilan on January 03, 2006, 05:40:37 pm
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ya, I'm too lazy to fight back too

I'll probably slip right off the top 10 :(
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Not until 6 more people are considered greater than yourself.
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Post by: Rayku on January 03, 2006, 05:52:55 pm
Like me! *snickers off into darkness*
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Post by: yse on January 16, 2006, 08:42:14 am
I am pro the next top ten considering the months from October 23rd to April... whenever... only.

This puts F-Man and Shadow Jacky in the early lead. But you've still got a few months to get back at them!
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Post by: Aere Alouette on January 16, 2006, 05:16:02 pm
I'll be trying as well. All I need is some more times submissions and the like.

Plus I need my Sonic 3 and Knuckles Rings records back.
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Post by: F-Man on January 16, 2006, 05:22:18 pm
I also like that idea mike. Though a global top 10 like last time would also be nice (I wonder where I rank or if I even fit in nowadays...). Dunno.
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Post by: qubit on January 19, 2006, 04:57:05 pm
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2nd: Route 280 2 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 0”00 – That is not a typo! Exactly zero time for this! Manipulating save files to the max. Or perhaps not the max, because of…
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SM, considering you have written some incredible Freestyle guides, I'd love to see a Route 280 2 freestyle guide to along with Cannon's Core etc.
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Post by: Taco on January 19, 2006, 05:11:14 pm
I second that
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Post by: DJ Koopa on January 19, 2006, 08:00:22 pm
You know, I'm suprised I didn't get an honorable mention... I mean, I've completed every Sonic game 100% within days and then submitted Records that are most likely in the top 10, and then there's the times that I set way back and then noone still hasen't beaten them yet ( Toy Kingom 1, anybody? :D ) and pretty much 80% of my stuff is decent... There's also the fact that I was champ of Sonic Drift 2 for a few months because I was the only one that actually wasn't lazy enough to get around to getting all the emblems and missions in SADX...

Or maybe I wasn't up there because of my "vacation" >_>
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Post by: yse on January 19, 2006, 09:16:52 pm
Yeah, we all forgot about you. It's your own damn fault, anyway. =P

Maybe next time - if you've put up more good times/scores. I haven't really been paying attention to the rankings for a while now.
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Post by: SadisticMystic on January 19, 2006, 11:02:54 pm
The Route 280 guide was only a matter of time.  It's up now.
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Post by: DJ Koopa on January 20, 2006, 05:47:55 pm
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Yeah, we all forgot about you. It's your own damn fault, anyway. =P
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Sorry... Well, I'm back now, so put me on there! Immediately! :P
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Post by: Bilan on January 20, 2006, 08:15:43 pm
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SM, considering you have written some incredible Freestyle guides, I'd love to see a Route 280 2 freestyle guide to along with Cannon's Core etc.
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Unnecessary, SM has a 'How to!' style instructional video floating round on the Internet! Zomg!
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Post by: yse on January 20, 2006, 10:38:43 pm
The top ten is now available in one compact, easy-to-read, sexy file! (http://www.soniccenter.org/mike89/top10_oct05.htm)

X)
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Post by: Bilan on January 21, 2006, 06:08:47 pm
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The top ten is now available in one compact, easy-to-read, sexy file! (http://www.soniccenter.org/mike89/top10_oct05.htm)

X)
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Zomg sexay~
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Post by: Rayku on January 21, 2006, 06:41:55 pm
Giggidy Giggidy. Now maybe I'll get even -more- posers on forums I've never heard of =)

It makes me both mad and happy that I see my name around random forums either because they want the name before I get it or they just like me. I feel famous hehe.

Shadow The Hedgehog is t3h sux0rz
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Post by: Taco on January 21, 2006, 07:18:04 pm
haha, I still have that SM vid saved on my pc, along with a few other ones such as metal harbor with a score of 0
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Post by: yse on February 01, 2006, 06:25:17 am
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haha, I still have that SM vid saved on my pc, along with a few other ones such as metal harbor with a score of 0
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Just saw that today.

<3 pulling out the board and dying as you get your E-rank. X)

Back on topic, I'm thinking of doing both universal and periodic top ten lists (though universal ones wouldn't have bios as they'd merely be extensions of existing ones). Thoughts? (preferably from RPG since he'd have to do half the work)
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Post by: Bilan on February 01, 2006, 05:10:05 pm
^^I'm lazy X)

Universal is good since they'll change over time anyway, 6 months is a lot in TA Time.

I daresay myself, Taco and sonicam'll 'drop off the end' soon enough in favor of neweer 'powerhouses' unless we unexpectedly dive out of retirement for a while *shrug*
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Post by: magnum12 on February 01, 2006, 09:14:09 pm
I'm in favor of both universal and periodic top ten. Maybe this time, I'll have a chance at one of those slots with the progress I've been making with my Shadow times.
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Post by: sonicam on February 01, 2006, 10:43:10 pm
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^^I'm lazy X)

Universal is good since they'll change over time anyway, 6 months is a lot in TA Time.

I daresay myself, Taco and sonicam'll 'drop off the end' soon enough in favor of neweer 'powerhouses' unless we unexpectedly dive out of retirement for a while *shrug*
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I'm afraid you're right. :( I actually just played some Heroes today and I couldn't stand it, but I don't wanna lose that championship that easily. :( But I also don't wanna bother and get annoyed w/ Sonic. Decisions, decisions... :/
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Post by: qubit on February 07, 2006, 10:12:56 am
I know this may seem a bit late (or early?) to be campaigning, but for the April version of the Top 10, I think that eredani should at least be considered as one of the top 10.  Consider these statistics:

- eredani holds at least one record in all but one of the games he currently competes in (Sonic 1 GG).
- He currently holds Sonic Heroes, S&K and Sonic Chaos, all with over 80% statistics.
- He has 246 records, many of them times.  That's EXACTLY as much RPG's and NintenDan's records COMBINED.  The only person I've seen with more records is mike89.
- He has just five AntiRecords.
- In Shadow the Hedgehog, he has at least orange in every time he has submitted.

Just consider that one for April, folks!
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Post by: yse on February 07, 2006, 09:06:54 pm
I'm holding off on making any more "predictions" about the list until RPG and I start drafting it.

You guys can predict all you like though. :o
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Post by: F-Man on February 07, 2006, 09:11:41 pm
In no particular order... (as of october to now)

yoshiman
maggot
Me
eredani
Shadow Jacky
gamersince93
SuperSonic101
SkyLights

Uhh... dunno who else. :P
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Post by: PsyBorg on February 07, 2006, 09:13:14 pm
[size=8]I suppose we should have a "Top 10 worst TSC players of all time" to complement this.


We put in a list of the worst TSC n00bs of all time.


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Say, should we have a top 10 players for a specific genre of games? i.e. the 3D ones, the kart-based games, the 2D ones, etc.? It would be a nice idea, IMO.
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Post by: yse on February 07, 2006, 09:17:34 pm
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[size=8]I suppose we should have a "Top 10 worst TSC players of all time" to complement this.


We put in a list of the worst TSC n00bs of all time.


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No sale.

I think it was theenglishman who suggested it a while back, and nobody liked it when he did that. We're not doing it. I'll give you a couple of reasons why:

1. Most people know who they are anyway.
2. We're not trying to glorify the noobs here.

That is all.
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Post by: Aere Alouette on February 08, 2006, 03:20:35 am
Maybe I'm on the list, maybe I'm not. As long as I still play Sonic games, it's ok. (Besides, if the list takes ring records into account, I'd more than likely be in the top 15 at least).
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Post by: PsyBorg on February 08, 2006, 03:06:43 pm
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We put in a list of the worst TSC n00bs of all time.


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No sale.

I think it was theenglishman who suggested it a while back, and nobody liked it when he did that. We're not doing it. I'll give you a couple of reasons why:

1. Most people know who they are anyway.
2. We're not trying to glorify the noobs here.

That is all.
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It's in small text for a reason.


But wait, the small text here isn't even small. :O
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Post by: Aere Alouette on February 08, 2006, 05:03:28 pm
It would be a waste of time, since JoshiG4 would always be at the top (bottom?) of that list.
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Post by: DJ Koopa on February 09, 2006, 12:25:15 pm
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Say, should we have a top 10 players for a specific genre of games? i.e. the 3D ones, the kart-based games, the 2D ones, etc.? It would be a nice idea, IMO.
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Hell yeah! I'd be #2 on the Kart-based games, if not #1! \/\/00+1111

Though, seriously, if we were going for speicifcs like that, then is should only be Top 5, due to the lower ammount of material being used.
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Post by: Spinballwizard on February 09, 2006, 02:11:52 pm
I return to the topic. :o

Actually, the top 5 would be locked in with the now 5 N00bs of the Apocalypse. If you don't know who I mean, check Fake Chat mkii and add JoshiG4 to the list.

Also my current top 10 would probably be:
10. ShadowJacky
9. Rayku
8. SuperSonic101
7. Cybrax
6. yoshifan
5. RPGnutter
4. NintenDan
3. SadisticMystic
2. SprintGod
1. mike89

I'm sorry, I just don't think having the oldest record on TSC is enough to grant #1. >_>

And Sprint v Mike is a huge toss-up.

Actually, I think we should have like, a vote for who we want for top 10. Like, we PM our top 10's to the Top 10 Coordinators (mike89, RPG) and they compile the votes, 10 points for first, 9 for second, 8 for third... all the way to 1 for 10th, and then it's kinda like we have a part in the Top 10 voting.

Of course, this is just another one of my silly ideas.
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Post by: Bilan on February 09, 2006, 02:17:29 pm
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Actually, I think we should have like, a vote for who we want for top 10. Like, we PM our top 10's to the Top 10 Coordinators (mike89, RPG) and they compile the votes, 10 points for first, 9 for second, 8 for third... all the way to 1 for 10th, and then it's kinda like we have a part in the Top 10 voting.
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Or that and then me and mike do funky stuff and compile a list anyway X)
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Post by: sonicam on February 10, 2006, 09:11:27 pm
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I return to the topic. :o

Actually, the top 5 would be locked in with the now 5 N00bs of the Apocalypse. If you don't know who I mean, check Fake Chat mkii and add JoshiG4 to the list.

Also my current top 10 would probably be:
10. ShadowJacky
9. Rayku
8. SuperSonic101
7. Cybrax
6. yoshifan
5. RPGNutter
4. NintenDan
3. SadisticMystic
2. SprintGod
1. mike89

I'm sorry, I just don't think having the oldest record on TSC is enough to grant #1. >_>

And Sprint v Mike is a huge toss-up.

Actually, I think we should have like, a vote for who we want for top 10. Like, we PM our top 10's to the Top 10 Coordinators (mike89, RPG) and they compile the votes, 10 points for first, 9 for second, 8 for third... all the way to 1 for 10th, and then it's kinda like we have a part in the Top 10 voting.

Of course, this is just another one of my silly ideas.
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No, I'm not on the list so it's insta-fail. :( >.> <.< Yeah, I know I gave up Heroes and Battle but I'd rather lose those than to get really frustrated and I have been slacking off at TSC, but it's for the best.

Also, you said RPGNutter, RPG didn't catch it himself for once. :o
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Post by: yse on March 08, 2006, 01:35:07 am
I come to you with a SHOCKING REVELATION!

My declaration that Cybrax held the only record since the beginning of TSC was...

DUN DUN DUN!

...wrong! (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/times/final_rush/mission_2)

Revision of the first top ten ftw? (actually not.)

As for next top ten, you have approximately one month to convince me and RPG you deserve selection. (The precise deadline is Good Friday, April 14, on which date the 10th place for both the universal and periodic top tens will be announced.)

Get to it!

(oh, and RPG - I really need that PM back, looking over this topic I've missed a few people...)
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Post by: Buizel on March 08, 2006, 01:44:27 pm
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I come to you with a SHOCKING REVELATION!

My declaration that Cybrax held the only record since the beginning of TSC was...

DUN DUN DUN!

...wrong! (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/times/final_rush/mission_2)
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SHOCK. HORA. I mean, HORROR. Wow, you and RPG didn't your homework when making your lists, huh? (Actually, I blame you more because you persuaded RPG to make Cybrax #1 and because you posted the bio. :P) According to the Time Machine, Zealous's Final Rush 2 time was submitted first, so...1st goes to Zealous. X) Oh wait...
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Revision of the first top ten ftw? (actually not.)
Boo. :(

On an unrelated note, CW1 score vid to be announced shortly (most likely not going to be on the site, though, probably going to be on YSI).
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Post by: Tails47 2 on March 08, 2006, 03:36:37 pm
I know I don't really have a chance, but to convince you, do we have to PM you or type it in here?


Thanks a ton!
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Post by: Bilan on March 08, 2006, 04:59:18 pm
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I know I don't really have a chance, but to convince you, do we have to PM you or type it in here?
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You dont have to do anything, were going entirely on our own opinions, if we think your good enough ot be in there, your in. If we think your good, but nto good enough for the Top 10, you get an honourary mention. if we dont think your good enough for that, you dont get anything X)
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Post by: douglas on March 08, 2006, 07:38:59 pm
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I know I don't really have a chance, but to convince you, do we have to PM you or type it in here?
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You dont have to do anything, were going entirely on our own opinions, if we think your good enough ot be in there, your in. If we think your good, but nto good enough for the Top 10, you get an honourary mention. if we dont think your good enough for that, you dont get anything X)
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Damn, I'd just finished my 10000 word dissertation on why I'm awesome too.  Ah well.

Edit:
Congrats to RPG on taking the SA2(B) championship!  (/suckup)
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Post by: Bilan on March 08, 2006, 07:50:12 pm
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Edit:
Congrats to RPG on taking the SA2(B) championship!  (/suckup)
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y thnk u.

Not like it'll last though X)
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Post by: Spinballwizard on March 10, 2006, 12:23:01 am
I dunno, I might see douglas on the list this time round.

But then again I'm not making it am I.
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Post by: Aitamen on March 22, 2006, 01:35:39 am
Mad Props to everyone here, especially those who took this little competition.  I've tried to entice people both at school and other sonic boards to come join our ranks and start posting their best scores, so perhaps there might be some more competition soon!

I'm surprised there aren't more strats and talk about paths and the like here on the board, though... it'll be interesting to see what I come up against, now that I've got in here and started pushing myself harder.

The Aitamen
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Post by: Thorn on March 22, 2006, 02:46:20 pm
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I'm surprised there aren't more strats and talk about paths and the like here on the board, though... it'll be interesting to see what I come up against, now that I've got in here and started pushing myself harder.
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You said it yourself: it's a competition.  Not everyone cares to spill their strats, and that's perfectly fine.  Personally, I love sharing strats, but I'm holding off until after the next Top Ten list is released.

The most foolproof way to let someone know about your methods is to video them.  That way, you can't be misunderstood.
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on March 22, 2006, 05:20:42 pm
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The most foolproof way to let someone know about your methods is to video them.  That way, you can't be misunderstood.
[snapback]10973[/snapback]

You can if you do things in your vid that other dont know about. Stuff that looks the same as what there doing, but in fact yields different results.

/me mysterious MUAHAHHAHA
Title: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: qubit on March 22, 2006, 09:01:36 pm
My personal best-player list would be:

1. mike89
2. SprintGod
3. SadisticMystic
4. Cybrax
5. RPGnutter
6. Shadow Jacky
7. gamersince93
8. douglas
9. eredani
10. Rayku

Honourable Mentions: SS101, Marth, Greham Adelphis, sonicam, oldskoolgamer101, Spinballwizard, sonichero

But that's just me.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 10, 2006, 10:02:50 am
Well guess what, you don't write the list. :o

FOUR DAYS LEFT, PEOPLE!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on April 10, 2006, 07:49:32 pm
Exciting. :o!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 10, 2006, 07:52:22 pm
really?

shit...I thought this wasn't for a while...

thought I had more time to come back in advance 2 and advance 3, but guess not :(
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 10, 2006, 08:04:16 pm
/me needs to get his vids up fast. :O
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 10, 2006, 08:14:57 pm
Well I think it's safe to say I'm not on this list.

Gonna have to pump up the pwnage during the next 6 months. (More like next year and hope for periodic lol)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on April 10, 2006, 09:33:17 pm
Yea, I know I'm probably not on the list either. :/ Not that I'm complaining really cuz me playing a lot less that usual is a reward in itself to me. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 10, 2006, 10:32:51 pm
I should get off my ass and actually start writing these bio's.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 12, 2006, 10:48:24 pm
#10s are revealed tomorrow.

I'll start writing the bio now, I think. (Just to let you know, I've got the periodic one tomorrow, and RPG has the universal)

EDIT: Just to give you a bit of background.

The last six months have seen much change at TSC. Prominent changes include:The revealing will start within the next 24 hours. Start speculating, dammit!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 13, 2006, 09:09:52 pm
Also damn you guys being in a different continent than America; I don't want to be asleep when all the action's going on! :|

I could speculate a name for #10, but the possibilities are too broad. So instead I'm going to speculate that whoever it is has a name that start with a letter between b and p.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 13, 2006, 10:01:52 pm
I'll guess Marth for 10th.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on April 13, 2006, 10:20:49 pm
I hope I can get my last records in before the deadline. If things go my way, I might be able to take a last minute championship by tonight.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 13, 2006, 10:56:19 pm
The Top Tens begin!

First off is the 10th place for the Periodic chart (which covers the period from the last top ten until now).

TSC’s GREATEST PLAYER #10 (PERIODIC):

Janardan “Rolken” Yri:
“He who pwns Stadium and Cult. Cause they can’t play.”

We begin our top ten with the founder of TSC himself, Rolken! Once seen only as the spiritual leader of the site, and the guy who does all the work, Rolken has become a quite valid competitor in his own right, particularly in recent times.

At this point in time, Rolken holds no less than three championships (but the fact that they are Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic Pocket Adventure, and competition is arguably very low in all three, is irrelevant).

His first stronghold was Sonic Pocket Adventure. Rolken and sonicam have been dueling on this game for as long as it’s been up (except for the maybe-two days that I held it). Constant competition drove Rolken to get still better times, and indeed the total times there are far better than what was believed possible six months ago.

In more recent times, Rolken has turned his attention to Sonic Chaos – where he took on the might TSC’s new powerhouse, eredani, and won – and Sonic Triple Trouble, which was another battle with sonicam for the crown. At current he holds all three, which is the highest high in Rolken’s TSC career.

Not to mention juggling all this with the usual admin duties, constantly improving the site, and having a hot girlfriend, Rolken is more than worthy of a spot in our Top Ten for the last 6 months.

~mike89

TSC Career (can’t use Time Attack Career any more…):

Current Rankings:

Sonic Riders
513 points, 32.6%
7th of 20 competitors

Shadow the Hedgehog
2385, 21.1%
21st of 40

Sonic Heroes
6576, 39%
26th of 109

Sonic Adventure DX
3962, 27.5%
30th of 80

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
7912, 33.2%
27th of 116

Sonic Rush
949, 56.6%
7th of 44

Sonic Advance
838, 42.4%
8th of 54

Sonic Advance 2
2852, 18.5%
22nd of 84

Sonic Advance 3
410, 35.1%
13th of 43

Sonic 1
555, 53.9%
15th of 95

Sonic 2
1492, 19.9%
22nd of 86

Sonic 3
1560, 13.8%
31st of 73

Sonic and Knuckles
999, 4.2%
26th of 48

Sonic CD
672, 22.8%
18th of 36

Sonic 3D Blast
634, 1.6%
24th of 27

Knuckles Chaotix
351, 0.8%
11th of 12

Sonic 1 GG
244, 27.6%
11th of 35

Sonic 2 GG
208, 31.1%
9th of 20

Sonic Chaos
27, 94.8%
1st of 20

Sonic Triple Trouble
51, 86.1%
1st of 14

Sonic Pocket Adventure
34, 78.9%
1st of 10

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

Note that these records must fall within the same time frame (23/10/05-14/4/06).

This is difficult to do for Rolken, since most of his records are in divisions with very few players, but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

5th: Team Two Rose (SH) – 4”93 – Just for lol value. This is exactly two frames better than second place, and in reality it is entirely luck (but we’ll pretend I never said that).
4th: Great Turquoise 1 – Sonic (STT) – 0:23 – Because he got it second go. Need I say more?
3rd: Meta Junglira 1 – Tails (STT) – 0:38 – Beats all comers by ten seconds, it was so good it forced sonicam to give up.
2nd: Last Utopia (SPA) – 30”20 – This is a damn good time. I will add no more because I know no more.
1st: Huge Crisis Boss – Sonic (Rush) – 2’05”30 – A record by an entire ten seconds, on a game that’s actually popular! Easy choice for the top spot.

Finally, so you can keep track, every day I or RPG will post this:

PERIODIC TOP TEN

#10: Rolken
#9: ???
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Speculate some more, bitches!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 13, 2006, 11:37:13 pm
yay rolken!




Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 13, 2006, 11:43:42 pm
:o Rolken #10. I guess I'm screwed out of this top ten. :(

/me runs
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on April 14, 2006, 01:03:59 am
Congrats to Rolken.
-Edit: Rats, it seems I was too late with my submissions. Oh well, at least I did what I set out to do. (I'm not done yet.)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Rolken on April 14, 2006, 05:45:18 am
:cool:

My rampage of pwn has just begun. Just wait till I take... like... Sonic Jam. >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Crowbar on April 14, 2006, 05:46:52 am
Yeah, seriously, that HCBoss Sonic time is just what.

Grats Rolk. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 14, 2006, 09:39:52 am
TSC's Greatest Player #10 (Universal)

Cameron "sonicam" Jones

The not-so-new kid on the block

<Bio withheld>

What does this mean? Zonos! Find out soon.

Universal Top 10

10: sonicam
9: ???
8: ???
7: ???
6: ???
5: ???
4: ???
3: ???
2: ???
1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 14, 2006, 12:54:11 pm
Ah, a universal top ten and a 6 month period top ten? This makes much more sense actually, as I was really confused :/

so maybe I still stand a chance of being in the top 10 (lower 5)...maybe....
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on April 14, 2006, 02:59:29 pm
Whoa, I didn't think I was gonna make after me playing a lot less and losing many championships. :/ but I'm glad I made it. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Marth on April 14, 2006, 04:48:32 pm
I guess Rolken also killed my chances of getting into the top 10.
You made more improvements in SA than I did (not by a lot, though),
and I have to rely on SA to get into the top players list because
I'm not good enough at SA2, SD, SR, or SH (or anything else) yet. :(

EDIT: "You"? I didn't even quote! Anyway, I meant to be saying that to F-Man.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on April 14, 2006, 04:50:47 pm
Congrats to Rolk and  sonicam and future top 10ers!

*Crosses fingers to make it into a top 10*
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 14, 2006, 07:06:52 pm
Rolken, theoretically, pretty much kills everyone's chances for the top 10, because he owns many games and is champion of 3 of them.


...so there should be something I'm missing that they're using as a factor as to how someone gets into the top 10 periodic.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 14, 2006, 07:46:06 pm
That's not exactly true since Mike and Sprint have good chances on the boards, as does Eredani, but this accounts for only 4 of the ten, so whoever else is in the top 10 is beyond me. I still say Marth is on the list.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: buddychaos0415 on April 14, 2006, 09:20:13 pm
Congrats, Rolko and sonicam. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 14, 2006, 09:22:38 pm
That's not exactly true since Mike and Sprint have good chances on the boards, as does Eredani, but this accounts for only 4 of the ten, so whoever else is in the top 10 is beyond me. I still say Marth is on the list.


Notice the words "pretty much" in my sentence.


There's only a few others who would really qualify to beat Rolken if Rolken is #10, and that's less than 10 iirc.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 14, 2006, 09:41:04 pm
I noticed that too. I was just typing in a reply. Sorry if I did any unnecessary insulting.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 14, 2006, 10:14:40 pm
No, I wasn't insulted or anything, I just wanted to note out that you misunderstood what I was saying and I wanted to clarify what I meant.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 14, 2006, 10:33:12 pm
OK. That's good.

Forgot to mention congratulations Rolken on 10th.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 15, 2006, 12:50:52 am
TSC’s GREATEST PLAYER #9 (PERIODIC):

“Psyknux”:
“Destroyer of legendary records.”

(I could use real names here, people, it adds to the effect.)

Psyknux is the first of a few “new brigade” players to have made this list. He joined only recently, on the 30th of November 2005, and yet was able to make an immediate impact. (This gets him points in my book, as it’s very rare for players to stack up to TSC’s best with little or no previous collaboration.) His first batch of submissions for Sonic Adventure 2 Battle included a time of 2’37”82 on Eternal Engine 1, beating SM’s long standing record which was, by no means, believed to be perfect, but stood almost as a spiritual barrier for over two years.

Psyknux showed immediate talent in SA2B, moving as high as third place on the charts in a very short space of time. At current he sits in fourth position, with a large pool of records to his credit. Notably, he has all four Eternal Engine time records, which is no small feat. It’s been said time and again that even one SA2B record is something to be proud of. Psyknux has no less than twenty unshared records, all obtained within the time frame.

And then, there’s Cosmic Wall. Psyknux and RPG were locked in battle on this level for weeks, and eventually, Psyknux came out the winner with a whopping 170990 points, more than double the required amount for an A rank! He backed it up with a measly 160340 on mission 5 of the same level.

More recently, Psyknux turned his attention to Sonic Heroes and Sonic Riders. He’s shown potential in both without doing too much, I think he may have been hoping to slip under the radar a little, however I believe I’ve killed his chances of that now.

Congratulations to Psyknux for sealing the #9 spot in the periodic Top Ten!

~mike89

TSC Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Riders
472, 39.3%
6th of 21

Sonic Heroes
7225, 33%
30th of 109

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
1752, 85.2%
4th of 116

Sonic Advance
1229, 15.5%
21st of 54

Sonic Advance 2
3290, 6.7%
35th of 84

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

I wanted to use a few from games other than SA2B, but it turns out Psyknux has all of seven records outside SA2B… and all ring records. So blah, there goes that.

5th: Metal Harbor 5 (SA2B) – 217 rings – You can tell I’m at a stretch when I pick a ring count. Still nobody else seems to know what he does, so it works.
4th: Mission Street 3 (SA2B) – 1’38”59 – For pseudo-perfect value.
3rd: Meteor Herd 5 (SA2B) – 40”65 – That’s pretty damn leet if you ask me.
2nd: Cosmic Wall 1 (SA2B) – 170990 – I think his comment says it all here: “You can only imagine the pain and torment I went through to get this...” The single highest score on the site.
1st: Eternal Engine 1 (SA2B) – 2’37”82 – Because he beat one of the longest standing records at TSC, and proved it too. SM’s run was well before its time, but a barrier was broken with this time being set.

PERIODIC TOP TEN:

#10: Rolken
#9: Psyknux
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 15, 2006, 01:38:35 am
Congratulations Psyknux!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SadisticMystic on April 15, 2006, 02:03:48 am
Just for the record, 170990 is NOT (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_battle/scores/tails/level_2) the highest score on the site.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Rolken on April 15, 2006, 03:01:13 am
Even among the standard games Marble 2 has it beat with 238830. But good job lol :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Buizel on April 15, 2006, 03:20:05 am
Booya.

Just for the record, 170990 is NOT (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_battle/scores/tails/level_2) the highest score on the site.

Aren't all the Battle records over 170990? 170990 is the highest SA2(B) score, though (excluding Totals, of course).

I think he may have been hoping to slip under the radar a little, however I believe I’ve killed his chances of that now.

I was not...whatever gave you that idea? >_> Anyway, expect some major pwnage next month when final exams are over.

And before I forget...thanks for considering me in the periodic top 10, guys! And thanks for the comments, Greham and Rolken! ^_^ Oh, and congrats on 10th, Rolken!

5th: Metal Harbor 5 (SA2B) – 217 rings – You can tell I’m at a stretch when I pick a ring count. Still nobody else seems to know what he does, so it works.
...More like no one wants to really try. It's wasn't that hard...it's pretty much the same as doing the 194 MHa1 RA. Besides, nobody's asked me about these sorts of things anyway. :P

EDIT: Love the title you gave me: “Destroyer of legendary records.” lol!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 15, 2006, 03:25:47 am
Just for the record, 170990 is NOT (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_battle/scores/tails/level_2) the highest score on the site.

Shows what I know. I wrote that at 1am yesterday morning.

Sonic Battle never occured to me, and to be honest I don't see how you can get 230k on Marble 2.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 15, 2006, 09:54:13 am
^^You can get 300K+ in S1GG's GH1 too :P

Next revealing being edited onto this momentarilly :o

Here we go :o

TSC's Greatest Player #9 (Universal)

Douglas "douglas" Gresham

He's 2D till he dies folks

<Bio withheld>

oh snap. This again. Whatever could it mean? :o Find out soon enough

Universal Top 10

10: sonicam
9: Douglas
8: ???
7: ???
6: ???
5: ???
4: ???
3: ???
2: ???
1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 15, 2006, 11:51:00 am
"<Bio withheld>

oh snap. This again. Whatever could it mean? :o Find out soon enough"

Stop using this as an excuse to cover up your laziness :(
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 15, 2006, 12:47:17 pm
Not like we don't know what it means... :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: buddychaos0415 on April 15, 2006, 03:52:35 pm
Congrats on getting in the Periodic Top Ten, Destroyer of Legendary Records. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 15, 2006, 05:09:02 pm
Ok guys, I have a confession

Im really and truly sorry to everyone who feels let down after they read this, particularly mike, but I figure if I say this now its better than saying it tomorrow.

I really dont know if Im gonna have the bio's that Im meant to be doing finished, for the next day or two at least. This isn't down to laziness on my part, I assure you, but I went through some shit today thats virtually destroyed me and I dont really feel up to anything, I tried playing Sonic 1 earlier and even that didn't make me feel any better, which it usually does *sigh*

Rest assured, I AM going to do these bio's, for one I promised mike I'd do it, just you may have to wait a little longer for the ones Im writing

Again, I fully apologise to everyone who feels let down by the above, but I honestly dont think Im gonna be up to writing for a fay or two

Thanks in advance for understanding (hopefully), you guys rock

~ARRPEEGEE
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 15, 2006, 05:37:28 pm
I understand. I usually have that happen to me quite often, so I know what it feels like. I say take as much time off as you need.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on April 15, 2006, 07:48:22 pm
Well if you're feeling down, take your time with them.

Hope you feel better.

And try Sonic 2. it's better :)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 15, 2006, 09:19:53 pm
Ya rly.

Also it's Douglas Gresham or whatnot isn't it?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 16, 2006, 05:49:19 am
Ya rly.

Also it's Douglas Gresham or whatnot isn't it?

Correct.

I've been lazy today, I'll have the #8 Universal bio up within the hour. I promise. EDIT: Un-lazy-ified and bio completed.

TSC’s ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #8:

Mike “supersonic101” Erman:
“Undisputed God of SA2B.”

SuperSonic101’s efforts in SA2B and other games have already been covered at length in the previous top ten (in the same position, no less!) so this bio will just cover the last six months.

At the end of October, SS101 was a comfortable leader in SA2B by a good 200 points, and never looked like being toppled with Rayku and Cybrax out of the game. And then the unthinkable happened. Rolken got off his arse and changed the weightings of ring counts and scores to be equal to the well-established time rankings.

On the 14th of December, SS101 had a similar lead to that he held at the end of October. On the 15th, he had been overtaken. Not by Rayku, or Cybrax, but RPGnutter. The weight changes worked heavily in his favour, and SS101 was forced to do considerably more SA2B playing to get back his title. As per usual, he rose to the occasion.

This prompted RPG and SS101 to continue their long-running rivalry on the game, with the championship changing hands daily, and sometimes by the hour. In recent times he has withstood renewed challenges from Rayku, Psyknux and myself, whilst fending off RPG to maintain his throne by a fairly comfortable 50 points at present.

SS101 also turned his hand to Sonic Drift for all of one day. In that day, he got the championship, had some new guy take it off him, resulting in me dishing out some pwnage, only for me to be beaten again by the same guy. What a day!

Finally, there’s the new games, Shadow and Riders. SS101 didn’t get a good run at Riders, having only rented it for a week, but he impressed at Shadow and probably could have a few records if not for a couple of other players putting in far more effort.

I think you’ll agree that SS101’s efforts have earned him a spot in both universal Top Tens conducted thus far. Congratulations!

TSC Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Riders
737, 5.3%
17th of 21

Shadow the Hedgehog
1764, 41.6%
14th of 40

Sonic Heroes
6729, 37.6%
27th of 109

Sonic Adventure DX
4548, 19%
36th of 81

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
923, 92.2%
1st of 116

Sonic Advance
1327, 9%
32nd of 54

Sonic 1
1171, 3.9%
70th of 96

Sonic 2
1768, 6.3%
44th of 87

Sonic 1 GG
331, 1.8%
31st of 35

Sonic Chaos
517, 1.7% (had to take this from the rankings page)
20th of 20

Sonic Drift
43, 86%
3rd of 19

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

All 113 of SS101’s records are in SA2B. Damnit.

5th: Security Hall 3 (SA2B) – 14”17 – It figured in the last top five, and now there’s a video of it. Too good to ignore.
4th: Death Chamber 1 (SA2B) – 10”69 – I never thought I’d pick a hunting level in here, but after SM gave them so much attention anyone who could beat him would have to do something pretty impressive.
3rd: Pumpkin Hill 3 (SA2B) – 18”87 – I kinda preferred it more when the record was an even 20 seconds. This still pwns though.
2nd: Prison Lane 1 (SA2B) – 1’34”00 – SS101 is the master of this level (and many others), with the video to prove it.
1st: Mission Street 1 (SA2B) – 2’04”94 – In a level where times should be well clumped at the upper end, SS101 has the record by a second and a half. He described his run as flawless, and rightly so – this time isn’t going to be beaten for a long time yet.

UNIVERSAL TOP 10:

#10: sonicam
#9: Douglas
#8: SuperSonic101
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taillow on April 16, 2006, 07:17:49 am
I tell ya, there are certainly a lot of great record-makers here.  Seeing the top of the top and their reasons and such... gah, I can't think of anything else to type.  I just felt I needed to post.

Congrats to all!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 16, 2006, 05:45:11 pm
Good job SS~

Hmm I'm seriously starting to doubt I'm in the Universal Top 10 now. Or if I am I must be #7 or something.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on April 16, 2006, 06:10:31 pm
I call BS.

Seriously, I thought I might make the periodic, but I thought my lack of depth in competition would keep me out of the universal (reaching close to the top in multiple games is waaay harder than taking a single championship).  I also thought I'd get a tagline like "Fails at nicknames" or sommat if I was in :)

Also: RPG is the greatest.  Take it easy man.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on April 16, 2006, 06:51:32 pm
Don't worry about it RPG, yea shit happens, just take it easy, come back when you're ready.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 16, 2006, 07:16:01 pm
Well, since we're already behind on bios, I'll just say that you're #8 periodic, sonicam.

RPG can write it when he feels up to it... My #7 one is coming later today.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 16, 2006, 08:49:29 pm
I figure you guys need an update as to the bio's I've not done yet.

Im feeling much better today, and I daresay that after tomorrow (actually today but hey) Ill be back to my old self again :D

Ill tend to all the outstanding bio's I need to do first of all, and then probably make some more hoaxes :o

I started hoaxing earlier to try and take my mind of things and not only did it work a treat I enjoyed it too :D

Thanks for understanding guys, you all rock

~ARRPEEGEE
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Tails47 2 on April 16, 2006, 09:30:20 pm
Glad to see you're feeling better
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 17, 2006, 02:39:15 am
Probably not the smartest idea I've ever had, given #8 on the list is outstanding, but I'll post #7 now. (RPG, edit #8 into an earlier post.)

TSC’s GREATEST PLAYER #7 (PERIODIC):

“PsyBorg”:
“Chaos Control!”

PsyBorg is the second of the infamous Psy family on the list. He joined, again, fairly recently, on the 15th of December last year, but made an immediate impact as a high-ranked player in Shadow the Hedgehog.

PsyBorg was initially focused on the score attacking aspect of the game, then made a similarly successful move towards bosses. However he realised that to pass the then-current champion, Shadow Jacky, he would have to have similarly impressive times. He obliged, and attained the championship on the 22nd of February. Just yesterday, yoshifan took the championship after finally filling out his timesheet, but PsyBorg responded swiftly, and now leads by six points.

In the meantime, PsyBorg racked up a number of quality submissions in other games, notably Sonic Adventure DX, where he took a few score records, and Sonic Riders. Perhaps PsyBorg will move from scores, to bosses, to times on SADX? With continued application, he may, in time, become comparable to the top bracket of players here.

In time, maybe the Psys will rule this place. For now, they’re at 9 and 7, and this one is a rising star.

TSC Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Riders
604, 22.4%
10th of 21

Shadow the Hedgehog
187, 93.8%
1st of 40

Sonic Adventure DX
4804, 14.6%
43rd of 81

Sonic Rush
2199, 1.2%
38th of 45

Sonic 1
1207, 1.2%
92nd of 96

Sonic CD
689, 21.3%
19th of 36

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

I haven’t played Shadow so I’m really guessing as to what records are good. Here goes:

5th: Splash Canyon (Riders) – Single Lap – 33”57 – Because I like using records from different games.
4th: Windy Valley (SADX) – Sonic – 7060 – I love records that are set on the first try. Plus, 10 point beatings for the win.
3rd: Space Gadget (Shadow) – Hero – 1’49”98 – Because just beating, or landing exactly on, time barriers are awesome.
2nd: Egg Breaker (Shadow) – Neutral – 5”42 – Because, generally, it’s the person you least suspect who has the button basher records. And PsyBorg blows that theory out of the water.
1st: Prison Island (Shadow) – Dark – 45900 – PsyBorg said this was his best record. I’ll have to take his word for it.

PERIODIC TOP 10:

#10: Rolken
#9: Psyknux
#8: sonicam
#7: PsyBorg
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Stardust Speedman on April 17, 2006, 09:22:49 am
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2nd: Route 280 2 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 0”00 – That is not a typo! Exactly zero time for this! Manipulating save files to the max. Or perhaps not the max, because of…

Can someone please tell me just what this "Freestyle" thing in SA2(B) is?!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 17, 2006, 10:56:50 am
Mike, you misinterpreted what I said about PI Dark.



I said it was my best record for the stage and that it would not ever be improved by me unless some really awesome strategy came in and knocked the crap out of it.


But if you want to know what I think really is my best record of all time...


http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/shadow_the_hedgehog/scores/final_haunt/hero


(Speaking of which, I should actually get to writing that guide soon, dammit!)




But other than that, thanks, Mike. I feel really honored I to be somewhere on that list. I can't express what I'm about to say further for three reasons; one, I don't think it can be explained, two, I'm too lazy to explain, and three, I have some gaming to do. *flee*
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Buizel on April 17, 2006, 12:07:01 pm
Congrats, PsyBorg!

In time, maybe the Psys will rule this place.

Yeah, that's right. PsyBorg will have Shadow and SA(DX) and I will have SA2(B) and Heroes. Then, the world!...er...the rest of TSC's championships... -_-; (But what will Psymar have? D:)

Because I feel like it, I'll post this (http://www.geocities.com/ratchetsage/sa2b_then_and_now.txt) which is a text file comparing my SA2(B) times/rings/scores as they were when I first started playing the game in August 2005 to my current stats (as of March 22). Looking at this really makes me feel accomplished. =D
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 17, 2006, 03:28:34 pm
I'm still guessing Marth is on the list...though by now I would take flying guesses I'd be on there.
Congrats to PsyBorg, SS101, and sonicam.

(EDIT: As for the avatar, I've used it elsewhere, but it's there because of the lack of a better avatar.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SadisticMystic on April 17, 2006, 07:42:32 pm
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2nd: Route 280 2 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 0”00 – That is not a typo! Exactly zero time for this! Manipulating save files to the max. Or perhaps not the max, because of…

Can someone please tell me just what this "Freestyle" thing in SA2(B) is?!

Freestyle is for incredibly abusive tricks, much more so than normal tricks.  In this case you should give http://www.soniccenter.org/guides/sonic_adventure_2_b/guide78 a read.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 17, 2006, 07:44:35 pm
Update again :o

Im pretty much back to myself again now, Charlie and I spent the whole day together today (technically yesterday) and its really patched thinsg back up between us. Aside from my Competition Topic that Im opening shortly (:o) next thing on my agenda are the bio's, which will all emerge within the next 24 hours or so (The outstanding ones atleast :P)

Cheers guys,

~ARRPEEGEE
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Stardust Speedman on April 18, 2006, 07:34:29 am
Quote
2nd: Route 280 2 (SA2B) – Freestyle – 0”00 – That is not a typo! Exactly zero time for this! Manipulating save files to the max. Or perhaps not the max, because of…

Can someone please tell me just what this "Freestyle" thing in SA2(B) is?!

Freestyle is for incredibly abusive tricks, much more so than normal tricks.  In this case you should give http://www.soniccenter.org/guides/sonic_adventure_2_b/guide78 a read.
Thanks! Interesting thing! However, it's a little unfair for those guys who don't know how to do these tricks, because they will always get a lower rank in the TSC SA2(B) Ranking List than they deserve, because they haven't any records in the freestyle section. For example, I now know how this works for Route 280 mission 2, but what about those other stages in the freestyle section? I would never know until I would also read guids for them. In fact, this freestyle thing is just for a very small group of the SA2(B) player folk.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 18, 2006, 07:39:48 am
That's why freestyle counts for zero points.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Stardust Speedman on April 18, 2006, 09:01:39 am
Oh! Didn't pay attention to that! Sorry! Long monologue for nothing! :p
How are the points calculated anyway?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 18, 2006, 09:31:26 am
Obligatory FAQ (http://www.soniccenter.org/siteinfo/faq) reference!

How does the ranking system work?
Players are ranked in each game by points. Points are calculated by adding up your rank in each division in a game and then subtracting the number of divisions. This means that first place is worth 0 points, second place is 1, and so on. If you had all the site records for a game, your point total would be 0.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 18, 2006, 06:35:50 pm
:/

Im sorry guys, but Im not gonna be writing these for atleast a day

To cut a long story short, Charlie and I were both assaulted walking to her house and were still both a little shaken up, although I have a few more injuries than she does <_<

Anyway, sorry if Im really taking the piss with these bio's, but I need a little time to cool off and stuff.

EDIT: #7 Universal is effy, bio goes here.

#10: sonicam
#9: douglas
#8: SS101
#7: F-Man
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 18, 2006, 07:06:15 pm
TSC’s ALL TIME GREATEST PLAYER #6:

Russell “SadisticMystic” Jones:
“The master of the hunt.”

We come, now, to a familiar face on the top ten. SM would’ve been in the top ten at any point in TSC’s history you cared to choose. These days, however, he’s chosen to compete only very selectively, and has developed a reputation as the master glitch finder and hunting master.

Everything before October is already covered in the first top ten, so I’ll start from the end of October. And since SM did nothing notable in October/November, I’ll flash forward to December.

Once the weighting changes came into effect, the state of play on SA2B was changed drastically. SM chose to make this an advantage by taking the “easier” ring records. Turns out not all of them are as easy as they seem… see the Final Chase guide. Anyhow, SM took all the ring records available to DC players (since some levels have more rings on GC) and was the first player to pass a total of 15000 rings.

An assortment of records here and there came from SM in the next couple of months, however in late March, in an attempt to further smash the SA2B total time, he determined the best pieces for all the hunting levels, the optimal way to get them, and – more importantly – he actually did them. As a result, all Knuckles/Rouge mission 1s are now under twenty seconds, where some had been as much as 20 seconds higher before. And with the help of a video by a new user, Blaze, he smashed the Cannon’s Core times into the ground as well.

These efforts were enough to keep SM in the overall top ten, however he didn’t do as much playing as some of the other players on the list, so he’s been relegated a couple of spots. #6 is still good, though… better than all but five of TSC’s members can get to, so congratulations!

TSC Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Adventure DX
2765, 50.9%
19th of 81

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
3335, 71.9%
8th of 116

Sonic Advance
1398, 6.2%
36th of 55

Sonic Advance 2
2512, 28.8%
16th of 85

Sonic 1
550, 55%
15th of 96

Sonic 2
985, 47.8%
10th of 87

Sonic 3
902, 50.5%
7th of 74

Sonic and Knuckles
562, 46.5%
5th of 49

Sonic CD
418, 52.3%
6th of 36

Sonic 3D Blast
552, 15.5%
15th of 27

Knuckles Chaotix
167, 52.8%
3rd of 12

Sonic R
485, 2.8%
33rd of 33

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

I might pick some newer ones this time…

5th: Egg Hornet (SADX) – Tails – 43”81 – Yay for freakish events indeed. Whatever it was, nobody else can do it, so this time stands 17 seconds ahead of the pack.
4th: Final Chase 1 (SA2B) – 510 rings – For sheer perseverance value, and for putting up a guide so nobody else has to suffer the same fate.
3rd: Egg Totem (SAdva2) – Sonic – 5”50 – The second SAdva2 boss to obtain a perfect time, and, if the TAS is any guide, the last. Aero Egg has five players on a perfect time, so this is a far more impressive effort.
2nd: Sky Sanctuary (S&K) – Knuckles – 1:00 – On a level where 1:01 was deemed perfect for a long time, SM played a pseudo-TAS run to determine that this was indeed possible, and then pull it off in real time. Maybe 59 will be possible one day?
1st: Wild Canyon 1 (SA2B) – 1”57 – This time alone makes SM the hunting master. Set back in July ’05, it was the first to demonstrate the 3-2-1 theory of collecting pieces (though actually, 3 and 2 were collected at once), and certainly the first under two seconds. It has, of course, yet to be matched, and unless someone gets the 1-in-8000 3-2-1 setup in one go, it’s not likely to be beaten.

UNIVERSAL TOP 10:

#10: sonicam
#9: Douglas
#8: SS101
#7: F-Man
#6: SadisticMystic
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 18, 2006, 07:19:18 pm
Ha, knew I had to be #7. I should have played SA2 a bit more, hmm... Also I can't wait to see my bio. :O

And congrats SM.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SadisticMystic on April 18, 2006, 07:23:27 pm
I wouldn't say there was nothing (http://soniccenter.org/videos/2-3-3-1-1281.avi) that happened in October...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 19, 2006, 12:59:20 am
It has, of course, yet to be matched, and unless someone gets the 1-in-8000 3-2-1 setup in one go, it’s not likely to be beaten.
Not to mention on Dreamcast, IIRC? Since it has the wider uppercut range and all?

Also wow SM dropped. :O
Wasn't he like #4 6 months ago?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 19, 2006, 01:15:38 am
That's what happens when you don't play

I'm concerned for my positioning now, as I wasn't very high to begin with, and I haven't really done jack shit as far as time attacking goes for the last 6 months...so I dunno :/
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: SuperSonic101 on April 19, 2006, 05:07:02 pm
Congrats to douglas, sonicam, effy, SM, and everyone else
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aitamen on April 20, 2006, 10:33:49 pm
Mad props for everyone here.  I really do enjoy all this stuff, and seeing what grand notes I'm up against...

The Aitamen
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 21, 2006, 01:22:53 am
Okay, since RPG's been an arse and not done any bio writing:

#6 periodic is Shadow Jacky, and he'll get recognition at some point.

For now, #5!

TSC’s GREATEST PLAYER #5 (PERIODIC):

Mike “gamersince93” ______:
“Because there has to be a twist?”

(I really wanted to use that for SBW, but he didn’t do enough to get on the list. Oh well.)

gamersince93 (henceforth referred to as GS93 per his own request) is another of our “new brigade” players, having joined up only recently on November 18th of last year. In his time at TSC, he’s picked up 23 of TSC’s 26 listed games, and in most games he’s made an immediate impact. In fact, he has records in no less than 16 games!

GS93’s major focus in his time at TSC has been the long-neglected Knuckles Chaotix charts. It may be fair to say they haven’t been played much in the past, but he still has almost every single record, and a total point score of 6. Now that’s incredible domination, especially in the days of ring and score weightings where a player must excel in three areas to become totally dominant.

GS93 has also excelled in many other games, holding an orange or better overall rank in ten separate games, and having only been here five months that is an incredible effort on his part. He’s also put up plenty of videos for Sonic 3 and Knuckles Chaotix, so there’s no denying his legitimacy. His efforts gave him a top five position for the last six months, though as you’ll see he was up against some serious competition. Congratulations!

TSC Career:

Current Rankings:

Sonic Riders
202, 74.3%
3rd of 21

Shadow the Hedgehog
1722, 45.7%
13th of 41

Sonic Heroes
3354, 69.1%
8th of 110

Sonic Adventure DX
2160, 61.6%
11th of 81

Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
4379, 63.1%
10th of 116

Sonic Rush
960, 58.5%
6th of 45

Sonic Advance
901, 41.6%
10th of 55

Sonic Advance 2
2402, 33%
15th of 86

Sonic Advance 3
217, 66%
7th of 44

Sonic 1
755, 38.5%
20th of 96

Sonic 2
962, 48.9%
9th of 87

Sonic 3
914, 50.1%
8th of 75

Sonic and Knuckles
615, 41.4%
6th of 49

Sonic CD
273, 68.8%
4th of 36

Sonic 3D Blast
352, 46.1%
8th of 27

Knuckles Chaotix
6, 98.3%
1st of 12


Sonic 1 GG
173, 52.2%
6th of 36

Sonic 2 GG
184, 39.1%
6th of 20

Sonic Triple Trouble
228, 38.4%
6th of 15

Sonic Jam
10, 82.5%
2nd of 8

Sonic R
174, 65.1%
6th of 33

Sonic Drift
173, 43.6%
7th of 19

Sonic Drift 2
63, 74.2%
3rd of 12

Best five records (as adjudged by myself):

5th: Isolated Island 1 (KC) – 33”99 – This level has no obstacles by way of enemies or anything like that. None whatsoever. And yet he still beats everyone by eight seconds.
4th: Night Carnival 2 (Rush) – 1’58”52 – The only time under two minutes here, and a record by seven seconds. Good enough for this.
3rd: Launch Base 2 (S3) – Knuckles – 2:23 – At the time this was set, I held the record with a seemingly comfortable 2:39. All the tricks I could find on the level still only brought me to within six seconds. An incredible time indeed.
2nd: Sky Base 2 (S1GG) – 0:11 – This beats Sprint for crying out loud. 'Nuff said.
1st: Introduction (KC) – 1’35”58 – Beats everyone by 25 seconds, and in fact was comparable to the TAS time (before the author discovered wall zipping). One of the more outstanding times on the site.

PERIODIC TOP 10:

#10: Rolken
#9: Psyknux
#8: sonicam
#7: PsyBorg
#6: Shadow Jacky
#5: gamersince93
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Mad props if you can guess the top four in order.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 21, 2006, 02:12:50 am
4. Greham Adelphis (Just a guess...albeit a very massive one. I don't expect to get any of the others right anyway, so I might as well bomb myself out of the guessing list.)
3. F-Man
2. Douglas
1. Eredani (Not a doubt in my mind at all.)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 21, 2006, 03:45:39 am
I might very well be forgetting some other people but oh well...

4: eredani
3: douglas
2: yoshifan
1: F-Man (yes? :D No? D:)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on April 21, 2006, 05:15:43 am
I'd say Crowbar, but the fact he's only competing in Rush will likely hurt him.  Also a shame SBW isn't on the list; top drawer player (especially IP2) and definitely my pick to be high up next time.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Crowbar on April 21, 2006, 06:04:15 am
Man there's no way I could be any higher than 5. Unless the fact that I fairly well dominated a largely uncontested (probably long-lasting too) championship in just a couple of weeks would make up for my only competing in one game.

GJ GS93. :O

I still have no fucking idea what you're doing on NC2. :/
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Thorn on April 21, 2006, 10:57:45 am
#5!  Schweet!  (goes to update bio)  And finally, I've got a shorter name to be known by.  But I knew I should've entered in Chaos and Battle... and finding a Pocket Adventure ROM isn't hard.   I'm pretty surprised more people haven't DLed a Chaotix ROM, too.

Quote from: Crowbar
I still have no fucking idea what you're doing on NC2. :/
I think I'll keep it a secret for just a little longer; I'll spill the beans eventually.  Although if you keep trying, I'm sure you'll figure it out.  Then SkyLights will notice and go find out how to do it, and then I'll give up and play something else.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Crowbar on April 21, 2006, 11:00:58 am
Well I did find two things Blaze can do, actually, one of which is easy and the other of which is based on a random enemy placement.

I just hate the level too much to want to try putting them into practice. XD It's so goddamn long and frustrating.

And it's not like either of these helps with Sonic. >:[
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Thorn on April 21, 2006, 11:02:42 am
Random enemy placement?  You're thinking too hard, it's much easier than that.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Crowbar on April 21, 2006, 11:37:55 am
We might not be thinking of the same thing, mind. What I'm thinking of is skipping the slow moving lights lift near the end (immediately after the second rolling ball) by doing an Axel Tornado up from the spring and hitting an enemy to give you the last bit of height needed to get onto the upper level (since the Axel Tornado alone doesn't give you quite enough height). Is that what you're thinking of? I can't think of any other way to skip that since as far as I know jumping off the slope itself is all blocked off (as all these long steep slopes are).
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Thorn on April 21, 2006, 04:06:21 pm
^I've tried that millions of times, it's too random.  My methods can be performed over and over again.  Instead of trying better techniques, why not look for a faster route?  If I gave another hint, I'd practically be telling you what to do.

Getting back to what mike89 calls my "best" record, I made a vid of Introduction (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/Introduction.wmv) just for kicks.  The picture quality is, well... there's none.  Apparently the size limit has been reinstated on video submissions.  I crammed this sucker down from 8MB to 2MB, so in the video you can see where I'm going, but the scenery is a blur.
EDIT 2:  Ugh... it didn't survive submissions.  Maybe tomorrow I'll send the 8MB version to Rolken's e-mail.  No time right now, though.




EDIT: Speaking of top players, what's with the blanks in the Prominent Members section?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Buizel on April 21, 2006, 05:36:58 pm
^^^ They're there so that those of us who want to can hack into the database and put ourselves in. :P Seriously, though, I think there's gonna be an addition to that list soon.

I might very well be forgetting some other people but oh well...

4: eredani
3: douglas
2: yoshifan
1: F-Man (yes? :D No? D:)

I honestly don't think you rank that high, F-Man. :(

My guess will be...

4: yoshifan
3: F-Man
2: douglas
1: eredani
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 21, 2006, 07:49:05 pm
fyi, I think you skipped over Shadow Jacky as one of the periodic top 10 players.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: F-Man on April 21, 2006, 07:59:29 pm
fyi, I think you skipped over Shadow Jacky as one of the periodic top 10 players.
...He was #6 you dum.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: sonicam on April 21, 2006, 09:42:48 pm
Where's my bio!?!?!! D:

Also, GS93, I've downloaded the KC ROM but I really hate the game play, the partner system is worse than Heroes IMO (yea, I know it was before Heroes... :/). I just found it ccmpletely frustrating to find the right character combinations and to make moves with the Ring bind thingy. Very annoying. :(
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: PsyBorg on April 21, 2006, 10:02:31 pm
fyi, I think you skipped over Shadow Jacky as one of the periodic top 10 players.
...He was #6 you dum.


You fewls misinterpreted what I say again.


I meant that you didn't give him a bio or anything.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on April 23, 2006, 02:55:26 am
mike and I have come to the conclusion that we should release the lists now and post the bio's soon....so without further ado, here is the Periodic Top 10 List!

10. Rolken
9. Psyknux
8. sonicam
7. PsyBorg
6. SJ
5. gamersince93
4. mike89
3. F-Man
2. douglas
1. eredani
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 23, 2006, 03:02:56 am
I think you'll agree that, due to exceptional circumstances, the bios would be better off being delayed rather than rushed out (as many of mine were). So, as mentioned, we're releasing the top ten lists and doing the bios later. We'll also post the older ones again so they're all in the one place.

So, without further ado...

UNIVERSAL TOP 10

#10: sonicam
#9: douglas
#8: SS101
#7: F-Man
#6: SM
#5: Taco
#4: RPG
#3: eredani

*drumroll please*

#2: ...no one?
#1: Sprint/mike89 (This was our big surprise which was meant to be revealed today. It was the idea behind releasing the last two bios for each set on the same day, not so everyone knew the #1 a full day beforehand as was mentioned in the chat [though that did work favourably too]. Instead of attempting to split Sprint and myself, RPG suggested this solution. I thought it was fair.)

Now, some recognition for those who didn't quite make the list. Certainly, our periodic list had a short list of about 25 players who made themselves available for selection, and the high echelon of the periodic top ten were considered in the universal as well.

So here's a list of those who deserve their own little bit of recognition:

yoshifan - Was incredibly unlucky. We had actually drafted him at #10 periodic... and was later replaced by Rolken, on a spur of the moment decision about an hour before I put the bio up. Gets an honourable mention for impressive efforts in Shadow and S&K.

Spinballwizard - I promised him in advance that if he was able to make the Big Three on Sonic Advance 2, he'd get a spot on the periodic list. He didn't quite get that far, but he got pretty close, and was in our considerations right to the end. Also did other cool stuff across loads of games.

Marth - If not for F-Man, Marth would be the undisputed champion of Sonic Adventure DX - and probably worthy of a top five, let alone top 10 in the periodic list. Unfortunately, F-Man has once again overshadowed one of our top competitors, and I'm sure we'll see Marth in the next edition of the Top Tens.

SkyLights, and later Crowbar - For getting Sonic Rush TAing on its feet, and taking it to new and unprecedented levels, respectively.

magnum12 - Holds credible rankings in both Shadow and Heroes, though most of the work on the latter was done before the periodic time frame. Still one of our top 3Ders.

maggot - Took, arguably, the most difficult championship in Sonic CD, given Sprint's stranglehold on it in the past. Again, though, the foundation was set before the periodic time frame.

Greham Adelphis - Came out of nowhere to take Sonic 3D, and was highly ranked on Sonic Chaos as well. He lapsed out of TSC for a while, before recently returning and making another push towards S3D.

And finally...

Aitamen - My pick as TSC's newest rising star. If Psyknux is the Destroyer of Legendary Records, then there isn't a title fitting enough to document the scalps Aitamen has taken of late. On Sonic 2, he holds, among others, the Hill Top 1 Knuckles, CP1K, and AR2K records, all of which had stood for considerable lengths of time. Add to that his work on score attacking the game, and we have a real force to be reckoned with on our hands. If he acquires his own Sonic 2/3/Knuckles carts a new period of domination may begin...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 23, 2006, 03:59:48 am
Aitamen - My pick as TSC's newest rising star. If Psyknux is the Destroyer of Legendary Records, then there isn't a title fitting enough to document the scalps Aitamen has taken of late. On Sonic 2, he holds, among others, the Hill Top 1 Knuckles, CP1K, and AR2K records, all of which had stood for considerable lengths of time. Add to that his work on score attacking the game, and we have a real force to be reckoned with on our hands. If he acquires his own Sonic 2/3/Knuckles carts a new period of domination may begin...

I already think Aitamen is a total force to be reckoned with. Very impressive with the records.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Crowbar on April 23, 2006, 09:19:13 am
Woah sweet. :O
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on April 23, 2006, 09:44:53 am
#2 periodic?  Blimey!  Congratulations to everyone, and kudos to RPG and mike for running this in the first place.

Also dead right about Aitamen for the effort that went into the S2 score records and some mighty SS ring counts, as well as awesome times.

Now to start my assault on the next set of rankings ^_^
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on April 23, 2006, 12:31:48 pm
I wonder if next time we do this list, we should add some new divisions for the top 10's such as best 2D/3D players for a little twist. It's cool that I made honorable mention. Was that list for the periodicals, universal, or both?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 23, 2006, 01:40:38 pm
And you can expect me to make the next periodic. X)

Also I vote we get a new topic for October. >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on April 23, 2006, 09:37:14 pm
And you can expect me to make the next periodic. X)

Also I vote we get a new topic for October. >_>

No way! This is the biggest topic on TSC, and it's gonna stay that way. >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aitamen on April 24, 2006, 11:39:58 pm
WOOO!!!  *dances in own glory*

I'm a happy person.  Congrats to everyone on this list, deffinately.  Again, we're shown just how much Sonic we don't know ^_^.  My goal is perfection of these games, whoever's hands may do the deed!

But not only that, but props to all the people out there who didn't get on this list, for at least having the courage to post a few rec's and show your stuff to the world of TSC.

In Short, props to TSC!  THE BEST SPOT FOR SONIC!

and thanks, especially, go out to Mike, RPG, and SM... for making me able to trash all of their records ^_^
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Stardust Speedman on April 25, 2006, 04:32:11 pm
UNIVERSAL TOP 10

#10: sonicam
#9: douglas
#8: SS101
#7: F-Man
#6: SM
#5: Taco
#4: RPG
#3: eredani

*drumroll please*

#2: ...no one?
#1: Sprint/mike89 (This was our big surprise which was meant to be revealed today. It was the idea behind releasing the last two bios for each set on the same day, not so everyone knew the #1 a full day beforehand as was mentioned in the chat [though that did work favourably too]. Instead of attempting to split Sprint and myself, RPG suggested this solution. I thought it was fair.)
Who's Taco?! I think I've never heard or seen anything of him! I couldn't even find him in the member list! oO
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on April 25, 2006, 04:46:39 pm
Taco is NintenDan.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taco on April 25, 2006, 05:09:45 pm
I is Taco
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Stardust Speedman on April 26, 2006, 04:20:45 pm
Ooooooooooooh! OK, sorry! XP

But why Taco?!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on April 26, 2006, 04:52:08 pm
Because he tastes good with cheese.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on April 26, 2006, 08:29:23 pm
Because he tastes good with cheese.
I like my tacos with cheese, lettuce, salsa,and tequilla marinated chicken.:)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: DaDude on May 04, 2006, 08:00:46 pm
Aww...I didn't make it.

Then again, I haven't done much yet - but watch it - I'm coming.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on August 22, 2006, 10:14:05 pm
Okay, time to give this thing an update.

I would like to indicate at this stage that there will be a NEW FORMAT for the next top ten. I'm not sure just yet exactly what it will be, but the standard top ten format is not going to work any longer.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: maggot on August 22, 2006, 10:41:18 pm
How this whole thing works? (yeah, I'm a little lost in here...)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on August 23, 2006, 06:21:24 pm
I'm going to take a guess and predict that there might be a top 2D and top 3D division.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Buizel on August 23, 2006, 09:15:43 pm
Possibly, magnum, possibly.

I would even go so far as to say they would have many different Top 10s such as Top 10 TAers, SAers, etc., but that sounds like way too much work for them, especially considering how they never finished the bios for the last top ten (even though that was mostly RPG's fault... >_>).

Still, can't help but wonder what this 'new format' is gonna be...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taillow on August 24, 2006, 12:14:11 am
...but the standard top ten format is not going to work any longer.
And why not?  Out of curiosity.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on August 24, 2006, 06:47:23 am
All will be revealed in good time :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on August 24, 2006, 07:22:51 am
Possibly, magnum, possibly.

I would even go so far as to say they would have many different Top 10s such as Top 10 TAers, SAers, etc., but that sounds like way too much work for them, especially considering how they never finished the bios for the last top ten (even though that was mostly RPG's fault... >_>).

Still, can't help but wonder what this 'new format' is gonna be...

DON'T MENTION THE BIOS!  I mentioned them once but I think I got away with it.

</fawltytowers>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Marth on August 26, 2006, 04:51:37 pm
I would even go so far as to say they would have many different Top 10s such as Top 10 TAers, SAers, etc., but that sounds like way too much work for them, especially considering how they never finished the bios for the last top ten (even though that was mostly RPG's fault... >_>).
Hahaha! I'd kind of forgotten about that. I was going to post what I thought was said, but I figured
it'd be better to get the exact words by dragging up a quote from page 12 or wherever it was:

<Bio withheld>

What does this mean? Zonos! Find out soon.


--------------------------------------

The Top 10 list is coming up so quickly! When will it be... next month?
(I didn't pay attention to the dates on the earlier posts.)

It was right after the last Top 10, but don't forget all my Sonic R stuff.
That's right. I did all that between the last Top 10 and this one. :D
Count that with what little SA stuff I did (which I can still change, if I hurry), please.
and put me in the top 10, whether I beat all of F-Man's records or not
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Aere Alouette on September 01, 2006, 05:12:41 pm
I guess, even though it may be too late now, I have to pick up my controller again.

Hey, had to happen sooner or later. That plus I need a challenge.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on September 02, 2006, 09:42:48 am
DON'T MENTION THE BIOS!  I mentioned them once but I think I got away with it.

</fawltytowers>

That was the best episode ever.

"Me? You started it!
We did not start it!
Yes you did you invaded Poland!
<funnywalk>"
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on October 01, 2006, 02:13:48 am
Only a month left. I still predict the new format involves Top 3D, Top 2D, and Top Overall. I'd better submit some of my stats that I haven't recorded yet.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 01, 2006, 02:55:49 am
Oh yeah, about that, I probably should mention that I'll be unable to do this iteration of the top tens, due to the HSC.

I'll also reveal the division for this half-year: This version will cover the top ten statistics recorded on video.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Groudon on October 01, 2006, 09:16:26 am
I'm thinking maybe a Top Ranked for each game as well(or most games, like the ones with over 30 players, and it might vary between games for how many to list).  Then again, I'm just throwing my idea out in the open, so whether you agree with the idea or not is your decision.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 01, 2006, 04:44:55 pm
statistics based on vids huh...I guess I could start doing some heroes and riders stuff, but others might whip them out faster than I can.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 01, 2006, 07:01:43 pm
Maybe I'll do a few too (talking, pretending I know the whole story behind what's going on). :P

I could do Heroes and Riders also and maybe SA2B, Chaos, Triple Trouble, Drift 2, SA2B. But would they just be times or scores and rings as well?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: magnum12 on October 03, 2006, 08:14:02 pm
I'm not fond of this new format. It excludes tons of good records, is not nessecarily an accurate way to determine the best 10 players, and practically excludes everything that isn't time division.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Groudon on October 03, 2006, 08:24:38 pm
Hmm... I gotta agree.  If I want to get anywhere near at least a top 30 list, I'd have to upload a shitload of videos, some of which don't match my current best anymore.  Unfortunately, they'd have to be youtube links, and they all (except one) have added music.  Either the way I suggested or the original way are fine by me.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 04, 2006, 12:06:46 pm
I'm thinking maybe a Top Ranked for each game as well(or most games, like the ones with over 30 players, and it might vary between games for how many to list). 

That would be really dumb; we can just look at the rankings to find this out in an instant
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Groudon on October 04, 2006, 12:23:09 pm
But the current top 10 overall doesn't just list the names like:

Quote
#10. [user]
#9. [user]
#8. [user]

As it turns out, *gasp* there's descriptions of the player's dominance after they were listed in the top 10!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Taillow on October 11, 2006, 11:21:43 pm
Videos?  You're kidding right?  Not only does that exclude some times and records, it excludes people that can't record movies.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 12, 2006, 12:26:13 pm
Blame mike, it was his idea >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 12, 2006, 06:43:06 pm
Personally, I'm starting not to like this idea very much....
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: douglas on October 12, 2006, 07:03:00 pm
I think top 10 videos is a good idea, but ranking players by vids maybe not so much.  Maybe run both?

/me will have to get his finger out and start competing again if he wants to be in this time
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Bilan on October 12, 2006, 07:09:44 pm
it IS Top 10 videos <_<
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 12, 2006, 08:39:40 pm
Let me make this clear. We are not ranking players based on their vids.

We are ranking the vids themselves, and the level of skill shown therein.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 12, 2006, 09:29:27 pm
Let me make this clear. We are not ranking players based on their vids.

We are ranking the vids themselves, and the level of skill shown therein.

I understood that. It's just I find it to be.. well, not the greatest idea. And, as was mentioned earlier, quite a few members are at a disadvantage and they can't contribute to this portion.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Groudon on October 12, 2006, 09:32:10 pm
And pretty much the top 10 videos would have to be the 10 shortest ones.

I still kinda like my idea.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 12, 2006, 09:36:03 pm
And pretty much the top 10 videos would have to be the 10 shortest ones.

I still kinda like my idea.

Forget; what was your idea? :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Groudon on October 12, 2006, 09:37:18 pm
I'm thinking maybe a Top Ranked for each game as well(or most games, like the ones with over 30 players, and it might vary between games for how many to list).  Then again, I'm just throwing my idea out in the open, so whether you agree with the idea or not is your decision.

RPG said there already is one (the game ranks), but I pointed out the Top 10 TSC players isn't listed with just the player's names, but with a gaming description.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 12, 2006, 10:08:25 pm
And I still think it was stupid. And I'm running the show. So ha. :P

The fact of the matter is that a vid is a proven show of skill from a certain player. If you can't participate, that's unfortunate, but it's the nature of the beast. In general the best players have got vids to back themselves up anyway.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 12, 2006, 10:10:13 pm
Oh, right that. I kinda like that idea better as well. At least everyone has a chance, that way.

So yse, for the videos, when will the Top 10 be shown. Will it be more so the players with the most, well-done videos or just one video that proves a player's skill at a game? Also, does this mean, as I have the ability to take videos, I should start submitting some?

I'm stilll up in the louds surrounding this whole video thing I guess... :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: yse on October 15, 2006, 10:11:22 am
BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND...

TSC Top Tens: Third Birthday Edition!!

First I must apologise to everyone who's submitted a vid to date but didn't make it to this list. Knocking 450 vids down to 10 was never going to be easy, and as usual there'll be some controversial decisions. However I think all in all you'll mostly agree, and you can't call bias because neither me or RPG are represented in the list this time. :O

Now, without further ado... let us begin!

TSC'S GREATEST VIDS #10:
Sonic Adventure - Ice Cap - Tails - 1'31"85 [NintenDan]


This is the kind of vid that exemplifies what TSC is all about. While there isn't much to the level as a whole, somehow F-Man, all those years ago, sat eight seconds clear at the top of the pack. But in the spirit of friendly competition, NintenDan smashed the record by a full second, and proceeded to show the world exactly how it was done. The one jump, for those who haven't seen the video, that makes the time that much quicker is completely unexpected, and I assure you even the most experienced of TAers here at TSC went "whoa!" the first time they saw it.

Now I know some of you are going to say there's more than nine videos better than that - and I especially expect to hear this from people with more than nine videos to their name. But I don't care, cause it's our top ten and we're completely unbiased.

As usual, here goes the mysterious list:

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/IceCap%20Tails.wmv)
#9: ???
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

And yes, we will complete them this time. And by we i mean RPG. Because I probably won't be around as much for the next week or so (nor the three after that).

One last thing. The more astute (or more involved in the chat) among you will have noticed that this started a day late. I will ensure that RPG rectifies this situation immediately.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Crowbar on October 15, 2006, 10:16:33 am
I think this needs a new thread to itself.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: F-Man on October 15, 2006, 10:20:38 am
I totally agree with the video you decided to choose to start the top 10. This time is Nintendan's only record left in SA, and for a good reason; it is simply awesome. Even vidded, no one has managed to beat it yet.

Congrats Ninty!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2006, 10:54:23 am
TSC'S GREATEST VIDS #9:

Sonic Adventure 2:Battle - Cosmic Wall - Mission 1 - Score - 170990 [Psyknux]


Awesome. No other word I can really think of. This vid really showed TSC exactly what PK was capable of; decimating anything and everything. As many of you know I held the CW Score records for a long time, and I really wouls never have predicted that the score could go as high as 170K, and Im sure many people went ":O" upon seeing tis majestic piece of Sonic (Eggman?) mastery.

Congratulations PK on earning yourself spot #9~

One continuation of the mystery list :o~

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/IceCap%20Tails.wmv)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/Psyknux_CW1s_170990.wmv)
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Next update tomorrow~

(modhax: Mysterious Lists updated with links to vids for the lazy)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 15, 2006, 10:57:11 am
^^ That score is simply amazing. Definitely worthy on the list. Congrats! And you too # 10, let's not forget you. :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: douglas on October 15, 2006, 10:57:46 am
:O just seen Taco's vid for the first time . . . blimey.  I'm betting it's not the last time he's on here either.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 15, 2006, 11:06:05 am
Ok so speculative 1-8.

8) So-and-So's Cannon's Core (SA2, someone's probably vidded it)
7) Nintendan's Leaf Forest 1 (Sonic Advance 2, I remember how ':O' everyone was when he pulled it off)
6) SM's Oil Ocean 1 (Sonic 2)
5)  F-Man's (Sonic) Final Egg (Maybe Sonic's IceCap? Probably not though, considering Ninty's Ice Cap is there too)
4) Sprint's Palmtree Panic (Sonic CD)
3) SM's Security Hall (SA2, maybe some other hunting level)
2) Cybrax's Metal Harbor (SA2)
1) Cybrax's Green Hill (SA2B)

Comment. Now.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 15, 2006, 11:23:41 am
Okay.

You're wrong.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: F-Man on October 15, 2006, 11:23:50 am
5)  F-Man's (Sonic) Final Egg (Maybe Sonic's IceCap? Probably not though, considering Ninty's Ice Cap is there too)

Comment. Now.
Oh please no. Both those vids don't show any skill.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 15, 2006, 11:27:40 am
Well, I'm pretty sure Cybrax's Green Hill video will be #1, since it's a video of the longest standing TSC record.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: X-5 on October 15, 2006, 02:42:51 pm
How could Cybrax's metal harbor make the #2 spot? 1:21 isn't THAT great, maybe his 1:16 could though, if there was a video of it.


I just got around to watching Psyknux's Cosmic wall video, because I never even knew it was there before- simply amazing,soo many "Perfects" and so many enemies I never even knew about. nice job and congrats on making #9!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 15, 2006, 03:43:37 pm
Those 2 are kickass and if your going to do a score vid, that would be a great example with a super high score like that to represent.  Just shows that SAing can be just as tough as TAing. 

*goes to see Ninty Ice Cap*
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 15, 2006, 03:44:47 pm
Also I predict Yoshifan's Westopolis vid to be in there somewhere...even if the game isn't liked much around here.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: magnum12 on October 15, 2006, 03:49:21 pm
I predict that Grand Metropolis (Dark) and Cosmic Fall (Hero) will make it. The later because it represents mastry of the most challenging level in ShtH.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 15, 2006, 08:33:50 pm
The Westopolis vid probably should be in, since IMO it's insanely hard to do what he did.
Grand Metro might as well, since that's probably as good as anyone will get for a long time.
Cosmic Fall, I'm not entirely sure about it.

And if Cybrax's Green Hill video isn't near the top, I'll call BS.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 15, 2006, 09:18:11 pm
I predict that Grand Metropolis (Dark) and Cosmic Fall (Hero) will make it. The later because it represents mastry of the most challenging level in ShtH.

I wouldn't be surprised for the GM one for Heroes. That also shows skill w/o using TBG!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 15, 2006, 10:50:19 pm
if I had a chance to redo cosmic fall (either of them) I would.  later after I did it and it popped up here, I knocked off 5 more sec from it and told yoshifan about it.

otherwise it just shows how going to fast can hurt in that game sometimes (among other things).  its still good for what I was showing, but I had myself fall in a black hole that wasn't shown in the vid.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 16, 2006, 02:38:56 am
TSC'S GREATEST VIDEOS #8:
Sonic Advance - Egg Rocket 1 - Knuckles - 2'26"17 [NintenDan]


That's two for Taco. Somehow he has a knack of making some really incredible videos. A few things work in favour of this particular vid:
* it's long - an impressive 2'30 vid will always be seen as better than an impressive 0'30 one
* as with anything Taco, the quality is impeccable.
* it doesn't use Sonic, so it at least gave people a chance to catch up. Taco is known for his impossibly fast airdash finger, which put him streets ahead on Sonic Advance 1 and 2.
* and most importantly, it incorporates just about every aspect of Knuckles' play and the quirks of Sonic Advance into the vid. The punch-spindash combination. Strange properties of moving platforms. Even a superglide! It's all there.

Now it's time for the MYSTERIOUS LIST OF MYSTERY~

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/Egg%20Rocket%20Knux.wmv)
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Back tomorrow with #7!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Taco on October 16, 2006, 03:11:39 am
:O

kewlness

Aitaman is a better airdasher then me though :/

Also, I'm still not really sure why IC Tails is in the top 10, but tis your call
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 16, 2006, 08:12:53 pm
^^ Congrats! Two vids on the chart, you must be proud, huh? :)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: douglas on October 16, 2006, 08:37:32 pm
I'm betting there's another to come as well.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 16, 2006, 09:06:42 pm
^^ I know, eh? :D
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 17, 2006, 02:28:09 am
In direct contradiction of this statement:

Quote from: me
an impressive 2'30 vid will always be seen as better than an impressive 0'30 one

here's #7:

TSC'S GREATEST VIDS #7
Knuckles Chaotix - Isolated Island 1 - 23"42 [Thorn]


Okay, it's an easy level. No enemies or any such things to dodge. Minimal (ab)use of game physics. But this is about the closest video you'll see on the site to something that is perfect. The moment of the run is towards the end, a perfect jump from side-on onto a right-facing spring, resuming running at full pace.

I'm already running out of things to call this list...

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/II1.wmv)
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Maybe tomorrow I'll let RPG do one of these.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Taco on October 17, 2006, 04:12:30 am
Just watched the other 2 vids

I can't believe I never bothered watching that Cosmic Wall video, that was simply fucking awesome. Also, now I know where the golden beetle is

I've never played knuckles chaotix, so I really had no idea what was going on, but you did zip through the level fast as hell, so I found it entertaining as well

nice job Psyknux and Thorn!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Thorn on October 17, 2006, 03:24:26 pm
Whoa, you've gotta be shitting me.
*takes a cookie*
Mmm, that's my second one today.  Is there a limit on how many I can take, they're sooooo good...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 17, 2006, 03:54:26 pm
In direct contradiction of this statement:

Quote from: me
an impressive 2'30 vid will always be seen as better than an impressive 0'30 one

here's #7:

TSC'S GREATEST VIDS #7
Knuckles Chaotix - Isolated Island 1 - 23"42 [Thorn]


Okay, it's an easy level. No enemies or any such things to dodge. Minimal (ab)use of game physics. But this is about the closest video you'll see on the site to something that is perfect. The moment of the run is towards the end, a perfect jump from side-on onto a right-facing spring, resuming running at full pace.

I'm already running out of things to call this list...

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/II1.wmv)
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Maybe tomorrow I'll let RPG do one of these.

Congrats, Thorn.. That vid really does deserve a place on the Top 10. This movie really is important; the first movie that introduced me to KC. Thanks again for such a great vid.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Marth on October 17, 2006, 09:18:38 pm
Aww, I'm missing all the excitement. (I'd better be sure not to just skip visiting a forum again.)

I'm guessing that something of F-Man's will show up in the Top 10, but I can't be sure if they'll be noticed.
I mean, there are a lot of games and a lot of videos to choose from.
Anyway, Final Egg shows an insane glitch done extremely well. (Just how extremely
I can't be sure, though, until I get Dreamcast.) But I hope my Sonic Casinopolis video will show up, too.
It's not all that great, but it's a classic! It shows me fighting a version disadvantage.
And the move it introduced was used to make Final Egg in 9 seconds possible.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Buizel on October 17, 2006, 11:27:41 pm
Wow, I stop coming here for a week and I miss all this excitement. Blame my computer; it died. >:(
(On the plus side, I have a much better computer now! :D)

Thanks to everyone who congratulated me on my Cosmic Wall 1 vid. It's not the best quality video, but 22MB is big enough (although I have a 33MB vid that's a bit smoother).

Also, it's quite possible to score more points; if you look at the vid I waste a little bit of time collecting all the rings on the fifth platform in order to get 20 rings at the checkpoint... >_>

...and I also missed a 10-ring capsule that was in plain view near the end... <_<

...also there are two (three?) enemies near the first checkpoint that I missed (off to the right; most people probably don't know they're there)... >_>

...and I could've gone a little faster overall... <_<

...I think I'll stop now. >_>

Although I will mention that it's possible to do MUCH better due to a glitch (which would allow for 'infinite' score...). :o
/me mysterious :o

TSC'S GREATEST VIDS #9:

Sonic Adventure 2:Battle - Cosmic Wall - Mission 1 - Score - 170990 [Psyknux]


Awesome. No other word I can really think of.

I don't remember getting any Awesomes in that run. >_>
/me run
(Though I believe I got every other type of tech bonus at least once.)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 18, 2006, 04:47:45 am
RPG if you're reading this you're a bastard and I hate you.

Now that that's out of the way, here's #6!

TSC'S GREATEST VIDEOS #6
Sonic Adventure 2 - Final Chase 1 - 2'33"10 [F-Man]


What is there to be said? It beat a standing record by about 15 seconds. There's skipping of just about everything, fighting horrible camera angles, and death-defying jumps... and that's all in the first 30 seconds!

Oh and by the way that is the greatest luck I have ever seen on those vertical barrels. Not one random stop! I call BS!

Congrats to F-Man for getting a vid up on the list - obviously there's not many who will. I'd like to think it's some sort of honour.

<<The List Without A Name>>

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC)
#6: Final Chase 1 (SA2B) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/finalchase_fman23310.avi)
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 18, 2006, 06:50:29 am
That really was a lucky run F-Man had.  I always end up randomly stopping on at least one barrel.  And not many people can still get exactly where they want to go with the horrible camera angles.  That was a good choice for #6.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 18, 2006, 10:59:33 am
RPG if you're reading this you're a bastard and I hate you.

I cant remember the order >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: X-5 on October 18, 2006, 02:02:33 pm
Yeah, that's why I hate FC because I stop for no reason all over and place and end up with a terrible time, congrats on making #6 on this nameless list!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 18, 2006, 06:25:36 pm
That really was a lucky run F-Man had.  I always end up randomly stopping on at least one barrel.  And not many people can still get exactly where they want to go with the horrible camera angles.  That was a good choice for #6.

It sure was - on both parts. :)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 19, 2006, 05:20:26 pm
Couple things.

#1. When will the #5 video be chosen?
#2. Oddly enough, I joined TSC on TSC's 2nd anniversary.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 19, 2006, 05:22:54 pm
Couple things.

#1. When will the #5 video be chosen?

Can't wait either... and your second thing is quite interesting. Funny, actually. :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 19, 2006, 05:31:41 pm
So you want #5, eh?

Yeah well I forgot and Im tired and Im going to sleep, so you'll get #5 AND #4 tomorrow :O
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Aitamen on October 19, 2006, 05:45:22 pm
I'm not a better air-dasher, Taco... if I was, it wouldn't have taken me a week solid of playing a single level to take that score... and I would've taken more of that game... you pwn in me a hat at that... and you deserve at least that!

Also, here's the part where I give MAD props to all the above peoples...

MAD PROPS TO THE ABOVE PEOPLE!

Be well... I miss you guys... and, as always...

GAME ON!!!!

The Aitamen, Dustin Delacroix
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: F-Man on October 19, 2006, 05:54:30 pm
So you want #5, eh?

Yeah well I forgot and Im tired and Im going to sleep, so you'll get #5 AND #4 tomorrow :O
yeah I'm sure
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Taco on October 19, 2006, 06:20:48 pm
I am in agreement with F-man's statement
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Buizel on October 19, 2006, 06:33:43 pm
As am I.

(p.s. hi Aitamen!)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 20, 2006, 11:03:20 am
Yeah well FUCK YOU ALL :O

TSC'S GREATEST VIDEOS #5
Sonic 3D Blast- Green Grove 1 - 0:51 [SprintGod]

Shocking, eh? That the video for the halfway point in this Top 10 List comes from the somewhat underrated Sonic 3D Blast. "Why?" I hear you say? Oh, you didn't, no explanation necessary then >_>

On a serious note, this video is in the list for a number of reasons. It owns. Hard. Sure, you can argue that its not a difficult level, but then how hard is Isolated Island 1? Its practically untouchable. Now I wouldnt say I am totally awesome at S3DB, but GG1 was one of my best acts (I do believe I still hae 2nd although I havent checked lately) and I cannot touch this time. Thirdly, S3DB's controls are pretty awkward in terms of precise manouverability, earning this video fame for atleast the next year!

And now :O

TSC'S GREATEST VIDEOS #4
Shadow the Hedgehog - Westopolis - Normal - 1:20:31 [yoshifan]

Again, you may be thinking why. Its because it showed us exactly how fast Shadow could go, and tore the level open. I really have no idea what else to say here, its like poetry in motion, Im running out of phrases describe the complete awesomeness of this video. Go watch it. Now. Thats the best justice I can surely give it.

<<The List That Was Without A Name>>

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC)
#6: Final Chase 1 (SA2B)
#5: Green Grove 1 (S3DB)
#4: Westopolis Normal (Shadow)
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Buizel on October 20, 2006, 01:12:59 pm
zomg, he actually did it.
Let's give him a hand, folks! >_>
...although you really ought to link to the vids in your post...I wasted precious seconds having to find them myself... >_>

Congrats to Sprint and yoshifan for having the #5 and #4 vids. Westopolis in particular looked very impressive.

On a side note...when are you going to finish the "rating system" for SA2(B) that you said you were going to do 7 months ago? >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: F-Man on October 20, 2006, 01:47:14 pm
See, by acting skeptical, and having people following, I convinced him to do it.

It was all a strategy! And it worked! >_>

But srsly, nice vids. I see you guys are aiming for diversity. I'm hoping for another SA vid...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 20, 2006, 02:21:28 pm
I was going to do it anyway >_>

Also PK: Right after I finish TSCA. Which is slated for release the very same day that Duke Nukem Forever will be released!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 20, 2006, 02:35:48 pm
I'll check out the S3DB one later, but I definitely agree at yoshifan's Westopolis video being up there.  That's probably as perfect as anyone can get.  It seems like a video that could be duplicated, but would be very difficult, since no one's come close to 1:20 (in yoshifan's strat comment, he said it took him 7 hours to get what was shown in the video).

So does the list have a name now, since it "Was Without A Name"?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 20, 2006, 02:59:24 pm
glad Westopolis made it...just shows how the stage would go if everything worked.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yoshifan on October 21, 2006, 01:01:19 am
Wow, didn't expect Westopolis to be so high on the list.  I honestly didn't think it would make it after seeing some of the other choices.

And congratulations to everyone else who made the list.  Until this idea came about, I hadn't thought much about the sheer number of great videos on the site; there are easily more than 50 that would really impress me.  I'm looking forward to seeing what the top 3 choices will be.

Also, thanks to everyone for the support.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 21, 2006, 01:06:10 am
As usual, there comes a point where we approach the end of the list. The list has already thrown up a couple of great videos, while here in the top three are probably the standouts from TSC's three years.

Here's #3! I believe this one was foreshadowed by douglas earlier... if you missed it, here it is.

TSC's GREATEST VIDEOS #3
Sonic Advance 2 - Leaf Forest 1 - Sonic - 29"75 [NintenDan]


If you never wanted a rubber thumb, I bet you did after watching this. This is the best example on the site of NintenDan's incredible airdash thumb which nobody seems to be able to match. According to Sprint, he should be banned for ignoring relativity or something.

Of course, even once you can do that, you have to have a path, hold boost mode, and make best use of your airdashes, and as usual NintenDan does this with absolutely no trouble. And of course he broke the magical 30 second barrier which nobody could or has done.

Congratulations to Taco (again!)

<<The List With A Name That RPG Won't Tell Me>>

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC)
#6: Final Chase 1 (SA2B)
#5: Green Grove 1 (S3DB)
#4: Westopolis Normal (Shadow)
#3: Leaf Forest 1 Sonic (SAdva2) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/Leaf%20Forest%20Zone%201%20Sonic.wmv)
#2: ???
#1: ???

Slight changeup here. So that you don't know #1 for a full day, RPG and I will each do one of the top two on the 23rd. Just as a hint, I'm going to tell you that we'll be showcasing the very best of 2D and 3D on TSC's third birthday. Anyone care to take guesses at what more is left? (I should've done this earlier >_>)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: magnum12 on October 21, 2006, 02:39:44 am
#2: Aero Egg (SAdv2)
#1: Green Hill (SA:2)
Let's hope the next format is a little more inclusive, such as top 2D and 3D players.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 21, 2006, 02:53:38 am
Aero Egg doesn't look likely at all, as it's only 5.58 on a level where 5.50 has been many times achieved.  I'd make a 5.50 video, but it would require that I get a VBA save file that has boss mode unlocked (all emeralds with 2 characters).

mike89 said he was looking for longstanding times.  Something like my Oil Ocean 1 comes to mind.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: douglas on October 21, 2006, 06:15:40 am
I will eat my own foot if it's Aero egg*.  Even if it was a 5:50, it's only one well-timed jump as opposed to the millions present in all these other vids.

Nice one Taco, definitely deserved.  Iono what the last ones'll be because they're likely 3D ones, and you might've noticed that's not my field >_>.

*if you change it just to see me eat my foot, this doesn't count
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 21, 2006, 08:54:20 am
Coincidentally, I decided to check out this video yesterday, and today, it's placed at #3.  The video rocks, even though I don't have the game.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 21, 2006, 09:03:43 am
Green Hill for first is a given. It's a combination of all the techniques needed to do well in SA2. Which is true about most SA2 vids. But I mean Cybrax's Green Hill is insane.

As for 2D, I'd say either SM's Oil Ocean or Sprint's Palmtree Panix. Neither have been represented thusfar. I'm leaning towards Oil Ocean because of Sonic 2 nostalgia, but there's also Sprint's 100% championship to consider. Or maybe the time/score is from Sonic 1 to throw us all off. But I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 22, 2006, 10:30:19 am
That Leaf Forest movie was an excellent vid. Congrats, once again, NintenDan. You must have a really good reputation now from this Top 10, eh?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 22, 2006, 11:25:15 pm
Cy's Green Hill is #1 easily. I mean, it's one of the oldest vids on the site, and yet it's NEVER been beaten.

/me mauled for speculation
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Groudon on October 23, 2006, 06:41:18 am
I don't think anyone has any doubt that video will be #1.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 23, 2006, 07:26:47 am
Okay. This list went through plenty of revisions in the 20 minutes it took me to whip it up. But after careful consideration, the best of the 2D vids on the site is...

TSC'S GREATEST VIDEOS #2

Hidden Palace Knuckles
Aquatic Ruin 1 Knuckles
Neo South Island 1
Aero Egg Sonic
...

Sonic 3 - Carnival Night 2 - Sonic - 2:27 [SadisticMystic]

(20 invisible cool points to yoshifan for picking this correctly in the chat.)

This video is perhaps the best example of perseverance, planning and outright skill that you'll ever see. (Okay, one beats it for skill.)

Perhaps a quick summary will suffice. At the first checkpoint, you need exactly 35 rings (because there are only that many on the path) to get a water shield from the check, which is required to survive the >30 seconds that you will spend in the water. Later, you have to lose that shield to use the Insta-Shield ability to gain access to an area you shouldn't be able to get into, coming from underneath two 10-ring boxes. And finally, you then need to be within the ring range for another lightning shield before the boss, and bounce on it for eight (and I discovered while trying to replicate this run that it's not as easy as it seems) hits. Legend has it he took over three hours of constant recording to pull it off - and in doing so, beat the existing record (his own) by TWENTY NINE SECONDS.

The run itself contains SM's so called Stupid Shield Tricks in abundance, including but not limited to ring collecting, double jumps, and a kamikaze dive past two barrels; a couple of (to the untrained eye) unexpected shortcuts, and just to prove that SM really is human, a few little mistakes scattered about the place.

And most importantly of all, nobody who watches the video will ever forget how to get past the Barrel of Doom.

Congrats to SM on securing #2!

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC)
#6: Final Chase 1 (SA2B)
#5: Green Grove 1 (S3DB)
#4: Westopolis Normal (Shadow)
#3: Leaf Forest 1 Sonic (SAdva2)
#2: Carnival Night 2 Sonic (S3) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/2-7-8-1-14700.avi)
#1: ???

Now, it's time to CROSS LIVE AMERICAN LIVE TO RPG for the revealing of the #1 selection...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 23, 2006, 07:53:13 am
A bit of clarification:
-There are more than 35 rings on the path I chose, but I only went for the 35 most direct ones.  It's worth noting that the lightning shield carried over from act 1 is required to get those rings in any decent speed.
-I think this is a good demonstration of the checkpoint resetting the subseconds, another facet that saves a small amount of time.  You obviously can't really plan for it, but my first checkpoint was either 0:23.97 or 0:23.99 (the wonders of old 15fps recordings), making for near-maximum benefit from entering the bonus stage.  The timing at the second bonus stage didn't turn out nearly so well, but again whether you get a high or low second is beyond your control most of the time.
-The "area you shouldn't be able to get into" isn't in fact so; it was an intended alternate path, via jumping from the barrel and hitting the underside of the boxes normally to make them drop down then squeezing through the gap.  Sprint's TAS shows you can even jump through it while retaining the shield without losing time, but I still maintain that it's much easier to do with the intentional hit thrown in.
-Being in the proper ring range to get the ability to get a lightning shield in bonus stage 2 isn't that bad; you have odds 2/3 in your favor.  What really sucks is when you get that far into the run and then fail to get a lightning shield even when the stage allows for one.  Getting the hits with a water shield is much harder.
-If legend has it that I recorded for over 3 hours to get that record, then legend is wrong.  I finished the successful run 9 minutes before I would have hit that mark.
-This confirms that, as I inquired a while ago, these videos are ranked based on run quality rather than visual quality.  CN2 was put up in low-quality form because the alternative was something that's 36MB.  Maybe I'll try to get a reduced file size without losing too much quality and put that run up.  Or I could attempt the whole level over again and try to beat 2:27...yeah, not likely.  [EDIT] After solving a problem in Avidemux that swapped the U and V chromas of imported video files, I managed to export to H.264 and cut the file down from 36MB to 9.  It looks much better than the WMV version, so I've updated the link.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 23, 2006, 08:29:32 am
A big hand to SM for correcting every single aspect of the run that I forgot/got wrong. And since you all seem so set on what #1 is, I'll do the honourable mentions now.

I did the honourable mentions a bit differently this time. In this case it's not so much videos that deserved entry into the top ten (because there's just too many of those to count)... Rather, I've picked out videos that have a distinct quirk. Here goes:

Eternal Engine 1 - SM (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/2-4-13-1-15464.wmv) - I think I should get this one out of the way. You might be feeling a bit ripped off because I described SM's vid of the same level as one of the most outstanding ones a year ago. However, I personally think that after seeing three or four iterations of what are essentially the same vid with more refining each time, it's pretty well old hat. Sorry about that. (Psyknux's EE5 would rate a similar mention, but it was submitted after the 14th and therefore wasn't eligible for selection.)

Chemical (http://sonic.tcpmusic.com/content/CPZ_01_Rings.avi) Plant 1 (http://www.soniccenter.org/ARRPEEGEE/Chemical%20Plant%201-Knux-24.avi) - Both the rings vid and RPG's Knuckles vid are breaches of TSC rules - and are in fact the only vids on the site which are, on the same level! The rings vid is a TAS (but it looks pretty cool), and the Knuckles vid actually doesn't finish the level, he dies during the tallying of points. Ironically, if he got a lesser time bonus he could've survived. X)

Aquatic Ruin 1 Knuckles - mike89 (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/11-6-5-2-2400.wmv) - For having the lowest frame-to-time ratio of any vid on the site. (Per RPG's request)

Cannon's Core 1 - Blaze (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/blaze_CannonsCore1_13202.wmv) - For having the highest real time to game time ratio of any vid on the site - 7 minutes real time (apparently with more cut out!) to 1:32 game time. And no, SM's hunting vids don't count.

Security Hall 2 - yoshifan (http://www.soniccenter.org/schan/SecurityHall2_yoshifan_44-44.wmv) - Because it's 44"44. And times like that are pro.

Death Egg 1 - yoshifan (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/29-8-11-1-13900.wmv) - One of those odd vids which presents an entirely new route while being minimally optimised - but all the while, nobody was able to beat it! It took two years before eredani finally knocked it over.

Green (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/36-5-1-1-2500-hi.avi) Hill (http://sonicwr.free.fr/legogo/vid/legogo_ghz1.wmv) 1 (0:25) (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/raziel-sth1ghz1_0025.avi) - Why are there so many of these? One day I'm going to have to record 24 and obsolete the lot.

Final Egg - F-Man (http://fman.no-ip.org:8080/ta/sa/Final%20Egg%20(Sonic)%20-%20F-Man%20-%200.08.63.avi) - For sheer WTF value, this takes the cake. Who would have imagined there would be a capsule in the middle of nowhere at the beginning of the stage - and better yet, that someone would be able to reach it?

Red Mountain - F-Man (http://fman.no-ip.org:8080/ta/sa/Red%20Mountain%20(Sonic)%20-%20F-Man%20-%201.00.05.avi) - For getting oh-so-close to that magical 1 minute barrier. (He later beat it, though.)

Neo South Island 1 - mike89 (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/SPA%20-%20NSI1%20-%202478.avi) - Because it's a vid. For SPA. Which nobody cares about. It's proven, you know.

Dishonourable mentions go to Groudon and KS8 to putting vids on Youtube and Google Video in favour of TSC. Shame on you.

And as soon as RPG confirms what you all know, it'll be time to pack away the Top Tens for another six months. We hope you've enjoyed this edition of the list, and we'll have another list whipped up for you some time in April.

In the meantime, have fun and DON'T DO DRUGS keep on gaming!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 23, 2006, 10:26:24 am
Ok guys, its finally here, the moment you've all been waiting for.

TSC's GREATEST VIDEO, IS.....

Anything submitted for Sonic Riders

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Sonic Adventure....

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2:Battle....


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Green Hill - 0:26:47 [cybrax]

Bet you didnt see that coming, eh? Everyone knows why this video is #1, its the longest standing record on the site for one, the route execution is simply beautiful and the timing is masterful. This video surely showcases cybrax's skills to us at his absolute best, and its nothing short of absolutely breathtaking.

Congrats to cybrax for taking home the gold!

#10: Ice Cap Tails (SA)
#9: Cosmic Wall Mission 1 Score (SA2B)
#8: Egg Rocket 1 Knuckles (SAdva)
#7: Isolated Island 1 (KC)
#6: Final Chase 1 (SA2B)
#5: Green Grove 1 (S3DB)
#4: Westopolis Normal (Shadow)
#3: Leaf Forest 1 Sonic (SAdva2)
#2: Carnival Night 2 Sonic (S3)
#1: Green Hill (SA2B)

Well, thats it again, watch out for another Top 10 in 6 months!

~RPG & yse
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 23, 2006, 01:27:40 pm
that vid is probably my oldest sonic vid I still have after I deleted his other old SA2 vids.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 23, 2006, 03:37:04 pm
Well we finally made it guys. Congrats to everyone, especially cybrax for making the top spot!

Oh, and RPG, your introductory comment was jkz. Lol. :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Marth on October 24, 2006, 08:35:52 pm
Congratulations to everyone who won. :D And at least one SA video got in.


Also, yse forgot something. :( *sniff*  /me cries
Hint: it's a classic. It fights a version difference...
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 24, 2006, 10:57:51 pm
Marth, your credit and hardwork on SA1 hasn't gone unoticed by me.
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: yse on October 27, 2006, 04:31:17 am
Congratulations to everyone who won. :D And at least one SA video got in.


Also, yse forgot something. :( *sniff*  /me cries
Hint: it's a classic. It fights a version difference...

OSNAP!

How could I forget Casinopolis!

I suppose I give an honourable mention to SM's 12"81 then. After all, yours was twice as long, it obviously doesn't deserve recognition! X)
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Taillow on October 27, 2006, 04:40:21 am
Yeah, congrats and stuff.  Still, it would have been nice to see a traditional top 10.  After all, you could have done that along with a gimmick one, right?  Or am I missing something that's stopping you from that?
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic videos in TSC's history! [IN COUNTDOWN MODE]
Post by: Bilan on October 27, 2006, 09:05:15 am
Idlitis is a terrible affliction
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: magnum12 on March 06, 2007, 12:19:35 pm
Since that time of year is coming up, we need to come up with some categories for the next top 10. I've got a few. Good thing this thread is stickied or else I'd be punished for animating dead topics.
1. Best 2D player.
2. Best 3D player.
3. Best Overall (no brainer) category.
4. Most famous TSC rivalries. (Players, the game in which the rivalry took place in, and why it was famous.)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on March 06, 2007, 07:06:29 pm
I like that last one.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on March 06, 2007, 07:20:54 pm
But mike we win that by a landslide surely. <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Ring Rush on March 06, 2007, 09:35:03 pm
Top 10 Record Crushs (records that pummel all existing records into the ground)
Top 10 Records-out-of-nowhere (seemingly maxed levels suddenly and shockingly get a new record)
Top 10 Non-TA records (Amazing SA/RA feats)
Top 10 Boss records (BAs)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on March 06, 2007, 10:44:11 pm
I still say there should be a normal top ten.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on March 12, 2007, 09:49:03 pm
With Overall Rankings up I don't think a regular top ten would carry too many surprises.

Current front runner is the rivalries idea.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on March 19, 2007, 08:19:07 am
I have an announcement to make!

The April top ten category will be... the Top Ten Titanic Tussles!

Alliteration ftw.

Each day, RPG or I will name two (or more) players and a game, and give a bit of history on the duel that took place on that game between the players. There's bound to be some classic memories revived here!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on March 19, 2007, 02:40:46 pm
Great!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 13, 2007, 12:18:49 am
I think people should start speculating soon. >_>

See, I can do alliteration too. <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on April 14, 2007, 05:09:27 am
Here we go again!

TSC Top Ten Titanic Tussles!

For the sake of clarification, this refers to championship-level rivalries only. TSC's scoring system doesn't allow good rivalries to emerge below 60% anyway (sparring over one level does not count), and the championship ones are more memorable anyway.

Now, I know you're all going to ask where's the "real" top ten. Well I say: here it is! (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sitewide)

As I've been computer-deprived for the past week I'm going to wait for RPG to consult with me on the list I've made up, but as soon as that happens one of us will release the #10 Titanic Tussle.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on April 14, 2007, 07:47:18 am
I officially declare this iteration of the top tens... OPEN! Whether RPG likes it or not.

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #10
SkyLights vs Crowbar (Sonic Rush)


Possibly not the most inspired selection to open proceedings, but these two have been gunning at each other on Rush almost since the game's addition to TSC. SkyLights was the first competitor to really learn the tactics, paths and tricks of the game, then Crowbar leeched off all his good work and took the game to new levels. However, due to Crowbar's lack of expertise outside time and score divisions, SkyLights's more rounded abilities have allowed him to maintain a comfortable championship lead.

Thanks to the two of them Sonic Rush competition has taken off in the past six months with new competitors such as SDM, Auriman1 and myself joining in the fun.

Crowbar held the championship for a short period last year, but I think it's fair to say this rivalry is so far decisively in favour of SkyLights. With Crowbar not making many moves towards getting the championship back, it looks quite safe in SkyLights's hands. Perhaps he's secretly gunning for the longest held championship on the site?

CURRENT LEADER: SkyLights got a KO in the sixth round, but Crowbar got style points in the meantime for his colourful vids. :)

The Mysterious List

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: ??? vs ???
#8: ??? vs ???
#7: ??? vs ???
#6: ??? vs ???
#5: ??? vs ???
#4: ??? vs ???
#3: ??? vs ???
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???

Once we get up to #6, somebody please remind me to make people guess at the top five. I've forgotten about it the past two top tens and consequently it's been left way too late.

Of course, you can still speculate. In fact I highly suggest you do.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Crowbar on April 14, 2007, 08:12:30 am
Wow, sweet.

Yeah, I have kinda stopped playing lately. Apart from the fact that I honestly haven't had time, SL's just been getting stats I really feel I can't compete with. :( Not to mention SDM pwning it up too.

Though maybe come summer I'll give it another bash...we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 14, 2007, 08:15:39 pm
TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #9
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)


Seriously guys, hands up who doesn't remember the epic battle between these two SA2B powerhouses from the good ol' days? In one corner, we had the long established king of SA2B, and in the other we had a newcomer who was smashing records left right and center. I for one can distinctly recall raykus hold on EVERY SINGLE Shadow level time. I know this because I tried to take Final Chase from him with little success.

Unless my memory is very much mistaken, back when these two were duking it out 'full time', the Championshup used to change daily, if not multiple times per day, squabbles over levels to maintain a lead would go back and forth like wild fire. Its a damn shame neither of them are still active in SA2B, who knows what they'd've done to the poor game if  they still were? As it stands, their stats (and specifically totals) now stand as benchmarks for people to aim for, although to this day, their not easy targets, in fact I think they both might have a record or two each possibly somewhere, and if not first, a fair few stats very high up.

Statistically, this is a VERY tough one to call. Cybrax has held the Championship for longer than Rayku altogether, however, Rayku was ahead when Score and Rings were given weightings and cybrax slid down the table at that point. As it stands, I am VERY close to calling it a tie, however

CURRENT LEADER: Rayku, after being the underdog initially and being behind for a number of rounds, finally got the upperhand on cybrax and dished out a KO. Obviously not taking into account that Rayku removed all his stats. :/

The List of which is of a Mystery

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: ??? vs ???
#7: ??? vs ???
#6: ??? vs ???
#5: ??? vs ???
#4: ??? vs ???
#3: ??? vs ???
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???

And on an unrelated note, Crowbars vids are awesome. I still have the Altitude Limit 2 vid you made for me :D
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Magnezone on April 15, 2007, 12:32:47 am
Though maybe come summer I'll give it another bash...we'll just have to wait and see.
I'm all for it. Rush competition in general is rather boring now without SDM prodding me on the Score/Ring fronts, and sonicandamy just isn't very fun to compete with at all >_> (And I'm still not happy you nabbed WP1-S from me <_<)

But sometime, we should race to get sub 44 minutes overall X)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Crowbar on April 15, 2007, 07:54:30 am
I'm all for it. Rush competition in general is rather boring now without SDM prodding me on the Score/Ring fronts, and sonicandamy just isn't very fun to compete with at all >_> (And I'm still not happy you nabbed WP1-S from me <_<)

But sometime, we should race to get sub 44 minutes overall X)

Yeah well I'm certainly not happy that you and Auriman took LS2-S, and ESPECIALLY not happy SDM took LS1-S. >:(  Those are definitely going down some time.

I also need to poke more holes in your records on all the later levels.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on April 15, 2007, 09:20:10 pm
TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #8
SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (Sonic Heroes)


One of the site's great rivalries which started way back from the Great Downtime. magnum12 had finally removed the championship from Kev's iron fist when two young upstarts by the names of eredani and sonicam launched their assault. Evenly matched throughout their run up the rankings, they traded blows and the championship many times a day during sonicam's peak hatred of SADX. For a long time they both sat at around the 700 point mark... and then Shadow Jacky came along.

SJ owns most of the time chart now, but was once a terrible boss player. When he was alerted to the fact that he could be champion with a bit of work on them, he rolled his boss times and became the champ. sonicam dropped off the pace, but eredani was not letting the fight go, and SJ and eredani remain at the pinnacle of the chart today with incredible percentages of 96%+.

CURRENT LEADER: Too close to call. It's not sonicam, but you could make a case for either of the other two.

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: ??? vs ???
#6: ??? vs ???
#5: ??? vs ???
#4: ??? vs ???
#3: ??? vs ???
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Waxwings on April 15, 2007, 10:17:36 pm
I'm off for a while and I miss this.

:/

I'll be watching when I have Internet access.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 15, 2007, 11:17:35 pm
Wouldn't surprise me to see PB/RPG (S06) or PB/Groudon/YF/SJ (Shadow), but meh, I thought they were both lower than even Crowbar/SkyLights. (No mention of BenB17 who was up there for a while as well?)

F-Man vs. Marth has to be near the top, as far as SA(DX) is concerned.

It isn't up there right now, but sonicam vs. Rolken/SPA should be top 5, mostly for the lol.

...Maybe McKenzies in S3. Or Maggot vs. Sprint in SCD.

Now I'm just throwing random shit into it, lol. Not sure which is #1.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: X-5 on April 16, 2007, 03:40:18 am
I wish cybrax was here cause then yall would have the greatest tussle ever of him vs me in all the sonic levels
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 16, 2007, 04:19:07 am
and to think when I came back to do heroes I just wanted to get back scores.  I dont know if this rivalry of ours will last as long as the ones coming up.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: PsyBorg on April 16, 2007, 03:40:28 pm
Wouldn't surprise me to see PB/RPG (S06) or PB/Groudon/YF/SJ (Shadow), but meh, I thought they were both lower than even Crowbar/SkyLights. (No mention of BenB17 who was up there for a while as well?)


You mean PB/D1AOS (S2006) and PB/YF/SJ (shth) of course.


RPG has kinda dropped out of competing in S2006 for now, D1AOS has come into the S2006 fray, and about Groudon, well, he was never REALLY a competitor. >.>

/me run from Groudon
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 16, 2007, 03:55:58 pm
RPG has kinda dropped out of competing in S2006 for now

I cant be arsed X)

But mark my words, I might come back at some point possibly maybe
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Groudon on April 16, 2007, 04:18:54 pm
PB/Groudon/YF/SJ (Shadow)

and about Groudon, well, he was never REALLY a competitor. >.>

When I got Shadow, it was well past the competitive days.  I have beaten a few of you guys in a couple levels (most notably, me being the first to get sub-2:00 in CP-H, and let's not forget 8.44 LH-H).  Okay, I've pretty much only beaten you guys in a small number of levels (but strangely swamped Psy on BC-H), but there's just no more good anything for me to compete against.  Also, with the strat knowledge fading of you 3, there are some tricks I'll never know about, so I can't even try to be any type of threat to you guys on levels I already haven't beaten any of you 3 on.  Of course, if I had some videos...
/me looks at yoshifan and SJ
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 16, 2007, 05:06:23 pm
that last batch of shadow vids will probably be my last.  I cant be arsed to even take the game seriously anymore with getting overly mad from the game failing on me.

I might try rings again...but after that it will be my last stance on Shadow and that will give me a full chart.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on April 17, 2007, 07:17:42 am
And now we arrive at many people's sentimental choice for #1...

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #7
Rolken vs eredani (Sonic Chaos)


Ah, who can forget the battle of the two superpowers? *cough*ICALLBS*cough*

One of TSC's greatest ever mismatches on paper brought about a short lived, but highly entertaining rivalry. There was a time on Sonic Chaos when, since the levels are so bloody short, every time was considered as good as perfect. Complacency exists no more after Rolken smashed a sequence of such times held by myself, vgm777, and plenty of others. RPG also chimed in with a few records, but it was eredani who took up the challenge of squeezing the life out of these tiny levels. eredani's total time now stands 45 seconds ahead of Rolken at a most incredible 5:30!

Rolken then shifted the battlefield to an area he was more likely to win: scores. In fact, to this day Rolken holds the scores matchup 18-13 and leads the division by three points. However, eredani won the war with his unbelievable times.

CURRENT LEADER: eredani initially won by split decision, but the crowd rioted when they were informed that Rolken didn't win, and the crown was handed to him to appease them.

The List of Mystery

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: ??? vs ???
#5: ??? vs ???
#4: ??? vs ???
#3: ??? vs ???
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???

Have I ever mentioned how much I love writing these up?

And while I think about it, in the top six there's some rivalries which contain either me or RPG. In these cases we will write our own perspectives on these rivalries, rather than forcing the other guy to do it (as has been the case in the past).

Memo to RPG: Remember to ask people to guess the top five tomorrow! Or possibly make it the top four as that'll be hard enough to pick.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Rolken on April 18, 2007, 02:08:41 am
I'm gonna take that back again soon. You know it'll happen.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: magnum12 on April 18, 2007, 03:52:48 pm
We gotta have at least one tussle between two players that spilled into multiple games, right?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 18, 2007, 10:21:38 pm
has that happened?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: General Throatstomper on April 18, 2007, 10:55:31 pm
I was around way back when. When the site was new, had clunky blue framesets, and tracked less than a fifth of the stats it does now. As such, you should mark my opinion, or at least as far as the past rivalries are concerned.

6) Skylights vs. Rolken (Sonic and the Secret Rings)
5) Mike vs. Turbos vs. RPG vs. the world (Sonic Advance 3)
4) Nintendan vs. RPG (Sonic Advance 2)
3) Rolken vs. sonicam vs. RPG (Sonic Pocket Adventure)
2) F-Man vs. Marth (Sonic Adventure)
1) Nintendan vs. Zeupar (Sonic Advance)

...hm. I think this is a decent list. A few ideas I discarded for the number 1 rivalry ever:

1) Everyone vs. sonicandamy (everything)-As far as I remember, nobody on the site has ever been hated more than s&a. As far as I remember, there has also never been such a large collective effort to sabotage a single member. Almost any record he sets is guaranteed to have at least three attempts per at least two irate users to take back. Discarded as top spot because mike and RPG wouldn't well want to encourage them.

2) Xebra vs. Brian vs. FoxLuc vs. Mike (Sonic 3)-In the early days of the site, Mike, Brian, Foxluc, and Xebra went at it for ages in Sonic 3. It was epic. One day someone would set a record, and the next day someone else would throw around allegations of 'bs' so frequently that it became a site tradition to do so as a greeting*. Then they would have a grand old time going back and forth for the championship. Excluded because there's evidence Brian and Xebra used clock slowdown to obtain some of their records, and Mike vs. Foxluc doesn't tell the whole story.

3) Nintendan vs. Rolken vs. RPG (Sonic Advance)-Nintendan destroyed every record in Sonic Advance almost overnight. It was a 100% championship for...I think roughly 2 years. Ignored because this was not a rivalry. This was a massacre.

And on and on.

*This is a lie. I don't think mike was calling bs before I went on a 6 month hiatus.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Ring Rush on April 18, 2007, 11:14:13 pm
No way SL vs Rolken on SSSR. That isn't that big of a rivalry. Its more of SL and Rolk vs S&A (with me backing up a bit on the scores front and recently SJ coming in). Even then, it wasn't that big.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 19, 2007, 02:45:52 am
Placeholder post for #6
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Zeupar on April 19, 2007, 04:08:51 am
1) Nintendan vs. Zeupar (Sonic Advance)

:O. I think it was a personal tussle more than a tussle between two players. It was me against Ninty's great stats.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: F-Man on April 19, 2007, 09:35:35 am
2) F-Man vs. Marth (Sonic Adventure)
There was a rivalry between Marth and I? Seriously, I frankly don't remember... I think I only competed with myself. What I do know is that Marth never got the championship. :P
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on April 19, 2007, 11:20:53 am
and to think when I came back to do heroes I just wanted to get back scores.?  I dont know if this rivalry of ours will last as long as the ones coming up.

Alright, Heroes FTW. Had a feeling you guys would make it. It really is an interesting rivalry, that's for sure.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 19, 2007, 11:24:57 am
TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #6
NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas (Sonic Advance 2)


ah, good times.

Perhaps one of the better known rivalries to grace TSC's history, which started out as just a small little race to take the Championship.

Back in the day when zealous was the unquestioned King of Advance 2, and I had a horrible time sheet that was mostly times in dead last, I set myself the task of bettering them, with no real foresight into how far Id go. So I started out with Leaf Forest and got into the upper ranks, and then as I got through more and more levels I started breaking records. First just one level with one character, then a sweep, then a whole zone, at one point I think I held about half the time records but I could be exaggerating there to make myself sound more awesome than I already am if thats even possible *inhales*

At this time, Ninty had picked up Advance 2 and started owning various levels into the ground. His first was Hot Crater 1, I know I used his vid to get my time <_< Then Leaf Forest 1. And 2. And it escalated from there.

At this point it was just a matter of time before Zealous was knocked out of first, with myself not far behind him and Ninty some distance behind in 3rd. With an almost complete bracket in hand I was ready Ninty went and swept almost everything, the bastard. >_>

However, with almost no boss stat submissions, and those that were being substandard, once I finished my bracket I was a clear first by around 200 points. Then Ninty started raeping all the bosses too. As the gap got smaller and smaller it was only a matter of time till he took first. And he did. From this point it was full scale war. We would both TA relentlessly to knock the other out of first, the championship often stayed held by the same person for days, sometimes weeks at a time before changing. This went on for, Id estimate, 6 months. And what a awesome 6 months it was. After this it slowed down a little, and it wouldnt switch hands for months at a time.

Then there was the new kid on the block, doug.

Doug came out of nowhere with a bunch of impressive stats, immediatly catching our attention, and gradually whittled down his points till he was within striking distance of first place. Now I have no qualms in saying that we thought he was bsing for a while because of the genus incident (<_<) in Advance 2 not long before, but its a good job he wasnt because doug is awesome and stuff. Oh and I used his vids to better some of my times. By the time doug took first, Ninty had pretty much retired from the TA scene, and I cared not to fight back being engaged in competition in other games and procrastinating and stuff. As such dougs iron first held for a long time, up until, in fact, the addition of scores and rings to the weightings.

With scores and rings now in weighting, doug fought hard to claim as many records as he could in both these categories, and dropped his total to a staggeringly low 150 or so at one point.

Doug held first up until he had to fend Quartz off on all fronts, with the championship changing hands rapidly in the space of a week, however doug emerged victorious.

But all was not over yet! I gave one final ditch effort to wrench the Championship from him, with my spring spamming antics in the Score division.. >_>

As it stands, we were tied first for a while before Judgement came along and knocked us both out of first place, however doug hasnt given up yet, just a few days ago he improved a few stats aiming to get his championship back :o

CURRENT LEADER: Douglas is the clear winner here by far, having held the Championship for the longest and being the highest up of the charts of the three of us. I would be inclined to say I am a close second but my spring spamming antics lead me to not want to put that <_< And with Ninty now down in 5th place it is unfortunate to see him sliding down the charts with times as awesome as his :<


The List that could in fact be described as somewhat of a Mystery

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas
#5: ??? vs ???
#4: ??? vs ???
#3: ??? vs ???
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???

Go ahead and specumulate some more, as Ill be posting #5 later to get back on schedule
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on April 19, 2007, 11:33:56 am
Go Judgement! Too bad you're not on the list but anyway, congrats guys.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: magnum12 on April 19, 2007, 11:58:21 am
has that happened?
Yeah. I can think of one case in which that's happened. That would have to be the rivarly between myself and sonicam in SH and SB. Those were some real good times with the SH championship changing hands at least 7 times within a month. The SB rivarly occured in January of 2005 when I started playing SB before the year began, with me taking 1st place within about a week of playing. The battle in that game resumed in November of 2005.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: douglas on April 19, 2007, 02:00:59 pm
I'd have called BS on me too, given that I didn't take part in the forum/chat and didn't give any proof until I had 2nd place from RPG :)  I have to say I think Taco's the better Adv2 player, and I think given the new strats we have he could be champ (certainly Times leader) - the fact that the best of the rest have tried and tried to beat his best times, and failed on many counts (only recently has LF1 been taken, and that literally required medical attention afterwards!).  Massive kudos to RPG, Quartz and Judgement too, all top quality players.

Slight qualm about the "iron fist" comment - I had the championship by 1 point from Taco when score/rings was added, and for a pretty short time (in fact, it's easily my proudest achievement to have taken Adv2 from him before the change).  I had ring/score stats from back when I started and thought they were worth something <_<  and that's what gave me silly points.

Anyhoo, given that my exams are here and I'm procrastinating furiously, I'll have the championship back soon enough :)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: General Throatstomper on April 19, 2007, 03:59:13 pm
May I point out I came fairly close to calling this with my number 4? Because I was only a single player and two rankings off.

Also, we should attempt to guess what next year's 'Top 10' will be.

Top 10 Biggest Comebacks-The 10 users who made the most drastic turnarounds in skill.
Top 10 Best Nicks Ever Used by Mike and RPG-The 10 best nicks Mike and RPG have ever used.
Top 10 Spirit Awards-The 10 determined users who you want to do well because they never give up but invariably fail.
Top 10 Comments-The 10 best comments ever left on a record.
Top 10 Back and Forth Records-The 10 most fought over records.
Top 10 Breakthrough Moments-The 10 most significant findings in competition history.
Top 10 Worst Falls-The 10 worst losses of championships ever ever.
Top 10 Most Competitive Players-The 10 most competitive players. Rawk?
Top 10 Underrated Players-The 10 really awesome players everyone forgets about.
Top 10 Prolific Players-The 10 most consistantly noteworthy players who have submitted to just about everything.

There are exactly 10 ideas for a top 10 there. I'm bound to have hit at least one of their ideas.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Combo on April 19, 2007, 04:44:09 pm
Man I kinda wish it was like that now Sonic Adv 2 seems to be dead at the moment (its kinda good though seeing that my game is erased)
Doulgas regained leadership on time(will try to get it back)
But that seems to be it on what is happining.Havnt even touched my Sonic Adv 2 in weeks.Ummmm can't think of something else to say.......
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Crowbar on April 19, 2007, 04:45:57 pm
Top 10 Comments-The 10 best comments ever left on a record.
Top 10 Breakthrough Moments-The 10 most significant findings in competition history.

I like these two.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: douglas on April 19, 2007, 06:43:09 pm
Top 10 Back and Forth Records-The 10 most fought over records. <-- I call SBW and I over IP2.  Great fun it was too :)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Groudon on April 19, 2007, 07:18:42 pm
Top 10 Prolific Players-The 10 most consistantly noteworthy players who have submitted to just about everything.

Thorn wins that hands-down.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on April 19, 2007, 08:42:18 pm
I like the underrated one. Perhaps something more like one-hit wonders would be better in that regard?

ie. someone who submitted a batch of awesome records and never came back. Think smtp on Sonic 2/3.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Combo on April 19, 2007, 09:29:21 pm
Top 10 Back and Forth Records-The 10 most fought over records.
Top 10 Most Competitive Players-The 10 most competitive players. Rawk?
Top 10 Prolific Players-The 10 most consistantly noteworthy players who have submitted to just about everything.

I like these 3
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Marth on April 19, 2007, 11:32:50 pm
2) F-Man vs. Marth (Sonic Adventure)
There was a rivalry between Marth and I? Seriously, I frankly don't remember... I think I only competed with myself. What I do know is that Marth never got the championship. :P
Someone's got a big head and a bad memory. :P
I was about to take the championship, but then you dumped a bunch of new records in
(through all the categories) and took it right before I could.
Then, there was the rivalry with different stages. In... I think it was early 2006, I was
smashing a bunch of your records, and the top two rankings in a bunch of stages
shifted back and forth. Of course, you ended up taking a lot of them back in the end,
but I still have a couple of records you haven't been able to beat (not to mention the
stages where new players are the champs... it makes me feel like we're has-beens :( ).
So you can't say you honestly think that you were just trying to beat your own times
on all those stages, and that they had nothing to do with me. I can explain it in detail if I need to.

You're the overall champion now, and you own a lot of records, but you can't say I
haven't been able to compete with you. You'd just be fooling yourself and increasing
the size of your head and ego by saying that.


Also, I should win for "underrated player".    :(     :P
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: F-Man on April 20, 2007, 08:20:10 am
2) F-Man vs. Marth (Sonic Adventure)
There was a rivalry between Marth and I? Seriously, I frankly don't remember... I think I only competed with myself. What I do know is that Marth never got the championship. :P
You're the overall champion now, and you own a lot of records, but you can't say I
haven't been able to compete with you. You'd just be fooling yourself and increasing
the size of your head and ego by saying that.
Oh, I'm not saying you weren't giving me inspiration to find shortcuts and improve. :)

But really I have no idea what I meant, I think I was just saying that championships were never thrown around, so should it count?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Taillow on April 20, 2007, 07:32:22 pm
Bah.  There goes my chance.  The only other even remote rivalry (aside from the passive Advance 2 one where I wasn't trying to hold it) I had was against Egg in Riders, and that wasn't even noteworthy.  Still, interesting stuff to see.

Also, people guess the remaining 5.  Now.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Ring Rush on April 20, 2007, 07:49:41 pm
I still say Top 10 Improvements Out of Nowhere: Levels where nobody expected an improvement...and suddenly one happened.

GFZ1...GF...MM-R-Rings, etc.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on April 21, 2007, 04:34:15 am
You people suck at guessing. Also RPG sucks at organisation.

#5 is Rolk vs sonicam edit into earlier post ok

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #4
mike89 vs sonicam (Sonic Adventure (DX))


One that stands out in my memory in particular because we both hate the game :D

Take a look at my charts in particular now and you'll wonder how I was ever champion. The truth is it was before ring/score carried weight, and before F-Man and others actually cared. But regardless the action was intense.

sonicam became champion of SADX in November 2004 virtually unopposed, and then I turned my attention to the game over the summer (that's December, for you crazy northern hemisphere folk). I hadn't played for a week before taking the championship (a fact I recited many times much to sonicam's chagrin) and from then on it was game on... for eight months. We traded blows by the day and by the hour, until eventually it got to a point where neither of us cared enough for it anymore and both bowed out, with sonicam a slight leader.

CURRENT LEADER: Unusual in that the winner of the rivalry was actually RPG. He came out of nowhere much as I had in December, smashed my Twinkle Circuit times (and a lot of other times) and was a key player in driving me and sonicam out of the game.

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #3
mike89 vs eredani - Sonic and Knuckles


An even tougher, longer, more intense rivalry, lasting the whole of fourteen months and counting!

When eredani first came to TSC he was so good and gave so little proof I honestly believed he wasn't legitimate. Of course, I have since been proven wrong time and time again. Potentially TSC's very best player obliterated every record in his sights... and then eredani wiped through them all over again. >_>

What makes eredani's participation in this rivalry so amazing is that he was under attack on three fronts at many times in this rivalry, and was able to hold off all comers. Even more amazing was his ability to know what level I was playing, know what route I was taking, and beat the record before I even got to beat my PR at the time. And I'd be comfortably behind his time too.

There was a time in this rivalry where I took a bit of time away to concentrate on holding on to the championships of other games, though history shows I was unsuccessful in all of those ventures. Also during this rivalry was my HSC which severely limited my pwnage time. But now I feel as though the two of us have taken the game towards its limits, and feel comfortable in declaring eredani the winner.

CURRENT LEADER: eredani by unanimous decision. A couple of short, sharp bursts from me wasn't enough to hold him off, not by a long way.

The Mysterious List

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas
#5: Rolken vs sonicam (SC/STT/SPA)
#4: mike89 vs sonicam (SADX)
#3: eredani vs mike89 (S&K)
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 21, 2007, 11:20:25 am
reminds me of gamefaqs when me and fman were going at SADX there...

also looks like eredani and sonicam are tied for being in rivalries
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Taco on April 21, 2007, 05:03:22 pm
Quote
reminds me of gamefaqs when me and fman were going at SADX there...

reminds me of gamefaqs when me, cybrax, shadowthechog, supersonic101, SM, mikey, rpg, and a whole bunch of others were all going at it at SA2B :)

I was too lazy to make my own damn page of times, SM thought he was cool by ripping off of the elite's ranking system >_>
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: PsyBorg on April 21, 2007, 05:59:33 pm
Haha, the wars I have waged against other people will NEVER make it to this list. Iunno, I expected for one of my wars to take around 7th or 6th place anyway, but meh, whatever. I expect something... else... sooner or later.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Waxwings on April 22, 2007, 02:02:52 am
Stanski and Aitamen could've been on this list had they both been after S2 at the same time.

But it won't happen.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Combo on April 23, 2007, 12:01:19 am
Well it looks like a rilvary is starting up between me and doug
(Oh god i need to beat the game all over again)for adv 2
looks like this will be fun hehehe
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 23, 2007, 12:26:19 am
too bad shadow doesn't count psyborg since its not as popular.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 23, 2007, 02:54:30 am
Theres still two left, who knows. :O

#5 I will write at college and post when I get back.

#2 Will follow shortly after.

And #1? Pssch, suspense.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 25, 2007, 10:52:10 pm
RPG, you officially fail. Stop holding up our top ten. :(
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on April 26, 2007, 02:44:54 am
Its called suspense, learn to use it fool >_>

Ill say this much, the #2 greatest rivalry took place over whats commonly referred to as the sites crown jewel of games

And hopefully Ill stop playing Pearl long enough find time to write bios today <_<
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Aere Alouette on April 26, 2007, 05:11:09 am
I already know who'd that be just from the clue...at least, I think I know.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on May 03, 2007, 10:53:41 am
ZOMG LATE

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #5
Rolken vs sonicam (Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic Pocket Adventure)


Ok Ill be honest. I really dont know a great deal about the extent of this rivalry, and as such dont have much to go on. That aside, I can remember numerous instances where these pair where at each others throats (On the charts, of course >_>) I only have vague recollections of their bouts in Sonic Chaos, but I can definatly remember their duels in Triple Trouble and Pocket Adventure (Which, by the way, is the greatest game ever created.)

Records would change hands by the update, literally, until one or the other could not match the other, or they tied. The Championship changed hands several times daily, they were often separated by single points on the overall rankings. Stastistically, I think Rolko is ahead of sonicam in STT, but I could be wrong, I havent looked at those charts in forever, although I do know that Rolk is well ahead in Chaos.

Now for SPA. Yea this game gets its own paragraph because of its sheer level of awesomeness. Rolk and sonicam enjoyed repeat shenanigans of STT with SPA, similar in the way that they were separated by a mere handful of points at times, with records being broken left, right and soniccenter (I really should never say that ever again...). A good example of such an instance would be Neo South Island 1, till like mike owned them both, and then Ninty and eredani raped the level even more. This went on for sometime, until Thorn came along and wrestled 2nd from sonicam, leaving rolk in first (I could be wrong with that.) Then mike and I came along and raped the game into oblivion (Particularly Aerobase <_<).

Current Leader: Being ahead in all 3 of the games, I am forced to declare Rolko the reigning victor here by a considerable margin. However this is not to belittle sonicams achievments, his times were, and still are in some cases, damn good back in the day.

EDIT: I know find out sonicam trounced Rolko in STT. As such, I am still declaring Rolken winner on a 2-1 basis, but that makes the call a Hell of a lot closer :O

The Mysterious List

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas
#5: Rolken vs sonicam (SC/STT/SPA)
#4: mike89 vs sonicam (SADX)
#3: eredani vs mike89 (S&K)
#2: ??? vs ???
#1: ??? vs ???


#2 tonight. I promise. If I dont, Ill give my shiny Bronzong to Rolk and my shiny Ludicolo to the first person that says they want it.

~RPG
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Groudon on May 03, 2007, 03:13:02 pm
/me wants the shiny Ludicolo

Anyway, did that SADX duel between mike and sonicam happen before I started actively appearing?

And I remember most of the Rolken/sonicam battles.  Records didn't stay around for long between them for quite a while.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on May 03, 2007, 04:30:56 pm
The shiny Ludicolo will be Groudons if #2 isnt up before Midnight EST.

Also I think it may have been ongoing just as you joined, it was after the site came back up in '05 IIRC
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Groudon on May 03, 2007, 04:35:40 pm
I joined on TSC's anniversary in '05.  My first submission was the very end of November.  I started becoming active somewhere around March '06 or something.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Bilan on May 03, 2007, 06:54:02 pm
TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #2
RPG vs SS101 (SA2(B))


Where do I even start with this one? The molds for this rivalry to take place where set into motion before TSC was even born, and it even showed signs of occurring in the infamous Time Attack topic on the SA2BGB, and in the SA2B Challenge topics that appeared at regular intervals. What began as general friendly competition, turned into the second longest (hint) rivalry that the site has even seen, beginning shortly after the sites birth and finally drawing to a close several months ago when neither of us could be arsed anymore.

So lets take a look through some of the finer points shall we?

By the time I started competing at SA2B, the top 3 had been stable for quite a while:

Cybrax
SadisticMystic
Supersonic101

Now, I didn’t submit all my times at once because the majority of them were shitty, as such I submitted when and where I improved until my bracket was complete. This was back when we both little nubcakes who’d never have dreamt of obtaining the totals we do now. I passed SS, and then, much to my suprise, found myself ahead of SM, too, though still a good way behind cybrax. I didn’t have my sights set on first but I continued to TA away regardless. SS countered this by pulling out a bunch of good times, passing SM and rapidly catching up to myself. Now if memory serves we were both around 200 (That was a LOT back in the day) points behind. So we did the most logical thing we could; teamed up to try and take down cybrax. Unfortunatly this didn’t work exactly according to plan. As soon as wed take the time to painstakingly break one of his records, hed simply come back and beat us by a few seconds. After a while we gave up and ended up simply squabbling over second place, very slowly drawing nearer to cybrax however. This continued throughout ’04 until I eventually simmered down and tried elsewhere (Hi Advance 2). In this time, rayku and kev had both passed me, and yoshi was drawing near to SM who was some distance behind me. I left SA2B alone until the great downtime of ’05. And then the challenger appeared. Yea, that faggot we call mike89.

Seriously, if hed not came around and incited both me and SS into action with his "rar i am going to whoard stats and take the Championship" type talk Id never have had the championship beyond that one fleeting day sometime in '04 I forgot to mention till now.

By this point, I know cybrax was out of the game and third, and I -think- rayku was first with ss in second but yea this is my memory were relying on here X)

Over the downtime, the three of us TAed relentlessly, I have never smashed my own PRs to the extent I did in that month or so, smashing an entire 15 minutes (!) from my total, 179 minutes down to 164, mike got his down to 174 or so, and ss to 162. As such mike never really had a shot at the championship but hes had plenty more so nevermind.

SS once again overtook rayku, after a LOT of effort I crawled passed cybrax into third and it stayed this way for a good while, right until, in fact, the addition of scores and rings to the charts, which shunted me into first by a mere 9 points. From here, full scale war commenced, if you can call it that. SS would bother in a ring stat and drop 20 points. Id painstakingly claw them back. Repeat. It was only when I got my OWN Rings and Score stats to satisfactory levels (at the time) and SS couldnt be arsed that I got a decent lead of about 100 points. Overtime this was gradually reduced lower and lower to the miniscule gap it is today, as we both stopped playing and eventually were passed by yoshifan, zeph and stefan (Not necessarilly in that order). But who knows, you never know when something could spark up again out of old flames.

Current Leader: TIE. Yeah thats right, I am refusing to determine a winner here, its way too close to call, although it would most likely be SS if hed ever bothered with rings properly...


This aside, Id like to say SS is a fucking awesome rival, whenever I felt I couldnt get any better he convinced me otherwise and vice versa, it was an absolute pleasure duking it out with you over all this time dude, its just a shame great things have to come to an end I guess, this is almost certainly one the best times, and friendships Ive ever had and gained from TSC, and one I certainly wont be forgetting for a -very- long time

The Mysterious List

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas
#5: Rolken vs sonicam (SC/STT/SPA)
#4: mike89 vs sonicam (SADX)
#3: eredani vs mike89 (S&K)
#2: RPG vs SS101 (SA2B)
#1: ??? vs ???

And now I believe its over to mike for TSC's Greatest Ever Titanic Tussle, whether he wants my opinions on it for a secret collaborative effort for you folks remains to be seen, though o:
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on May 03, 2007, 09:51:12 pm
Alright, here goes. The greatest rivalry on TSC...

sonicandamy vs *nuked*

TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #1
RPG vs mike89 (The Whole Damn Site)


Now as this is between myself and RPG we're both going to write our own perspectives on the rivalry. However I'm not waiting a week and a half for him again >_>

Where do I begin? The days of mike89 vs RPG go back even before the beginning of TSC. So let's take a stroll down memory lane to about... early 2003

I'd just got SA2B and as I was a regular user on GameFAQs at the time, checked out the relevant message board. The first thing I noticed was that people actually thought that it was Hyper Shadow (...), and the second was that every topic that didn't deal with Shadow's name was a time attack topic. And the times even back then were outstanding. All the usual suspects were there: Cybrax, SS101, SM, NintenDan, and a few others that never really made the transition over here.

One day the plethora of time attack topics was complemented with a boss time attack topic, started by none other than RPG. A quick play through these suggested they'd be far easier to compete on than the levels proper, so I took the challenge and for much of the topic's life we were the top two by a handy margin. There was one other guy who was pretty good by the name of Smashnuke, but he never came to TSC either.

This topic continued even past the beginning of TSC, until it was for whatever reason deleted at about 460 posts. As you can imagine RPG was not impressed. Then bosses were added to SA2B competition in February of 2004 and it didn't matter any more.

Around this time games were getting added to TSC at a rapid rate. It was about this time that Sonic Advance 3 was released, so the game count on TSC sat at 23. It was here that the real rivalry began.

And also here the story of TSC's Unluckiest Member began to emerge. RPG held five separate championships in April, but none for more than two days. Drift was forcibly taken by yours truly, then wrested back and forth for a while. Drift 2 I believe, at this stage, fell to Turbos; Sonic Jam went to some guy whose name eludes me; and Sonic Adventure 2 was re-taken by SS101. Or Cybrax. One of them anyway.

As the year rolled on my list of championships got bigger, and I began to take a comfortable lead in the rivalry. Then the unthinkable happened.

On April 1st, 2005, TSC disappeared. It would not return for a full three months.

Without comparisons to existing times I found it hard to motivate myself to TA, but the rivalry was back on when RPG suggested we keep track of our SA2B improvements until the downtime was over. This got me playing again, and when the weightings were changed at the end of the year, I realised I had a real chance of taking the Crown Jewel for myself. I got to within 200 points before RPG had had enough and took SS101 to another level, leaving me in the dust. And with yoshifan smashing just about every record in sight, my chance has well and truly passed.

2006 and onwards has seen me take a lesser role in the rivalry, as I focused on my studies (shock!) and since finishing school I've taken on more responsibility around the site. RPG caught up to me in a few games, such as Sonic 1, but he's been slowing down of late too.

However, we didn't stop completely. There was the small matter of Sonic Pocket Adventure to contend with.

RPG had just decided to take Rolken and sonicam, the two players who had ruled the roost for a long period of time, to the cleaners. It got me thinking that I could match him blow for blow, and I pretty much did. I fiercely attacked all of RPG's records, and managed to steal a lot only before receiving similar blows back. It continued like that for a couple of weeks when I reached a point where I couldn't continue... agonisingly close to taking the championship again. How the leaderboard sits now is basically how it was then.

Since 2003, RPG and I have had rivalries on the following: SADX, SA2B, Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 1 GG, SPA, Sonic R, SD and SD2; and those are only the ones that occur to me as critical rivalries. Ours is by far the widest spanning rivalry on the site.

CURRENT LEADER: Too close to call. I've held more championships and have more records than he does, so statistically I should win. But RPG has more often than not won the one-on-one duels, so after four years we're still level. May another four years of competition bring a result!

The List that is No Longer Mysterious

#10: SkyLights vs Crowbar (Rush)
#9: Cybrax vs Rayku (SA2B)
#8: SJ vs eredani vs sonicam (SH)
#7: Rolken vs eredani (SC)
#6: NintenDan vs RPG vs douglas
#5: Rolken vs sonicam (SC/STT/SPA)
#4: mike89 vs sonicam (SADX)
#3: eredani vs mike89 (S&K)
#2: RPG vs SS101 (SA2B)
#1: RPG vs mike89 (TSC)

And just remember: It's these rivalries that make the site great. I've found that I've got to know the people in engaging in competition with them, and I am particularly impressed with RPG and sonicam as people. The kind of people with that bloody-minded determination that will serve them well in their lives.

Well, we're nearly done here (finally...). When RPG completes his end of the bargain, I've got some honourable mentions for you as usual.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Taillow on May 04, 2007, 01:36:53 am
Is it just me, or do you two always come out on top in your own things?  >_>
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on May 04, 2007, 01:59:53 am
Actually, its the first time either of us have been outright first.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Thorn on May 04, 2007, 02:20:35 pm
TSC's TITANIC TUSSLE #5
Rolken vs sonicam (Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic Pocket Adventure)


...This went on for sometime, until Thorn came along and wrestled all of you fuckers into the ground, taking the championship, because you'd all forgotten that times isn't the only category on the site2nd from sonicam, leaving rolk in first (I could be wrong with that.)...

~RPG

Fixed *shot*. Although I openly admit that once Rolk became "RAWR I want my lead back" and then RPG and mike followed Rolken for whatever reason, I kinda snuck out the back door and played other games while they battled.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: yse on May 05, 2007, 10:03:56 am
Okay so RPG is a ho and isn't holding up to his end of the bargain. Honourable mention time!

This time around, I'm giving it to those that didn't get a chance at the rivalries... because nobody was good enough to keep up with them. The Best of the Best Versus the Clock battles!

SprintGod (Take your pick) - Probably could've been picked for about four games, but was eventually upended in Sonic CD mainly due to lack of caring. I suspect a big showing from Sprint by the time the next top tens roll around.

sonicam (STT) - Rolken had a red hot go, but sonicam has proven too strong across all categories. Maybe another target for Sprint?

mike89/Aitamen/stanski (S2) - in order of appearance. All three of us have had our moments in the sun, but stanski deserves particular recognition for getting 100% and raping the poor game to bits. Take the hint, stanski, it can't take any more damage!

Ghost (S1) - much more amazing when we didn't know who he was, but still held complete domination over the time charts for a time.

maggot (S1/S1GG/SCD) - made his way into the top ten sitewide with just three rankings! I think at the time all three were championships above 95%.

Quartz (SAdva3) - The genuine good guy who we all wanted to get 100%. Then I crushed his dream by adding rings. Not like he was doing much to shave off the remaining points anyway...

NintenDan (SAdva) - Who could forget? NintenDan has held sway on Sonic Advance since about March of 2004... until ended recently by Zeupar. Still, he was untouchable for one hell of a long time.

Dishonourable mentions go to half of the above list for taking championships that were previously mine.

And that's it for another six months! I hope you enjoyed it, particularly the delayed ending which I'm sure RPG will try to convince you was always in the plan, and we'll be back in October for the Fourth Anniversary Edition!

~mike89 and RPG
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Zeupar on May 05, 2007, 12:39:11 pm
NintenDan has held sway on Sonic Advance since about March of 2004... until ended recently by Zeupar.
Hi mom. :) *waves to imaginary camera*

Anyway I'm sure Ninty will get back the first position soon...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on May 05, 2007, 07:12:55 pm
I can assure you guys the delayed ending was always part of our grand scheme
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Titanic Tussles [COUNTING DOWN]
Post by: Taillow on May 06, 2007, 05:45:55 pm
Quartz (SAdva3) - The genuine good guy who we all wanted to get 100%. Then I crushed his dream by adding rings. Not like he was doing much to shave off the remaining points anyway...
That was crushed on my many, many, MANY, MANY attempts on the two bosses, as well as the invalid records of Altar Emerald.  And laziness on nonagression.  And besides, I'll get at those rings... when I've done enough in Pokémon Pearl version
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Telnaior on May 31, 2007, 02:04:52 am
I can assure you guys the delayed ending was always part of our grand scheme

Yeah, Yeah.

And that's it for another six months! I hope you enjoyed it, particularly the delayed ending which I'm sure RPG will try to convince you was always in the plan, and we'll be back in October for the Fourth Anniversary Edition!

~mike89

;P

Just thought I'd point that out! ;P again just for the sake of it.

P.S. Sorry for cutting off 7/8ths of your post, but I had to make it short and sweet mike.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on May 31, 2007, 08:16:39 am
It was SO planned, mike just forgot, I assure you >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Telnaior on May 31, 2007, 10:16:31 pm
Well I've got an idea.

HURRY UP AND FINISH THE DAMN ENDING!!!
Because every day you spend delays the ending more.

Besides, I think that "the whole damn site" means the forums as well.
Mike just anticipated what you were going to say, and beat you!

And what's this "sonicandamy vs everyone else" thing about?
Is it because everyone thinks that Sonic and Amy shouldn't?

/me runs away before someone declares war on him
(Hopefully I got the code right, I'm new to these crazy forum codes)
EDIT: That right? Thanks Rick
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Rick_242 on May 31, 2007, 10:21:33 pm
[/me]runs away before someone declares war on him
(Hopefully I got the code right, I'm new to these crazy forum codes)

It is: (me=Insert name) then when you are done (/me)

The parenthessess should be brackets and it will work. ex:

/me tries to teach Josh BBcode
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on June 01, 2007, 04:07:25 am
Er... it's been finished for a month now >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Mo on June 08, 2007, 05:47:00 pm
I'm the recorded holder for a boss in Sonic and the secret rings and I don't think nobody will ever try to beat my time.   
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on June 08, 2007, 06:00:11 pm
You were pwned once (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/hyper1000000/sonic_and_the_secret_rings/bosses/captain_bemoth/boss). Just wait (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/shadow_jacky/bio).

Also, why have you posted that here? <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on June 08, 2007, 06:10:15 pm
he wants recognition for 1 record?  *shrug*

also try for 44 if you dont want anyone to beat it.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on August 22, 2007, 08:59:59 am
Revival!

The topic for this edition of the top tens will be epic discoveries (this is not the official title). Basically, things that changed our view of competition (props to SJ for this definition, though unfortunately I had to omit "or just plain awesomeness" because that's implied).

Included in each "bio" will be the trick, the founder (if known), a brief explanation of what the trick is and how to perform it, and it's impact on competition. The latter will be our main focus in terms of ranking.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: magnum12 on August 22, 2007, 12:35:08 pm
Early predictions as to what will get in the top 10 (or get an honorable mention, all in no order).
1. The mechanics for how the treasure hunting stages hide their targets (and the locations). Discovered by SM.
2. The TBG (and the controversy it ensued).
3. The mechanism as to how the TB Gauge is built (and how to get it up REAL fast). I believe I was the first person to make the fast build trick public.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Ring Rush on August 22, 2007, 01:31:21 pm
Predictions in a random order:

1. See Magnum
2. See Magnum
3. Whoever first thought of check manipulation and doing crazy backtracks for check manipulation
4. Whoever found out about the SDJ (which will of course be first place, as it effects near every game)
5. Whoever discovered that GH1 :24 was humanly possible
6-10. Five other things SM figured out because he figures out everything >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Waxwings on August 22, 2007, 08:03:26 pm
SDJ is easy to figure out.

Superbounce, however...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on August 22, 2007, 10:00:48 pm
The badnik bounce..
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: X-5 on August 23, 2007, 07:51:48 pm
I think you should still do player-based top 10 rankings, cuz for god sake your site rankings don't prove who the best is, lets say someone managed a ZERO point SA2B championship and it only took them like a week cuz they got records on levels on like their first try everytime and that gets them 30th or so on  the site rankings are them 29 people really better than them? naaaah

i mean this top ten is interesting and all but I think it should be like a side-based thing with a player top 10 as the main one since these only happen twice a year.

surely someone thinks this way too


:<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on August 23, 2007, 08:33:28 pm
I think you should still do player-based top 10 rankings, cuz for god sake your site rankings don't prove who the best is, lets say someone managed a ZERO point SA2B championship and it only took them like a week cuz they got records on levels on like their first try everytime and that gets them 30th or so on  the site rankings are them 29 people really better than them? naaaah

i mean this top ten is interesting and all but I think it should be like a side-based thing with a player top 10 as the main one since these only happen twice a year.

surely someone thinks this way too


:<
THANK YOU!  Someone agrees with me!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on August 23, 2007, 08:36:47 pm
Sitewide rankings aren't intended to rank the person with the best playing talent, they are there to represent the player with the most overall, varied, and straightforward consistent talent. If I wanted to find the player who has dominated their game the most, the rankings pages are there for me! That's the point of sonic adventure 2 rankings, to show who and to what extent is at the top of the list! The first sentence of the sitewide's formula page alone proves its purpose: "The sitewide ranking formula is designed to reward additional submissions and particularly very high ones." The purpose is to reward large quantities of high ranking stats. That's not a bad basis for a SITEWIDE ranking. Sitewide, as a title, implies that you can play across the site. Surely it's a high quality of a game player to be red overall in every game? Is mike really not deserving of being the champion across the site, rather than someone like stanski who has raped two games to bits? There's no question, overall, Mike is a better player. That overall tag that is the main function of sitewides works fine. Sitewides really do show who excels in multiple games. Claiming that they aren't an accurate measure of success is entirely ridiculous when citing a fictitious example that will not happen. Not only are the overalls not designed to prove who is the best, but rather the most consistent, but they are a very accurate measure of success as well. As I said earlier, dominating a single game is well represented in the single game rankings. The purpose of the sitewide was for a level of playing past that one game.

For what it's worth, a 0 point championship in SA2:B would net you 137.52 sitewide points, or 18th place.



Anyway, I believe the fact that top ten topics are so rare is more reason to put an original one in there. Ranking the best players is fine and dandy until you realize that it's the same rearrangement of yoshifan, mike, rpg, thorn, and sonicam over and over again. We recognize who is a great player, and for the most part the great players don't really change. Since we only get two a year, I think it's a fantastic idea to dedicate top tens to unusual and overlooked facets of competition.


If what you're proposing is a "few-game-menace" idea, rather than an overall rankings, I kind of like it. We haven't necessarily done a top ten list of people who play only a few games, but rape those few to little bits. That's totally seperate from an overall ten, would represent your hypothetical sonic adventure 2 player, and would bring some interesting, lesser known names to the plate.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: X-5 on August 23, 2007, 11:07:43 pm
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lol ill have a proper post tomorrow when im thinking straight........
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: X-5 on August 23, 2007, 11:42:52 pm
err okay nevermind I think i'm calm for a few moments here now so

i know what you mean with the overall consistency thing, i mean hell mike for example as #1 has done so much in virtually every game people like me don't stand a chance of overcoming him. like being able to play something until you get it only gets you so far, it doesn't get you #1 spread through like 30 games unless you have 5-10 years to dedicate cuz it will take you so much time on each little thing where a good player gets it in a few minutes which is my major flaw. but I do think my ability to outdo anyone on any given level of any game if I feel like it should be a great skill to have.

So really now im confused... is a good player a player who can push a level so far that no one else could tie or top it? or is a good player someone who does pretty good everywhere really fast.... i'd assume thats a matter of opinion, but in real life competitions generally you don't sit there forever playing it over and over again, you have 1 shot and thats it, so maybe thats a better skill to have... then again you have competitions like tsc where you have unlimited time, so its still a matter of opinion i guess, or matter of what type of competition your into. aeaah i dunno I hope you get what i'm saying.

but I don't want the ranks removed.. nor do I think they are a bad idea. basically what i meant is i just think its stupid to stop the traditional top 10 just because the sitewide rankings are there. Cybrax was in the top 10, but he's nowhere in the sitewide top 10, to give you an example of  why the state ment is wrong: "The reason we stopped the traditional top 10 is because it would be a repeat of the sitewide rankings"

 these "new" top 10s are interesting yeah I like the sound of this current one but I think they should be like a side-thingy and let the regular 10 be something more involving about the players, but I really don't care either way just throwing out my thoughts.

and i didn't have a clue what a 0 point SA2 would be worth so i figured itd be around 30th place, still you get the idea if someone could sweep SA2 that fast let alone at all I guarantee he would be just as consistantly good as the #1 overall, just he hasn't played/ doesn't have as many games =P

mike vs stanski... i'm not gunna say either are superior when it comes down to pure skill, they just each got their own specialties.



Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on August 23, 2007, 11:48:40 pm
There's also the fact that not everyone can get every game or don't care about some games.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on August 24, 2007, 08:05:05 am
The overall top tens were stopped long before the sitewides were created. The sitewides are relatively new, whereas unique top tens are pretty old. Cybrax probably would have been top ten 3 years ago on sitewide, had the method existed. But again, we know it's going to be thorn, mike, sonicam, rpg, and yoshifan at the top, over and over. What is the point of simulating an outcome you already know? It's far more fun to make the top ten entirely dedicated to some lesser known part of competition that is just as relevant as overall score.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on August 24, 2007, 12:58:10 pm
Quite so, it should be entertaining rather than actually informative IMO :)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on August 24, 2007, 08:57:44 pm
Still, there could at least be a top ten of game trumping...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on August 24, 2007, 09:22:14 pm
Still, there could at least be a top ten of game trumping...

Which relates to the "few-game-menace" idea I proposed. To be honest, I'm really liking the idea. Da1andonlysonic and stanski would be somewhere on the list.. that's really all I can think of for now.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Marth on August 24, 2007, 11:08:05 pm
I hope something from SA gets in. :D Like that double Spin Dash jump that was used for
Casinopolis on GCN, and later in Final Egg on DC. Or any glitch that broke a single stage.
Or the Death Line Hax trick in Windy Valley. (Okay, that didn't do much... other than annoy
everyone because they couldn't figure it out.)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on August 28, 2007, 11:09:07 am
Quite so, it should be entertaining rather than actually informative IMO :)

Are you suggesting these aren't informative?!

Personally I'd like to think I cover both bases fairly well. RPG, on the other hand...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on August 28, 2007, 11:33:18 am
Quite so, it should be entertaining rather than actually informative IMO :)

Are you suggesting these aren't informative?!

Personally I'd like to think I cover both bases fairly well. RPG, on the other hand...
Indeed, hence the smilie; I was just indicating which I feel to be more important.

Also RPG where's my bio kplz
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on September 07, 2007, 07:18:36 am
Revival!

The topic for this edition of the top tens will be epic discoveries (this is not the official title).

Awesome idea! Who had it? Now I'm really expecting this top ten.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 11, 2007, 12:09:44 pm
We haven't forgotten about this! The #10 Epic Discovery will be out Sunday.

One important thing: I have started every previous Top Ten, setting the pace for future revealings from RPG. This time, I entrust him with the first revealing (in fact, the first three) so he'd better not fuck up >:O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Rick_242 on October 11, 2007, 07:34:49 pm
Will he post them on time for once?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 11, 2007, 07:42:31 pm
Only if you're good.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 11, 2007, 10:41:47 pm
Okay, a bit of clarification because some people don't seem to have their heads around the concept.

This top ten ranks the mechanisms which have been found and used by us competitors over time. In order to get a high rank in the Top Ten, it must have had a wide ranging effect on competition. This means that it can be applied across an entire game, or perhaps multiple games!

Mechanisms which, while no less awesome, are restricted to a single level will be granted honourable mentions.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Telnaior on October 12, 2007, 02:00:08 am
I'd bet that the #1 would be the TBG, although that's banned now. But it would have been monumental when it was originally discovered.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 13, 2007, 08:17:30 pm
Hello, and welcome to the Top Tens, Fourth Anniversary Edition!

I've already clarified pretty much everything about this category, except the format. So I suppose I'll do that now.

TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #
[Name] - [Game] - [Finder - on some, this might be disputed]


[Background]
[Impact on competition]
[other epic stuff]

THE EPIC LIST :O

OK, that should be everything. RPG will have the first one ready, hopefully in the next 12 hours.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 14, 2007, 11:35:18 am
RPG will have the first one ready, hopefully in the next 12 days.

Fixed.

*predicts an "fu zeph you know i did that on purpose last time to build suspense" or similar response along with something along the lines of "im totally going to have them all ready on time this time in fact i already have the first one done so stfu," except likely with bad spelling, to which I will say "o ok" and pretend that I believe him but be unsurprised when one or more of them are late, in which case I may have to the make one or more of The Faecâ„¢ depending on several factors including which one is the first to be late and my current mood*
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 14, 2007, 03:39:40 pm
fu zeph you know i did that on purpose last time to build suspense.

im totally going to have them all ready on time this time in fact i already have the first one done so stfu.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 14, 2007, 06:09:03 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #10
Goal Ring Skipping - Sonic Heroes - Chao_Fan


So here we go with the Fourth Anniversary Edition of the Top Tens, and for once I get to make the opening entry! woot and such.

Might I also interject at this point to say that there isnt a whole lot to say on this one before mike bitches at me. And also I have no firsthand experience with it limiting my descriptive attempts!

So basically, Goal Ring Skipping. Its the act of skipping a goal ring in Sonic Heroes, allowing you to progress further into a level as a team that is normally unable to do so (Think, Chaotix getting to Sonic/Darks Goal Ring in Ocean Palace).

Generally speaking, this tactic would have no benefit at all for Time that I can think of, as well as little or no Score benefits that I can think of either. Rings is where this tactic really comes in useful; as the rings in the sections beyond the goal rings for Rose and sometimes Chaotix still contain atleast some of the rings that Sonic and Dark would find on their regular paths. Naturally this has increased the maximum amount of rings in quite a few levels since its discovery.

A slight modification of this tactic can be used to full effect in various levels as the other teams, whereby you can rocketaccelljumpfly across gaps to normally inaccessible sections of level for that team and collect rings that still spawn there for some peculiar reason (think Grand Metropolis - Sonic).

Also I promise my next article will be better than this one, so without further ado:

THE EPIC LIST :O
10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 14, 2007, 06:28:16 pm
fu zeph you know i did that on purpose last time to build suspense.

im totally going to have them all ready on time this time in fact i already have the first one done so stfu.
o ok.

*pretends to believe him but will be unsurprised when one or more of them are late, in which case I may have to the make one or more of The Faecâ„¢ depending on several factors including which one is the first to be late and my current mood*

I assume you two are alternating turns posting the top ten this time? (Or will we have things revealed out-of-order like last time? >_>)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 14, 2007, 06:29:45 pm
The order of our posting has been preset by fate and destiny.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 14, 2007, 06:32:23 pm
Time to predict! The idea of a discovery affecting multiple games is pretty interesting.

1) Emerald Hunting Mechanics-Being able to restart after death to the last emerald obtained, and knowing piece locations has always been huge for emerald missions. Seriously, I don't think I need to explain this one.
2) TBG-It pretty much defined a whole game for a while back.
3)Screenwrap-the screenwrap is pretty important for that "Sonic 3&Knuckles" game, affecting a fair deal of charts. By which I mean select charts for 4 levels, and time attack. It's still significant though.
4) Superbounce-Necessary for a few records, useless for others. Superbounce(tm)
5) Rush Score Mechanics-Relevant for...Rush and Rush Adventure score attack. You're not surprised or anything, are you?
6) DD-Pretty important at the time, it was eventually relegated to freestyle only but I don't see that hurting tbg's position as a noteworthy finding.
7) second CC-I see this is as less significant than the number 10 finding, but at this point I really can't think of any other glitches.
8)Eternal Engine Wall Glitch-Self explanatory; a wall glitch in Eternal Engine in the Dreamcast version of SA2 that lets you avoid shooting the engine at the ends of missions 1 and 5.
9)Final Egg Capsule Glitch-I seem to recall a glitch in Final Egg where you're able to hit a capsule in some remote part of the level that logically shouldn't be there.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Groudon on October 14, 2007, 08:17:29 pm
Generally speaking, this tactic would have no benefit at all for Time that I can think of, as well as little or no Score benefits that I can think of either.

The exception to the lack of Score benefits would be Final Fortress using Team Rose.  Apparently, you can get a much higher score by passing the goal ring due to the high number of enemies.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on October 14, 2007, 10:45:45 pm
a.) genus you're way wrong since most of those apply only to one sa2/sadx level.

b.) I called goal skipping in chat. next up I see super bounce attack.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Telnaior on October 15, 2007, 02:13:13 am
/me remembers that the #1 on the previous top 10 was never actually completed.
It was mike89 vs RPG. mike89 made his post about it, then waited for RPG to post his side of it. He's still waiting. That's why I am expecting to call FAIL on RPG for lateness with this top 10.
/me takes big breath ready to declare FAIL on RPG...

P.S. The Emerald Challenges need updating.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 15, 2007, 04:23:03 am
29 posts until 500... interesting!  Anyway, I'm interested in seeing stuff in the glitch/tech proposal...

Superglide (not the discovery of such, but the sudden records that were built because of it... AR2 and LB2... as well as a few AWESOME scores)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Rick_242 on October 15, 2007, 01:29:29 pm
P.S. The Emerald Challenges need updating.

If you mean why haven't runs been graded, Thorn already explained it earlier in another topic. RPG is a noob and can't grade because of certain reasons. SDM left and gave the EC's to Thorn and RPG. So Thorn pretty much runs the show. If you meant something else, you can bring it up on the EC forums.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on October 15, 2007, 05:13:55 pm
Superglide (not the discovery of such, but the sudden records that were built because of it... AR2 and LB2... as well as a few AWESOME scores)

It was useful in Egg Rocket as Knuckles as well.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2007, 05:50:25 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #9
Flag Hax - Sonic 1 Game Gear - RPG/SprintGod


Citation needed for discoverers and such. While to my knowledge I was the first to find the actual mechanics on how the flag works and awards points and announce as such in chat, I dont know if Sprint had figured it out beforehand and kept it to himself~

Yay something I can right about!

So then, what is this S1GG Flag and why was it haxed? For those not in the know, its the signpost at the end of the level, and when you hit it, it flies up into the air and then awards (what was believed to be random amounts of) points upon landing. Naturally, being awarded points at random is annoying for those doing some serious SAing, so several of us looked into this.

What I did to test this out, was drop a savestate a short distance away, and then run at it. A lot. I got the same result each time so I tried rolling into it from different distances away, where I got different amounts of points. I also noted at this point that the flag bounced higher the faster you hit it. Some more trial and error later and I ascertained that hitting it at a certain speed caused the signpost to always award you 10000 points (the highest it can give), practiced this a while until I was consistent and then claimed the discovery! <_<

There really isnt much to say about the impact it has on competition: it allows you to get an extra 10K points when you finish a level with a signpost....thats about it really <_<

In terms of other epic stuff, while not completely related I feel I should mention that the mechanics for the signpost awarding you a bonus 10 rings was discovered (by Sprint!). Basically you die twice before completing the level and the signpost will be nice to you. Awww, isnt that sweet?

THE STARTING TO BECOME MORE EPIC LIST :O
10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 16, 2007, 12:56:31 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #8
Double Spindash - Sonic Adventure 1 Marth


So now heres something that you whiny bastards might call epic. Though I still prefer the S1GG flaghax because it has more use than just one level?

So a double spindash eh? You press first button, keep held and press the other when fully charged into an ancient light attack, then release the first button only for a split second allowing you to start a spindash while you also quickly press A to jump.

So what does this do? In all actuality not a whole lot....were it not for the fact that it allows DC owners to completely bork Final Egg - Sonic. By doing this at the very first halfpipe in the level, releasing the spindash and jumping through the ceiling, with careful aiming and by using the already charged AL, you can boost forwards...and land on a capsule out in the middle of fucking nowhere and finish the level in ~10 seconds.

There really isnt much to say about the impact this has on competition either: it allows absolutely absurd times on FE-S and also helps GC owners in Sonic's Casinopolis stage. Other than that it just looks cool.

THE LIST WHICH IS NOW BECOMING EPIC :O
10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 16, 2007, 01:50:55 pm
Ahaha you got it all wrong! You press first button, keep held and press the other when charged, then release the first button only for a split second allowing you to start a spindash while you also quickly press A to jump.

This epic discovery is also useful in Casinopolis if you don't have a Dreamcast (see videos).
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 16, 2007, 01:54:23 pm
Cheers for correcting me X)

I was close tho rite <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 17, 2007, 08:53:44 pm
SHUT UP.

TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #7
Chaotix infinite fly - Sonic Heroes - sonicam/smizzla


Once upon a time, there was a game called Sonic Heroes. And in this game you could fly. This made backtracking for ring attacks rather easy. But something was about to affect ring attacks much more than that...

One day, sonicam was playing Ocean Palace and it came to pass that, by holding against a wall, the Chaotix could reset their flight meter and continue upwards, until clearing the invisible wall and reaching the turtle area. This allowed for much more rings on Ocean Palace, and also made a cameo appearance on Bullet Station. Still, all was well.

Later, my brother was playing around in Bullet Station and found something even more broken. Instead of holding against the wall, he simply shot the characters against the wall... and observed the same effect to flying capacity. A quick test on my part confirmed the truth: Chaotix were able to fly anywhere.

The impacts to RAing now are immense. Areas of Final Fortress, Mystic Mansion, BINGO Highway and other levels which were never thought possible now are. In fact, it was found that some levels had a Back ring, which as you know resets all objects in the level. This makes for easy 999s and was thus banned.

For its impact on exploration and competition, this becomes the #7 epic discovery.

THE LIST WHICH IS NOW BECOMING EPIC :O
10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 18, 2007, 05:09:11 am
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #6
Boost jumping - Sonic Advance 3 - nitsuja


Sonic Advance 3 was designed for balance. With 20 potential character teams, each with distinct strengths and weaknesses, selecting the right team for any given level was a) a lot of testing and b) a nightmare. That was, until this...

Universally regarded as the greatest ninja ever to walk the earth, nitsuja has developed a reputation for destroying Sonic games through the art of TAS. The full list of glitches and tricks he found would fill a volume, but this particular trick broke any semblance of balance in Advance 3. Essentially, charge up your partner, Sonic. Now hold R, but not A, and pause the game. Now release R, hold A, and unpause. You jump out of the boost. This means that X+Sonic teams have:
* Twice the jump height
* More than twice the effective jump length
* A boost that's even faster (by 20%) than in regular circumstances

Naturally, the records in Advance 3 were destroyed in a flash. Quartz, who had a hand in nitsuja's TAS with his videos and drawing his paths on the maps, was the main beneficiary, but I caught most of the way up, and Judgement has had a part to play as well.

Only five more to go! Have a guess at what they're gonna be :O

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on October 18, 2007, 07:42:00 am
#6 is very win

I also had no idea half of these tricks even existed (in particular 7 and 9)

looking forward to the final 5
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: magnum12 on October 18, 2007, 12:07:11 pm
For the final 5, I predict that SM's treasure hunting expertise and the TBG will be #1 and #2 respectively. #1 for being such a complete masterful discovery in the most boring parts of 3D Sonic games. #2 for being the most controversial issue in TSC history. It was so controversial that the controversy (and debate) lasted for over 2 years. I remember getting so pissed off about nothing being done about it last year that I decided to mega abuse it, proving just how broken/skillless it really was for use in competition.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on October 18, 2007, 07:48:33 pm
I was hoping this one went in.  Well, I'm content.  Now to see what remains
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 19, 2007, 06:10:26 am
Oh hey I owe you guys another addition to the list.

TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #5
Loop Jumping - Lots of cool stuff - FoxLuc


Some of you (*coughstefan*) might argue that this is intuitive. I don't think so, and I hope most of you see the logic to it.

Originally discovered in the hunt to optimise S3TA, the usefulness of the loop jump has evolved and been adapted to multiple games, including Sonic 1 and 2, possibly Pocket Adventure (I don't feel like checking), and surprisingly enough, Sonic Rush. Of course, its most glorified use is in the achievement of 0:24 on GH1 (including the variation referred to as an uploop jump), but it can be argued that other uses of it are more spectacular, such as the double and triple jumps in Azure Lake and Desert Palace.

This technique is so high on the list because it can be used anywhere with a loop, and that means across many games. As such its impact on competition, even if it is just shaving that extra second to tie or take the record, is immense. #5, in fact!

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
5. Loop jumping (FoxLuc)

Come on guys guess :( It's easy from here, I promise.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Crowbar on October 19, 2007, 11:38:01 am
When was Foxluc supposed to have discovered that? Because I was doing it back when I first got Sonic 1 more than 10 years ago. And I'm sure many others were too. :|
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 19, 2007, 04:34:46 pm
well...documented discovery >_>

should've been here crowbar to take the credit :p

also I have no guesses as I what I thought (or what little) isn't on the list.  I didn't even think goal ring skipping in SH would make it.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 20, 2007, 12:05:38 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #4
Screenwrap - Sonic 3 & Knuckles - SprintGod


Who didn't see this one coming? Before I'll begin I should point out that while Sprint discovered this trick and used it throughout a few levels in S3K, it was Upth that later went on to apply it to Metropolis 2 in Sonic 2~

So, screenwrapping. The art of confusing the Hell out of the game so that you may pass through otherwise solid objects. Now before some noob that's not in the know tries this and comes whining "it doesnt work!!11 :'(", this only works on levels that vertically wrap, such as Ice Cap 1, Marble Garden 1, Metropolis 2, Sky Sanctuary, you get the idea. Now while you can do this anywhere in the level, there's generally not much point unless, say, you're playing as Sonic and you're stood next to a barrier only Knuckles can break. First, duck, until the screen scrolls all the way down and stops. Now, release down and jump -immediately-. The camera will go haywire and start scrolling up until it locks back on to your current location, which takes around 2 seconds if I'm not mistaken. This is ample time to pass through a previously solid barrier.

Naturally, this has pretty epic impacts on the levels it affects. It takes Sky Sanctuary Time down immensely and allows for the collection of 999 rings in Marble Garden 1. It also allows for the epic "skip the boss" in Ice Cap 1 when playing just Sonic 3.

THE LIST OF STEADILY INCREASING EPICNESS :O

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
5. Loop jumping (FoxLuc)
4. Screenwrap (SprintGod)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on October 20, 2007, 06:56:58 pm
Didn't SDM show the collection of 999 rings without screenwrap?  Still, it makes it easier.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Groudon on October 21, 2007, 03:12:31 pm
Since the SH infinite fly discovery was corrected for who found it, I want to put in my side of it.

I don't remember when I first found out about it, but I'm pretty sure it was before sonicam got to the turtle area in Ocean Palace.  I remember reading it in a guide somewhere which I forget where it was (but damn, if I could remember, I'd surly post a link).  I had originally used this for no reason, but I finally revealed the trick for OP (which sonicam didn't) many months after finding out about the glitch.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 21, 2007, 10:21:35 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #3
Superglide - Lots of 2D stuff - Disputed


(Well, not so much disputed, as that I'm just not sure. I believe I found it independently, but the name and (I think) first use in a giz belongs to Aitamen. And I didn't feel right taking the credit when I wasn't entirely sure it was due.)

The superglide is, as many of you know, simply a case of jumping, then gliding just before hitting an enemy in order to bounce off it. You can then continue the glide as normal.

This opens up a number of possibilities in 2D. This technique can be used for the additional height, or in order to enable distance. It has effects from as far and wide as Sonic 2 to the Advance series, and widely varied uses: As examples:
Green Hill 2 (S1K hack): bounce off a fish to get a clear run to the end of the act, when gliding speed is so high that it would be considerably faster than spindashing
Aquatic Ruin 2: Bounce off either an enemy or an invincibility box, and again open an easy path to the end of the level
Egg Rocket: Bounce off a speed shoe to reach a higher platform, and also have a speed shoe.
Launch Base 2: Bounce off an aeroplane enemy to reach Sonic's path, then a chain reaction occurs which results in the timer stopping and not restarting when it should. Hence, much time can be cut.

RPG has #2 today, and I've got #1 tomorrow. We're approaching the end of the road, and also TSC's 4th birthday!

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
5. Loop jumping (FoxLuc)
4. Screenwrap (SprintGod)
3. Superglide (Unknown)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on October 21, 2007, 10:51:28 pm
and the number 2 epic discovery is...

SPINDASH!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on October 22, 2007, 05:14:35 pm
Egg Rocket: Bounce off a speed shoe to reach a higher platform, and also have a speed shoe.

In Egg Rocket you bounce off an invincibility box.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 22, 2007, 06:45:28 pm
TSC's EPIC DISCOVERY #2
Superbounce - Sonic Adventure 2 (Battle) - cybrax


So with just one more to go, this is a totally epic discovery. Not only does this look damn cool, it also has practical applications X)

[Some of this is, in fact, incorrect, but thats what you get for trusting my memory, refer to SM's post below for accurate details]

So, what do you do? First and foremost, this only works as Sonic, although the stage is irrelevant (for those of you that like to mess about with AR). Basically, you charge a spindash towards a wall, jump into just as you hit it and use the bounce bracelet. Depending on the speed you were travelling and how quickly you hit b, you'll go flying up into the air. Naturally this can create some amusing cicumstances.

This techniques primary abuse is on the Egg Golem boss fight with Sonic, which enables you to kill him in 23 seconds as opposed to over a minute. After this, Pyramid Cave succumbs to the next amount of raep from it, where it is used in numerous places throughout the level to skip things like slow climbs (and also the first key door). City Escape also has an absoluely insane shortcut (technically longcut now) whereby you superbounce up a wall just after the checkpoint after the gold beetle, go sailing over the level boundaries and land near the stairs leading to the truck chase. I also seem to recall SM attempting to find a way to snag the final checkpoint in Crazy Gadget using this trick and some massive gravity hax which would have enabled completion of the level in under a minute (probably).

So with just TSC's Most Epic Disovery to go we're approaching the end of the road, and are even closer TSC's 4th birthday! You can tell this is copypasta can't you!?

THE LIST WHICH IS NOW A TEENSY BIT SHORT OF TOTAL EPICNESS

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
5. Loop jumping (FoxLuc)
4. Screenwrap (SprintGod)
3. Superglide (Unknown)
2. Superbounce (cybrax)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 22, 2007, 06:56:45 pm
First, the superbounce works by pressing A+B simultaneously, resulting in a canceled and stored bounce that gets released based on the speed at which you hit a wall, provided it's fast enough.  It can even be done over small gaps provided you keep speed.

The Crazy Gadget 1:00 trick, at least the part that's an improvement over the current path, doesn't use superbounce.  It's just pulling a switch left, cheating death, and falling through void, hoping you land at just the right spot.  No bouncing needed. (As a side note, at this point I think the goal ring is too far away to hit after breaking out and falling for 10 seconds, but the Chao definitely seems close enough to reach and break 1:00 in m3.  Actually doing so is another matter.)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on October 22, 2007, 08:00:01 pm
Crazy gadget uses superbounce at the end (depending on your technique) as well as many times earlier on.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 23, 2007, 12:00:37 am
Here we go again. In conjunction with TSC's Fourth Birthday Celebrations is the announcement of the most epic discovery to date:

TSC's MOST EPIC DISCOVERY
Team Blast Glitch - Sonic Heroes - Disputed


Surprise!

TBG, I suppose, is probably more notorious than epic. After all it destroyed competition on Heroes for the better part of three years, making it virtually unplayable to the majority. Basically, if you switched partners and attacked in Flying formation at the same time, you would mysteriously gain about 1/3 of your Team Blast meter instantly. This means that Team Dark could simply TBG, Team Blast, TBG again, move forward for the remainder of the Team Blast, rinse and repeat. It had uses for the other teams too (mostly in boss arenas) but it was clearly most broken with Dark.

Major exponents of the TBG included Cybrax (some people attribute this find to him, but I think it was found earlier than that), Rayku, and later, smizzla and magnum12. In particular, magnum's runs brought the issue back on the table whereupon it was finally removed from TSC's charts.

THE COMPLETELY EPIC LIST

10. SH goal ring skipping (Chao_Fan)
9. S1GG flag (Sprint/RPG)
8. SA1 double spindash (Marth)
7. SH infinite fly (sonicam/smizzla)
6. SAdva3 boost jumping (nitsuja)
5. Loop jumping (FoxLuc)
4. Screenwrap (SprintGod)
3. Superglide (Unknown)
2. Superbounce (cybrax)
1. TBG (Unknown)

And that's it for another top ten!

Honourable mentions coming up in a few hours, because there's a lot of them. And also I have to leave in half an hour.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 23, 2007, 02:01:03 am
Honourable mention time!

This time around, it's epic discoveries that only applied to a single level. Including some of these may have made for a better main list, but a dodgy and dissociated honourable mention section. Which of the two is preferable is for you to decide.

Sonic 1 - Two recent tricks here:
Marble 2 - Jumping into the bottom of the shield on the platform and enabling a skip. This and the next one discovered by carrotero on TASvideos.
Scrap Brain 3 - Falling into the wall at the start of the act and skipping straight to the end.

Sonic 2
Hill Top 1 - While invincible (temporarily or otherwise), standing on a platform and falling through the lava. Discovered by Rolken
Death Egg - The 12-0. Not much more needs to be said.

Sonic CD
Collision Chaos 1 - Using the peelout with Speed Shoes against the left edge of the stage to initiate a level wrap. Discovered by Upthorn
Collision Chaos 3 - Peelout off a small ramp to clear the entire level, rather than playing the annoying boss. This is one of my very few finds
Metallic Madness 2 - After testing a similar strategy to what worked in CC3, Sprint found you could merely jump straight through the wall, saving approximately a minute.

Sonic 3
Marble Garden 2 - Home to a couple of strange glitches. On Sonic 3 alone, SDM discovered that you could take the spinning top up above the level, take it all the way to the end, and jump into Knuckles' boss area, which would make the screen turn black and you would reappear with tons of points (because it's actually executing the Special Stage completion code, possibly as a relic from Sonic 2). Later, smizzla went the other way and was able to simply fall into a wall, resulting in a simple level wrap to Knuckles' boss.

Sonic 3D
Rusty Ruin 3 - One of the most ingenious strats I have seen. SDM made the video of it, but I think others had the strat first. Basically, the boss is out of reach at the start, but jumping into it and taking a hit gets you just enough height to reach the hands in their high position! From here you can attack the boss easily, assuming you can stay on the hands from the rebound.

Sonic Adventure
Casinopolis - Already mentioned at #8, but it would never have been relevant if the original trick weren't found: with Sonic, you can spindash through certain walls on Dreamcast, which makes it possible to complete the level without collecting any rings at all. On Gamecube more walls are solid, which led to the discovery of the double spindash.
With Tails, there's a hole in the roof at the start of the level on Gamecube - and you can fly a straight line to the end of the level. Like Sonic, the level now falls under 15 seconds.
Ice Cap - The time stops when you exit act 2. Big mistake! You can simply fall out of the area where time is stopped without grabbing the snowboard, which means your time goes roughly to - you guessed it - 15 seconds.
In the snowboard section, there's one trick which was mentioned in the Third Anniversary Top Ten (for videos) - jumping onto a ramp before using it, which is surprisingly quicker through the air. Plus it looks awesome.
Twinkle Park - A glitch with Amy which cuts about 25 seconds. Not entirely sure on the specifics because it's a Dreamcast only trick.
E-101 mkII - A slight trick here, shooting Beta during the opening cutscene. This is basically a case of restarting until it falls your way.

Sonic Adventure 2
City Escape 3 - I remember seeing a Cybrax video of manipulating the loop and falling through the top of the building straight down to the Chao. Despite the fact that it's on video, it seems nobody knows how to recreate it.
Metal Harbor - Getting on the rocket in a couple of seconds. I mean seriously that looks totally awesome when it's done right.
Pumpkin Hill - Rayku's rising start. Took mission 3 down a bit, and the ideal 1 uses it too as does 2. The concept also helps in 5 to grab a shard, but it's not quite the same.
Aquatic Mine - Breaking out of bounds with the underwater glide wall grab, on a surface that's only grabbable on DC. This saves time in 3 and 5 (and, of course, 2).
Hidden Base - A recent trick allows you to skip doing things you would normally do, such as shooting out the dynamite blocks at the start of the level, and saves a few seconds on all missions. For once, it's a fake wall trick that's GC only.
Death Chamber - Breaking out of the level boundaries (traditionally through the same room that holds key 1 in mission 5, but there's a are three new breakout spots, two of which save considerable time on m3). This is obviously much quicker than the traditional water path.
Eternal Engine - Everyone knows this one. On Dreamcast you can skip the blowing-up-the-generator requirement at the end of the level and save about 15 seconds.
Meteor Herd 3 - Clipping the box with the Chao in it, saving much time on DC. This also applies to Mad Space 3.
Crazy Gadget - Abusing the few seconds it takes you to die once you move outside the kill plane to enter the goal ring. This has now been done in at least two different ways.
Dry Lagoon - The Mystic Melody-less methods to 3 and Treasure-Scope-less methods to 5, one of which has you mysteriously appear well above the room you would normally appear in after digging through a certain picture. The other just involves climbing into the underside of a wall on Dreamcast so that you actually go through the wall, from which it's easy to see the method for 5, but 3 requires a good imagination and precise aim. Time wise, it's not useful on either, but it still looks awesome.
Sand Ocean - The time freeze glitch. Time stops when you die, but in Sand Ocean you're not quite dead when the time stops. If in between those two moments you use a spring to get yourself out, then time is stopped for the remainder of the level. And doing this is quicker than any of the mission objectives, so the time is the same for all missions.
Lost Colony - Same as Eternal Engine, but not nearly as useful, or well-known. Still saves a few seconds, enough to make the difference at the top. Additionally, a hover jump can take you over the first barricade of cages without using the missile, saving a small amount of time.
Weapons Bed 3 - Breaking into the Chao area through the back door.
Security Hall 5 - On Dreamcast, Screw Kick actually attacks through the safes. On Gamecube, you have to undertake two additional tasks for the blue emerald: opening the lower level of safes (which can be done on a previous life) and stopping the weight (which cannot).
Route 280 2 - Discovered pre-TSC, this allows you to complete a 100 ring mission in, quite literally, no time at all. Collect 99 rings, and boost into a 100th which sends you into a pit. There's a few more intricacies to get it down to 0 seconds, which SM has detailed in his guide (http://www.soniccenter.org/guides/guide78).
Cosmic Wall - One new find has enabled at least three new results: an infinite score sequence that's faster than any other in the game (earning 6000 points every second), an addition of 10 rings to the maximum for missions 1 and 5, and a massive shortcut taking mission 1 under four minutes.
Cannon's Core 1 - My original choice for #1 before we changed to glitches that were useful across a game. You need to manipulate your save file, play mission 2, finish as Knuckles, enter Chao World as Robotnik, then reappear in CC1 Sonic and do a permanent time stop for a total time of seven seconds. This method is condemned to freestyle, but there's plenty of other tricks in the legitimate run which deserve mention.
The permanent stop is one such thing. As Sonic, you have to spindash-jump out of the way. As Rouge, you have to quickly Drill Dive out of the way.
Knuckles' section is also cut considerably thanks to clipping your way out of Rouge's section and gliding around to the finish.
Egg Golem - Hero is covered under Superbounce, at #2. Dark has recently gone to 12 seconds courtesy of yoshifan, and nobody really knows how yet. Hopefully he'll tell us >_>
Biolizard - My brother discovered you could make your way up Biolizard's body while it was still, and I extended this to being able to attack while it was moving. This took the time down two minutes all at once.

Sonic Heroes
Casino Park CE - Da1AndOnlySonic discovered Thunder Shooting into a small slot, which paid rings for every single icon on the reel in quick time as a reliable way to 500. Slightly too slow to be the record time, but a reliable red time.
Egg Emperor - A Thunder Shoot can get stuck in EE's weak spot, ending the fight in as little as 20 seconds. Shoot both your teammates at it for double the fun!

Shadow
Lethal Highway Hero - I still don't agree that this should be legal, but the ingenuity of the strat should not be called into question. Basically the... thing... you have to destroy requires 175 hits from a certain gun. The strat involves getting 174 of them, dying (multiple times), and launching into a homing attack as soon as it comes within range on the next life. 8"44 is currently believed to be perfect here.

Sonic 1 GG
Bridge 1 - S1GG's physics dictate that while Sonic is not on the ground, rolling greatly increases his speed. Sprint used this to great advantage off the seesaws.
Sky Base 2 - Two separate finds here, one of which took the time to 12, the other to 8. First, you were able to jump straight up to the last section with the guns. Then, you worked through the level normally, until jumping onto the top of the building you enter at the end of the level, then drop down and walk in.

Sonic Pocket Adventure
Aerobase - RPG found out that you could use the small pods that the chicken enemies pop out of as steep ramps, enabling massive vertical moves through the level. He's been bugging me to put this in, but I think he's overestimated its usefulness >_>

And that's it for this iteration of the Top Tens! Join us in April for the next edition!

~yse and RPG
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Thorn on October 23, 2007, 11:44:17 am
Quote from: mike89
Aerobase - RPG found out that you could use the small pods that the chicken enemies pop out of as steep ramps, enabling massive vertical moves through the level. He's been bugging me to put this in, but I think he's overestimated its usefulness >_>

Allow me to cap RPG's excitement a bit further... how exactly does he think I held the record for a short while before he did without using this? >_> But yeah, this isn't really an epic discovery, just, like... a quirk. The rest of the list is for games people actually play, anyway. :P
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Jawzunx on October 23, 2007, 12:31:33 pm
I discovered an useful trick for SA(DX) with Sonic.
I call it Fake Homming Attack
 How to do it: Press A+B fast (press A first) in mid-air from a normal jump and you'll see how Sonic does a faster and longer 'homming attack'.
Try it against an enemy and you'll get hurt cause by pressing B you cancel homming attack, that's why I call it Fake Homming Attack.
If you know how to use this technique well, you can save a bit of time on every stage to TA it.

The easiest example:
 Go to Speed Highway, to the top of that big building.
 Everyone does spindashjump (followed by a homming attack to land near the speedshoes) here, well, I don't.
My method is:
 -Charge a spindash
 -Hold A and release B to float a bit (This is another trick F-Man told me once)
 -and then I do my fake homming attack trick.

So I don't need to jump

This saves around 1.5 - 2 seconds beacuse I could touch the rocket (which takes you to the highway with the loop) at mid 13 once!!

Here is a list with the stages in an order I personally think this saves more time:


1.-Speed Highway: Don't need to jump at the building. Total time saved: 3 seconds, yep, 1:02 is possible.
2.-Emerald Coast: OMG I touched 2nd checkpoint at 8.08 thanks to it (using my shortcut). Total time saved: 1.50 seconds
3.-Sky Deck: at the end it's easier to get to the capsule. Total time saved: 1 second
4.-Casinopolis (GC): Jumping from the boat to that corner you have to get through is easier and faster. Total time saved: 1 second
5.-Windy Valley: I can get a high 19 Act2 using it. Total time saved: 1 second
6.-Lost World: Snake room and maybe in the dark room too. Total time saved: not sure yet
7.-Icecap, Twinkle Park and Final Egg: useless?


 
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Thorn on October 23, 2007, 12:32:58 pm
In before lock for 500th post!

...owait this isn't GameFAQs...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 23, 2007, 12:34:21 pm
In before lock for 500th post!

...owait this isn't GameFAQs...
Glad you noticed. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 23, 2007, 04:05:40 pm
Twinkle Park - A glitch with Amy which cuts about 25 seconds. Not entirely sure on the specifics because it's a Dreamcast only trick.
Nope, all systems supported. I do it on GameCube.

1.-Final Egg (DC): Don't charge light dash and go to the capsule with fake homming attack. Total time saved (3 seconds?)
I can't reach the capsule doing this.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 23, 2007, 06:00:27 pm
Heh, I actually got into the top-10... kinda ^_^

Eh, it's mostly that I like cool-sounding names for the shit I do in-game, and some of it sticks from time to time... YAY!

That, and my AR2K strat, which isn't completely mine, the end was given thanks to M89 telling me about something bizzare that happened to him once ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Jawzunx on October 24, 2007, 05:12:25 am
1.-Final Egg (DC): Don't charge light dash and go to the capsule with fake homming attack. Total time saved (3 seconds?)
I can't reach the capsule doing this.

That sucks :(
I thought it would be possible.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Rayku on November 19, 2007, 11:08:27 pm
About the Team Blast Glitch: I had nothing to do with it. I merely tried to exploit its usefulness in Boss Time Attack.

I did, however, discover the superbounce, although I never told anyone about it, so I guess that's why I'm not credited with anything. That's fine, I guess I deserve that much.

The main thing I have an issue with is that I did not, in any way, contribute to the discovery of the TBG. I just don't want credit where credit isn't due
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Antronach on November 27, 2007, 04:11:49 am
*looks at the posts*

0_o I'm on here? Wow.  That's boredom for ya. ^_^;
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on March 22, 2008, 09:06:32 am
What's that? It's Top Ten time again?

Not quite yet, we're still three weeks away. But we have to start thinking about a category, and we don't have one yet!

Suggestions will be entertained.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: EngiNerd on March 23, 2008, 01:11:41 pm
Top-ten surprises.  Revelations that came so far out of left field that nobody saw what hit them.  The current main page topic comes immediately to mind <_< but it could be like, surprise risings in the ranks, surprise changes in gameplay, surprise discovery of cheaters, whatever.  But surprises.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Shadow Jacky on March 24, 2008, 02:22:17 am
top ten BSer's
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Crowbar on March 24, 2008, 07:18:39 am
Holy shit, SJ, I was literally thinking exactly that as I clicked on the thread just now.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: EngiNerd on March 24, 2008, 08:20:09 am
*Minus likes SJ's idea better.  Minus thinks it may make more sense to me when I hear exactly how the 4 n00bs of the apocalypse came into being.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Strong Bad on March 24, 2008, 07:31:16 pm
Top Ten Sonic 3 Time Attack players? 8D
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: magnum12 on March 24, 2008, 09:05:16 pm
My votes
1. Top 10 most shocking surprises
2. Top 10 worst cheaters
3. Top 10 biggest idiots (n00bs, trolls, super fanboys, morons, etc).
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Thorn on March 24, 2008, 09:07:21 pm
I really don't think we should be awarding stupidity, but maybe that's just me.

Maybe something like "10 biggest competition breakers", since in the last two months most of the charts have been thrashed. :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Taillow on March 24, 2008, 09:08:32 pm
I thought there was a planned "10 top 'single-game' breakers" or something.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Stefan on March 25, 2008, 01:02:02 pm
I think I might be talking about the same thing that Quartz is, but last time around I suggested a top ten for people who dominated a single game (maybe 2 or 3), rather than did well across multiple games. It still seems like a fun idea to me.

1 vote for "Top Ten One Trick Ponies"
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: PsyMar on March 30, 2008, 12:40:43 pm
"Top 10 most sitewide points gained in one month/the past year"
or
"Top 10 most places moved up on sitewide chart in one month/the past year"
or
"Top 10 most points reduced in one game/all games in one month/the past year"
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: yse on April 01, 2008, 06:57:20 am
Category: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time

I want to put this out there before we begin: This will be our last top ten.

This will be the sixth iteration of the Top Tens, and we've had heaps of fun with it, and I hope you have too. But RPG and I are both tiring of it somewhat, and from a personal perspective as my involvement with the site lessens I'll find it hard to keep tabs on everything anyway.

However, fear not! I'm going to leave the topic open for another duo to take up. And the next time will be the Fifth Anniversary so make it big!

Anyway, on with the show. This top ten will, as the name suggests, list the achievements of the Top Ten of All Time: the very best of the best. Criteria will include:
* Level of awesome attained here, obviously
* Level of community involvement
* Invisible cool points accumulated over time
* Cool stuff done at other sites (The Elite, Fzero Central, mariokart64, etc - Cyberscore of course is not included)

The countdown starts now! 13 days to go!
Title: Re: The Top Ten Sonic players in TSC's history!
Post by: Zeupar on April 01, 2008, 07:13:17 am
:o

*speculates*

I fully support this category! :D

Sadly, it's the last Mike & Dan Top Ten. :(

For the next ones I think Thorn and Skylights would fit as thinkers. Both have competed on many games and know them well, are good players and are crazy TSCers that spend hours on our site checking its stuff.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: douglas on April 01, 2008, 07:16:42 am
I can throw my hat in the ring for helping with the next one, although my competition knowledge is limited to 2D players really.  So long as we can still hit you and RPG (and everyone else, natch) for advice, should be all good.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 01, 2008, 09:08:25 pm
ah damn...I'd be lucky if I'm even an honorable mention :(

there's a ton of others who have done more than me.  I think I can actually name a few :O
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 01, 2008, 09:14:27 pm
I think you forgot about this (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/shadow_jacky). :P
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Taillow on April 01, 2008, 09:17:53 pm
Nooooooo!  I mean yes!   No!  Yes!  No!

Well, if people take it up, only yes.  About time it was top 10 of all time again.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 02, 2008, 12:42:28 am
Zeupar thanks, but it doesn't add up to the amount of win others have achieved throughout TSC's history.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 02, 2008, 12:48:55 am
:O!!! The top ten of all time!?!?!

I'm surely not number 1, but hopefully somewhere in the top ten. :D
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 02, 2008, 06:30:08 am
Zeupar thanks, but it doesn't add up to the amount of win others have achieved throughout TSC's history.


* Level of awesome attained here, obviously: What I linked. You are champion of the second most played game here, have discovered a lot of stuff, have even more records than Mike and you are Sitewide Rankings' 5th... Damn, you are a prominent member! <_<
* Level of community involvement: You are here from the beginning and are around the chat all days. You have submitted 1446 stats.
* Invisible cool points accumulated over time: You help other players and are one of the most pleasant TSCers. Also, you are modest (well, morelike somewhere between modest and pesismist). You make me laught many times. I think you have many invisible cool points for that reasons.
* Cool stuff done at other sites (The Elite, Fzero Central, mariokart64, etc - Cyberscore of course is not included): Nothing to say here. Anyway, I don't understand what has to do this with being a good TSCer. :s

So stop being as pesimist and modest as usual, I'm sure you will get at least an honourable mention and would bet you will be in the top ten.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 02, 2008, 03:37:37 pm
;_;

thanks Zeupar.  I did used to compete at SMBElite though (before it was called EliteScores), although it didn't last as long as I liked and it was pretty dead there most of the time.  still, it was awesome being there and I learned a lot about Monkey Ball.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 03, 2008, 07:21:23 pm
This is a good opportunity to make that Hall of Fame maggot suggested (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2149.0) a year ago.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 03, 2008, 11:02:32 pm
it would be a good time to implement that now.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 04, 2008, 01:11:35 am
I agree...GerbilSoft, get to work. >:(
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 13, 2008, 06:24:13 am
Official Opening

Welcome to The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time, our sixth and last Top Ten list.

For this iteration, we honour those who have made TSC what it is. Those that completely changed the face of competition, those that took it to unprecedented levels, and those who tried their little asses off but weren't quite good enough. (Bonus points for guessing who I'm referring to with this one after the Top Ten's over!)

RPG's leading off tomorrow with the #10, then it's back to me. It'll be set out like it used to be. And we promise we'll do proper bios this time. Or you can have my shiny Bronzong*. Or RPG's. I'm really not fussed.

The usual speculation should follow.

* I do not, in fact, have a shiny Bronzong, or even know what the fuck a shiny Bronzong is.

EDIT: I lied, RPG has the first two.

RPG EDIT: And you're not having my Shiny Bronzong, you damn jew.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Groudon on April 13, 2008, 01:39:11 pm
Shiny Bronzong (http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/aa/Spr_4d_437_s.png)

I'm throwing out a guess and thinking DsS will be somewhere on this list.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 13, 2008, 07:12:39 pm
yay it starts ^_^
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 14, 2008, 07:52:22 am
I guess these players will be in the top ten (alphabetically ordered): DarkspinesSonic, eredani, Mike89, NintenDan, Shadow Jacky, SkyLights, smizzla, SprintGod, Thorn and Yoshifan.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Magnezone on April 14, 2008, 09:34:51 pm
rpg is a noob
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 15, 2008, 01:41:33 am
That he is.

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #10
Shaun "Cybrax" Khoeis:
The Innovator

And so, our Top Tens end the way they began. With one of the greats of the toughest competition of all.

To fully appreciate Cybrax's input to TSC, we have to go back to the very beginning. To the GameFAQs days. The days of 2 minute CE1s. When Cybrax had 1'53"70. He was that sort of player, obsessed with pushing the game to the limit. Of course, we know the limits better today, but that is no fault of the early players.

Mind you, it's not like there was no incentive to improve back in 2003/4. Back then there was SS101, Rayku, RPGnutter, and SM keeping him company at the top of the list. But Cybrax, like eredani and many of our other best players, had that nagging habit of getting a record back from a competitor in double-quick time.

The story, as compiled from previous Top Ten entries, of Cybrax's rise and fall is thus: In April 2004 RPG and SS101 attacked Cybrax's times fiercely to take the championship off him, which fell to RPG for a single day and then to SS101 until about August, when Cybrax went on his last rampage leaving everyone in no doubt who the champ was. And then Rayku came along to steal the throne. And so on and so forth.

A sad day passed on the 23rd of February this year when Jawzun made an incredible 1'10"60 City Escape 3, in the process taking Cybrax's very last untied record. But records are made to be broken, such is the nature of competition.

Cheers to Cybrax! And jeers to RPG for being an asshole about this!

Cybrax's TSC Profile (#68) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/cybrax)
Cybrax's MKDD Profile (#200) (http://www.mariokart64.com/mkdd/profile.php?pid=66)

THE TOP TEN

#10: Cybrax
#9: ???
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Also, if you were in the chat and wondered who I was rolling the dice over, it was RPG, Douglas and Quartz. Sorry guys, but you were all really close.

I should shatter more dreams on my next post too!
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Buizel on April 15, 2008, 01:48:07 am
For the record, mike had initially rolled a 1 on the die (which would've corresponded to RPG) but then immediately rolled again.

Not that I have a problem with someone else being #10. >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 15, 2008, 01:51:10 am
I miss Cybrax :/

he had a knack for to get you motivated and always liked to see improvements on any game he played on.  I remember how excited he was on MSN messenger (I dont have it anymore so no) and all of the videos he'd send me (stupid dial-up back then). 
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Taillow on April 15, 2008, 01:53:09 am
If you rolled a die, I called tied 10.  Write an article for the rest of us.  And give us titles. >_>
/me shot

But seriously, any chance you'll explain in honorable mentions?
/me shot again.

Dunno what to say.  Never knew Cybrax.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: P.P.A. on April 15, 2008, 05:05:13 am
maggot for top ten! He's like the eternal Sonic CD champion. :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic [In need of a category for V4.5]
Post by: Zeupar on April 15, 2008, 06:27:54 pm
* Cool stuff done at other sites (The Elite, Fzero Central, mariokart64, etc)

So this point has a lot of weight... :s Cybrax wasn't even in the last Universal Top Ten (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=947.msg11937#msg11937).
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Strong Bad on April 15, 2008, 10:31:27 pm
One-trick-ponies should get in the top 10. :o
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 16, 2008, 08:55:23 pm
Okay that does it. RPG is off the top ten. This whole list belongs to me now. I simply cannot trust him to get any work done.

Without further adieu:

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #9
Daniel "NintenDan" Zurad:
The more trustworthy Dan!

(Apologies for the rant entering the top ten entry, but you know, I am kinda upset by this. :/)

NintenDan's time at TSC goes way back to December of 2003. If my memory serves, he posted one record time in Sonic Advance that day, and then left it alone for a little while.

Enter March 1, 2004.

Sonic Advance was swept. The era of mike89-Rolken domination was over!

Oh yeah and he did some cool stuff on SA2 as well. His timesheet now is pretty damn similar to what it was back then, and some of the times still hold up (particularly Weapons Bed 1).

Then, let us not forget the long-running rivalry on Sonic Advance 2 which RPG was supposed to be writing about but slacked off on. You know, the one where NintenDan had crappy bosses and worked on them to get to the top and then random time smashing commenced from both parties?

Come 2005, I got the Sonic Advance championship back for one day. Specifically, July 7 2005, the day we returned from the abyss of the great downtime. The next day NintenDan was back to 1p and all was well.

Oh, and he could play Sonic and Knuckles too. Lava Reef 1 K 1:33: nobody's even come close to it, even with a video!

NintenDan also applied his awesomeness to SDA in runs of Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure (with Amy).

But as we all know, the real reason NintenDan's on the list is because of moments like this:

Apr 17 00:52:43 <Tac0> hello hello hello
Apr 17 00:52:45 <Tac0> is anyone here?
Apr 17 00:52:47 <Tac0> hello hello hello
Apr 17 00:52:48 <oldskoolgamer101> hello
Apr 17 00:52:56 <Tac0> uh oh over
Apr 17 00:53:03 <Tac0> we got an uh oh, over
Apr 17 00:53:13 <oldskoolgamer101> ?
Apr 17 00:53:24 <Tac0> chopper dave, chopper dave, we got an uh oh, this is not a drill, ove
Apr 17 00:53:36 <Tac0> also hi
Apr 17 00:53:38 <Tac0> what is you doing here?
Apr 17 00:53:44 <Tac0> I thought you is gonez?
Apr 17 00:53:53 <oldskoolgamer101> do I...know you?
Apr 17 00:53:56 <Tac0> or maybe is is been gonz to longz
Apr 17 00:54:06 <Tac0> or maybe I'm mixing people up again
Apr 17 00:54:36 <Tac0> I would hope so >_>
Apr 17 00:54:47 <Tac0> oh well whatever
Apr 17 00:54:58 <Tac0> I don't know half the new people around here anyway, so it doesn't really matter I guess
Apr 17 00:55:02 <oldskoolgamer101> sorry I have no idea who you are lol
Apr 17 00:55:09 * GerbilSoft (GerbilSoft@SCnet-BDD3567E.dhcp.drexel.edu) has joined #soniccenter
Apr 17 00:55:09 * ChanBot gives voice to GerbilSoft
Apr 17 00:55:16 <Tac0> well then who are you?
Apr 17 00:55:21 <oldskoolgamer101> but I am not new, just have not been here for years
Apr 17 00:55:31 <Tac0> well exactly, that's what I meant
Apr 17 00:55:41 <GerbilSoft> fail
Apr 17 00:55:54 <Tac0> thats why I am confused as to your current presence here
Apr 17 00:56:01 <oldskoolgamer101> not regularly anyway. last time I was here regularly was when shadowgamer196 used to be a regular chat attendee
Apr 17 00:56:21 <Tac0> yep, I remember that guy
Apr 17 00:56:35 <Tac0> he was always...shadowgamering...

Congratulations!

NintenDan's TSC Profile (#39) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/nintendan)
NintenDan's Sonic Advance speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/SonicAdvance.html)
NintenDan's Sonic Adventure (Amy) speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/SonicAdventure.html#AmySS)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: ???
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Oh and time to crush more dreams! RR, Stef and Zeph aren't on the list >:D
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 16, 2008, 09:28:05 pm
TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #8
Chris "Shadow Jacky" Chism:
3D's Elite

SJ is member 6, so he goes right back to the beginnings of TSC. Back then he played SADX with Cybrax and F-Man, and tended to be the one who got left behind by those two. But who's got the last laugh now!

After about the start of 2004 we didn't see much of SJ. However, proof of the awesomeness of the concept of the Top Tens came after the very first iteration, when it single-handedly brought SJ back into the fold. And what a player we have regained!

SJ's original stomping ground, SADX, was left by the wayside as he took on Sonic Heroes and Shadow. The videos page is full of his work in those two games.

Later, SJ played games taking him more out of his comfort zone. A few months ago, I played Sonic 3D Blast for a couple of days and got to 80% and 4th place. After making a point of how easy it was, a few people intent on stealing my glory went and actually played it properly, SJ and DsS being the two most prominent. Thorn's championship never stood a chance, and SJ sits at the top today with 99%.

I suppose the reason SJ is in the top ten is for that uncanny ability to set records that seem out of reach even for those TSCers styling themselves "elite". There's a few examples in Sonic Heroes of him being half a minute or more ahead of second place, which is not to belittle the achievements of those on the second tier because they tend to be the eredanis and DsSes of our site, just show that SJ is, and has been for some time, the master of 3D Sonic.

Congratulations!

Shadow Jacky's TSC Profile (#4) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/shadow_jacky)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: ???
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

And in terms of crushing dreams, now I'm going to say that Cherry, Ink and Upth are going to miss out. Sorry :((
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 16, 2008, 10:55:14 pm
;_;

man, now I feel bad for leaving SADX so soon.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 16, 2008, 11:47:08 pm
RR isn't on the list because he fails. >_>

But my dreams have not been crushed yet!
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 17, 2008, 12:57:53 am
apparently there are individuals who are in a disagreement over my position >_>

Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 17, 2008, 01:03:04 am
apparently there are individuals who are in a disagreement over my position >_>

Like? <_<
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 17, 2008, 11:46:51 pm
Clearly SJ should've been higher.

Next!

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #7
Ronald "SkyLights" Tallman:
Tikal's Partner in Crime

(I was contemplating AHHHHetc but in the interest of aesthetics and space, I relented. Consider yourselves lucky.)

SkyLights actually didn't join TSC until December 2005! I was as surprised by this as many of you were. I thought he'd been around since before the downtime... but there you go.

Incidentally, this is about when Sonic Rush charts were added to TSC so I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise. And indeed it is this game that SkyLights has made his own since he's been here.

In fact, since first taking the championship soon after the charts were added, SkyLights has not been champion of Sonic Rush for approximately four weeks: two when Crowbar took a slight lead in June 2006, and the past two weeks when SDM finally took the lead.

Further to that, SkyLights can play other games too! At one stage he held the record for most championships (five; Rush, Rush Adventure, Triple Trouble, SSR and S&K), of which two are very well competed in and the other three... not so much.

SkyLights almost lost awesome points for AHHHHing in the chat all the time, but as it turns out only MK thinks that's bad I've decided that it doesn't count against him.

Congratulations!

SkyLights's TSC Profile (#7) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/skylights)
SkyLights's awesome sprite (http://skylights1.googlepages.com/pyramidultimate.PNG)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: ???
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

No crushing dreams today :(
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Magnezone on April 18, 2008, 01:05:26 am
:o

Also sonichero had the Rush champ once before Crowbar did. You can guess how long he held it; you guys don't even remember it >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 18, 2008, 01:23:07 pm
congrats SkyLights, this list is certainly becoming interesting. 
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 19, 2008, 09:22:40 pm
OH CRAP I'M BEHIND AGAIN

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #6
Joe "stanski" Stanski:
FU shut it!

(This is more of a nod to SDA than TSC, but I feel it's still warranted.)

A trip down memory lane. I first remember running into stanski on SDA back in 2005. I'm pretty sure he wanted his first big project to be Sonic 2, so I (or possibly someone else) directed him here, as we have directed so many others in the past, though none of them proved to have the skill and (especially) perseverance that stanski has proven to have.

Flash forward a few months and, not only does stanski have a 20:02 speedrun on SDA, but a 0p championship here. And still he continues to improve in the quest for a better speedrun. Next comes 18:54, and finally the current record of 18:12! Back when I was the champion that was an acceptable sum of level totals.

Lately stanski has diversified in the speedrunning community, branching out to Toy Story and Dark Castle, the latter of which he also contributed to a TAS of.

And finally, I leave you with stanski's legacy. Controller standards. Personally, I believe we all should carry these standards into our daily lives. Controllers must:


Congratulations!

stanski's TSC Profile (#22) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/stanski)
stanski's Dark Castle speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/DarkCastle.html)
stanski's Sonic 2 speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Sonic2.html) (and individual level videos (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Sonic2.html#IL))
stanski's Toy Story speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/ToyStory.html)
Aqfaq & stanski's Dark Castle TAS (http://tasvideos.org/790M.html)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: ???
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

#5 coming up tonight, then I'm back on schedule. I think.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 20, 2008, 06:49:31 am
TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #5
Gavin "SprintGod" Ward:
The Perfectionist

If this looks familiar to you, you read the top tens too much. In truth, not much about Sprint's position at TSC has changed since I placed him #2 in the first Top Ten, so what follows is... pretty similar to what I wrote then. >_>

Sprint is a player very much unlike any other here at TSC. I know my philosophy to time attacking is something like "Post a full bracket of times, then work on the worst ones until you achieve #1." Sprint goes the completely opposite way, in effect: "Play one level, and play it and play it until it's perfect. Repeat for all levels in the game, then go back and beat them all for good measure."

Sprint joined on the 17th of March 2004, so while he hasn't been around here for as long as the founding members, he's still been with us for a while. His first act was to post his Sonic CD times, which he'd been working on for a long time. Let's put the magnitude of this into perspective.

Before Sprint joined, SM owned the Sonic CD charts with all but one record.

When he posted his times, Sprint became the new champion, leaving SM with just 3 of his 27 records. And all this without collaboration (from us, at least). That alone would've put Sprint in the top ten. But no, that wasn't enough, no way.

The next game Sprint would turn his sights on was Sonic 3. He then proceeded to obliterate every single one of my times up to Marble Garden 1 (though the progress was very slow, and now nonexistent). Probably lucky he never finished his bracket here, as I would've lost my championship in a snap. It took a while, but I finally did lose it. To my own brother. The shame...

Probably his greatest achievement in Sonic 3, however, isn't listed at TSC. He submitted this to Bisqwit's site back in May of 2005, a GMV of Sonic 3 and Knuckles being completed as Sonic in a mere 45 minutes (closer to 36 minutes if you just count level times). The recording contained a massive 160000 re-records! Another example of Sprint's immense patience. This has, of course, been beaten by nitsuja since (and recently Upthorn has added his improvements), with the aid of far greater tools, including Tails.

Back in July 2005, I challenged Sprint to beat my Sonic 1 and 2 times for Game Gear, as I held both championships at 1 point and 0 points respectively and felt reasonably confident of my times holding up. How wrong I was. With the aid of a few physics quirks, Sprint didn't just tie, but BEAT almost every single one of them, smashing my old totals into the ground. And all in three days!

Notable of Sprint's dominance is that he records just about every single time he sets. This obviously requires an even greater commitment in time, internet usage and whatever else. It also sends a message to any who would challenge him, saying that "I've got so much confidence that this time will stand, that I'll even show you how to do it and I still think you'll be unable to beat me!"

Sprint sporadically comes back and beats his SCD times, but that tends to be it. And he never did complete his Sonic 3 bracket.

Nevertheless, congratulations on a top five finish!

SprintGod's TSC Profile (#18) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/sprintgod)
SprintGod's TAS library (http://tasvideos.org/Movies-57up-Obs.html)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: SprintGod
#4: ???
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

Will the next player be another one starting with S? Only time will tell!

Also mad props for guessing the top four in order.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Combo on April 20, 2008, 09:07:26 pm
Congratulations to those who had made it so far. I can't wait to see who are the 4 that are left.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 20, 2008, 09:21:04 pm
TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #4
Michael "mike89" McKenzie:
Being obsoleted by the day

(I really hate writing about myself. This is why we had the rule that RPG and I couldn't write about ourselves in the top tens. But we'll see how this goes.)

As you can tell, I've dropped myself a few places since we did this last. It basically turned out I didn't have high enough standards to compete with the very best any more, so putting myself any closer to #1 simply wouldn't be fair to those who can churn out the impossible stats time after time. (This should give you a good idea of who the remaining three are!)

I'm one of those lucky few who were around at the very beginning and remember how awesome the site was around 2004. Maybe it would've been better if Rolken was right about having as many as 100 members... but I digress. When I first joined I had my Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure 2 times added, the former of which I was champion of by default (because there were no other competitors at the time). Then Rolken posted his timesheet and my first rivalry began. Until we were both stopped in our tracks by NintenDan (see #9) around March.

Having always been among my favourite games of all time, the GeneDrive (thanks SBW) games were always going to be among the best for me to compete in, and so it proved when I took Sonic 2, 3 and Knuckles and held them all for some time. Sonic 2 fell to Aitamen and later stanski, Sonic and Knuckles went back and forth with eredani, and Sonic 3 I held for about three years, until my brother took it.

Next to be added were the Game Gear games, which I always thought were a bit of a laugh. Having never played any but the first two before, I downloaded them just to have a look how they played. I ended up taking the championship for all but Triple Trouble at some stage. As for who superseded me, Sonic 1 and 2 went to Sprint, Chaos I believe eredani beat me on first, before we knew how PAL affected the game, and Drift and Drift 2 were thrown around by a couple of players; RPG, PsyBorg, SS101 and later DsS among them.

And then along came Sonic Advance 3. You guys all know that this is my favourite Sonic since the GeneDrive era, so it comes as no surprise that I was once very good at it. NintenDan was the first dominant player, with that Chaos Angel 3 video, then, as I recall, blueblaze put lots of BS stats up to make himself the champion, but I eventually passed even him for the championship. After which he was banned and I got a massive lead, and I think it took Quartz, the successor to NintenDan as the Advance series master, to mow me down.

Then came the Great Downtime. When the site was restored I was among the first players to submit and the temporary record of ten championships that I held at that time is still a record today, and probably unlikely to ever be beaten. I tend to revise the record to 7 because that's how many I had when the dust settled (including NintenDan regaining his 0p Advance championship), and I think even that still stands, possibly tied.

But more importantly from my perspective, I found myself about 400 points off the SA2B championship. The first day after the downtime I knocked off another 100, and I began to believe I could reach my final, and greatest, target. Another such day followed before RPG decided he'd had enough, and he and SS101 moved away even quicker, ending my only real run at the Crown Jewel.

The next major event for me after that was the advent of the Top Tens! This is why you all love me and, to a lesser extent, RPG today, because let's face it, you all look forward to this, don't you?

Hot on its heels was the Sonic Olympics. Not much needs to be said about this because it's all been said before, it's done and dusted, and the old barriers have been broken down to some extent with SDM being active in both communities (as far as I know, anyway).

The next two years have proven that at TSC, you can't rest on your laurels for one moment. I've found it increasingly difficult to get back into games the longer I stay away from them, and as a result I have been knocked out of every single championship I once possessed, and more recently out of my coveted #1 sitewide position.

However I did do other cool things in that time, such as compete in Mario Kart DS, F-Zero MV, and submit a few speedruns and a TAS.

Go me!

mike89's TSC Profile (#3) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/mike89)
mike89's MKDS Profile (#227) (http://www.mariokart64.com/mkds/profile.php?pid=825)
mike89's Banjo-Tooie speedrun (with Cheato's cheats) (http://speeddemosarchive.com/BanjoTooie.html#SSCheato)
mike89's Sonic 3 & Knuckles speedruns (Sonic/Knuckles) (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Sonic3Knuckles.html)
mike89's Vectorman 2 speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/Vectorman2.html)
mike89's Sonic 2 (SMS) TAS (http://tasvideos.org/1019M.html)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: SprintGod
#4: mike89
#3: ???
#2: ???
#1: ???

PS, you all suck at guessing!
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Combo on April 20, 2008, 09:30:35 pm
DsS, Smizzla and eredani?
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: EngiNerd on April 20, 2008, 09:36:58 pm
Rolken's on this list.  Why?  Because even though he doesn't compete much, there would be literally ZERO TSC without him.  He holds the keys, man.  All of them.  Even the ones in Mad Matrix.
*shot*
And RPG for the LOL.  Can't imagine this place without the maniac.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 21, 2008, 12:56:30 am
As you can tell, I've dropped myself a few places since we did this last. It basically turned out I didn't have high enough standards to compete with the very best any more, so putting myself any closer to #1 simply wouldn't be fair to those who can churn out the impossible stats time after time. (This should give you a good idea of who the remaining three are!)

...that would seem like me, smizzla, and eredani!!!  Though I fear smizzla will be number 1, hopefully I will be. :/

temporary record of ten championships that I held at that time is still a record today, and probably unlikely to ever be beaten. I tend to revise the record to 7 because that's how many I had when the dust settled (including NintenDan regaining his 0p Advance championship), and I think even that still stands, possibly tied.

There was one time where I held 7 championships.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Taillow on April 21, 2008, 01:05:51 am
...that would seem like me, smizzla, and eredani!!!
Hopefully in that order!  Or Dhaos 3/Eredani 2/Smizzla 1.  I dunno, and frankly, I'll wait and find out.  Good so far.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 21, 2008, 02:52:41 am
I still have hopes for yoshifan, f-man (even though he stopped a long time ago), and uh....crap I forgetting someone >_<
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: P.P.A. on April 21, 2008, 06:53:08 am
#1 will be sonicandamy.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 21, 2008, 07:24:13 am
Sonic or Amy? >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 21, 2008, 08:32:57 am
(Doing this now cause I am not going to have time tomorrow morning)

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #3
eredani:
The Silent Assassin

(Other candidates included the Swede of Speed (stolen from SDA), which might've worked in, y'know, 2005, when we only tracked times.)

Would it really be a top ten without eredani? Ever since joining in late 2005, he has perhaps best epitomised what I've been saying about those "impossible" stats. As I have mentioned in a previous top ten, when eredani joined he was so good so fast, I had a very hard time believing he was legitimate. Now we know better, and a damn good thing too.

If I were trying to sell eredani, it would basically be as "Sprint v2.0, now pwning more than ever before, quicker than ever before!" While Sprint had a few specialty games, eredani has got records in pretty much everything.

My favourite (at least, for its relevance to the top ten; it actually really sucked at the time) memory of eredani occurs multiple times in 2006. It works something like this:
[09:45] <mike89> ok, time to go beat DE1
[10:00] <GerbilEgg> New Record: eredani got 2:01 on Death Egg 1 / Sonic
[10:05] <mike89> got 2:08!
[10:05] <mike89> ...wait, what?

After which I learned not to discuss what level I was playing at any given time in the chat. To be fair, it did take this happening on several occasions for me to shut up about it, and even then I couldn't keep my fingers to myself all the time.

Oddly enough, eredani is only really strong in three games: Sonic and Knuckles, Sonic Heroes and Sonic Chaos, all three of which he was once champion of, and being seriously challenged on all three, simultaneously: S&K by yours truly, SH by SJ and Chaos by... well, everyone, since everyone wanted a piece of the Chaos pie.

Earlier this year, eredani boldly claimed he would reach #1 sitewide by the end of it. Personally, I'm failing to see where his challenge is going to come from, but everyone here knows that whenever I say something like this it ends up biting me in the arse. So consider this your wake up call!

Congratulations on a top three finish!

eredani's TSC Profile (#10) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/eredani)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: SprintGod
#4: mike89
#3: eredani
#2: ???
#1: ???

Some clarifications:

Quote from: Zeupar
Sonic or Amy? >_>

We already did two players as #1 once. It's not happening again.

Quote from: DarkspinesSonic
There was one time where I held 7 championships.

Yeah, I thought so, that's why I said it was possibly tied.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Stefan on April 21, 2008, 10:53:56 am
The last two: yoshifan, sadisticmystic?

I mean sm is number one for certain.. and yoshifan is too good to not have made this list at all.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 21, 2008, 08:35:56 pm
I'd call Russel "SadisticMystic" Jones God for #1.

Not really sure on 2 though. I'm not sure if DsS deserves it or not.

Also I want more crushing dreams. :(
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 22, 2008, 10:41:12 am
Prepare for the SHOCK OF YOUR LIVES.

TSC's GREATEST PLAYER #2
Mike "SuperSonic101" Erman:
Through the Fire and Flames~

(More on this later!)

It has long been my opinion that, of the Big Four of SA2B (Cybrax, Rayku, RPG and the aforementioned), that SS101 had the greatest effect on the competition scene. Cybrax wasn't around for long enough, Rayku had his stats deleted (by me, when SM gave me a faulty query!) and RPG, as the past week has shown, was never really worthy of the honour anyway.

Yet there was a time, back when having 20 people in the chatroom was an achievement, when this was not the case. I distinctly remember SS101 being very content to copy Cybrax's videos, and not contribute a whole lot of his own. But one day, and dozens of poorly encoded files, changed all that. Suddenly, SS101 was the teacher, and he was the one being leeched off. Unfortunately, I don't think he handled that as well as some players have.

SS101 left the game in 2006 well on top... in his chosen category of times. SS101 was a big believer in the old rankings format, which only counted time-based statistics in the overall rankings, in which he was substantially ahead until yoshifan finally overtook him. However, times change!

It should be apparent by now that that is not enough to secure the #2 spot on this list of incredible players. What really got SS101 this spot is the work he's done since then with Guitar Hero 3. SS101 is ranked in the top 100 in the world (and the Score Hero charts have a far larger participation than even mariokart64.com!), and even more impressively, only four months after getting the game managed a semifinal finish in a national GH3 tournament (though, to be fair, it's only Canada), missing out on the final by a mere 300 points.

Congratulations!

SuperSonic101's TSC Profile (#34) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/supersonic101)
SuperSonic101's Score Hero rankings (#32 PS2, #89 overall) (http://www.scorehero.com/scores.php?user=141442&group=4&game=5&diff=4)

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: SprintGod
#4: mike89
#3: eredani
#2: SuperSonic101
#1: ???

I think this is the most wide-open race for #1 yet. Any takers?

Quote from: Spinballwizard
Also I want more crushing dreams. :(

Be careful what you wish for...
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Taco on April 22, 2008, 10:53:20 am
OH MAN!

I TOTALLY DID NOT SEE THAT COMING!!!

SHOCK VALUE = AWESOME SURPRISING CRAZYNESS

how did you find this all out by the way? Because I never see ss101 anymore : /

but anyway, congrats supersonic! I really want to see him play guitar hero now!
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 22, 2008, 12:26:21 pm
Pssch, it's obvious that #1 will be Rolken. >_>
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Stefan on April 22, 2008, 05:07:33 pm
sadisticmystic is number one. I am fairly certain.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Rick_242 on April 22, 2008, 05:41:40 pm
Though I fear smizzla will be number 1, hopefully I will be. :/

Look at the topic closely.

It says TSCers.

Not Players.

There is a difference.

I think.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 22, 2008, 06:16:17 pm
either yoshifan or SM.

I know yoshifan has extended his reaches to other sites and SM...well that's self explanatory.

dammit, makes me wish I competed in more places.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Selphos on April 22, 2008, 06:57:19 pm
I'm saying Tails SadisticMystic deserves it.

Dammit, I've been in the chatroom too long...
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 23, 2008, 10:36:21 am
And TSC's GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME is...

DarkspinesSonic
smizzla
SadisticMystic
PPA

...

Stephen "yoshifan" Chan: The very best, like no one ever was.

(I bet if yoshifan played Pokemon, he'd be awesome at that too.)

And so we arrive at the end once again. And I leave you with the definitive all-rounder. I once called RPG the all-rounder, but he is a specialist in comparison. Part of yoshifan's repertoire can, as always, be found at the end of the bio.

yoshifan and TSC go way back, back to December 2003 in fact. One thing I remember from early 2004 is that many of the 2D videos were courtesy of him (with the remainder being supplied by SM). Of course, not many of them hold up today, but at least the Spring Yard 3 video is still active! The most impressive of yoshifan's initial bunch of times was that 2:19 Death Egg 1 Sonic, which lasted nearly two years as a record even with the strat being made clearly known.

Then, like many players, we didn't see him for a while. And then late 2005 and early 2006 saw his comeback. A player who had previously shown himself to be a 2D specialist was taking records all over the place in Sonic Heroes! This was followed by spurts in SA2B and Shadow, the latter of which led to the championship in quick time. SA2B, of course, took more time, but once yoshifan was done he established a position of dominance so powerful that many wonder if there will ever be another SA2B champion.

I once made it my stated goal to be ranked on all the major rankings sites around (Mario Kart 64, F-Zero, The Elite, etc). yoshifan has me well and truly beaten to the punch, I think he's on all of them except for Score Hero (see #2), and I didn't check that thoroughly. Not to mention, of course, his brilliant SA2B Hero speedrun on SDA, and various level speedruns on We Love Katamari.

We have a new champion!

yoshifan's TSC Profile (#9) (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/yoshifan)
yoshifan's We Love Katamari individual levels (http://speeddemosarchive.com/WeLoveKatamari.html#IL) (other contributors: slowbro, matthew69, khfan1, Dr. Thinker, The Prince's Bride)
yoshifan's Sonic Adventure 2 Hero speedrun (http://speeddemosarchive.com/SonicAdventure2.html#SSHero)
yoshifan's MKDS Profile (#336) (http://www.mariokart64.com/mkds/profile.php?pid=357)
Also some absurd rank like 30th in F-Zero MV but I can't work out how to link those :(

#10: Cybrax
#9: NintenDan
#8: Shadow Jacky
#7: SkyLights
#6: stanski
#5: SprintGod
#4: mike89
#3: eredani
#2: SuperSonic101
#1: yoshifan

Honourable mentions coming right up.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Ben on April 23, 2008, 10:41:25 am
yoshifan's F-Zero MV times (#36) (http://www.mrfixitonline.com/f0/viewplayer.php?ladder=3&user=460)
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: yse on April 23, 2008, 10:53:33 am
Now for the fun part. I get to throw crap at you all and you all applaud me at the end.

RPG, Douglas, Quartz - Apologies for shattering your dream so early, but you all knew you weren't realistic chances, right? :)

SM - Wow. I really screwed up on this one. SM should've probably been about... #4. Which meant I could've easily moved myself back out of the top five where I hardly belong... Sorry about that. :/

Sondow - Ranked 69th out of 575 players, Sondow is beating 506 able-handed players. With three fingers. I calculate that with a full complement of ten fingers, Sondow would be beating approximately 1677 players, for a ranking of -1101st. This deserves some recognition.

DsS and smizzla - It seems rather unreasonable to leave the current top two out of an all time top ten, especially when both have made their rise through the rankings in such quick time. However, I decided to leave smizzla out because he was banned four years ago (and fresh concerns have been raised about his legitimacy), and DsS is black.

Thorn - Might have made it if Knuckles Chaotix didn't suck so much. Oh well. Pick a better game next time!

And finally...

Rolken - I prefer to think of Rolken as holding the keys to the Matrix, but other than that I agree with Antiporcupine. He's the reason you care about any of this today. Everyone, three cheers for Rolken!

-----

And... that's it. It's all over.

I've loved having this opportunity to a) rate the achievements of various TSCers against each other, b) slander all your good names, and c) have lots of fun and a laugh in the process.

Some special thanks are in order. Firstly to RPG, who, even though he didn't always fulfil his quota, on time, has persevered with what was essentially my idea, generally agreed with my decisions (sometimes at the expense of the validity of the ranking itself), and taken on a share of the work that could reasonably have been thrown back on me, as it was this time.

Secondly, as already mentioned, to Rolken, without whom this idea would never have come to fruition because we'd all still be competing with each other by proxy.

Third, to SM who steadfastly corrected every single mistake I made during the course of the Top Tens' lifetime. And there were lots of them, particularly in this iteration because of the lack of a time machine.

And finally, to everyone who contributed to the fun of the Top Tens every six months by speculating, posting random gibberish in the topic, or just waiting with bated breath for the next selection.

I'll be taking "applications" for the right to "host" the next round of Top Tens for the fifth anniversary whenever you feel like enquiring. Until then, have fun and keep on trucking!

~yse
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: P.P.A. on April 23, 2008, 11:06:59 am
maggot - Eternal Sonic CD champion. That's awesome because Sonic CD is awesome and being awesome at it is awesome².
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Shadow Jacky on April 23, 2008, 02:13:45 pm
I so called it!
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: DsSaster on April 23, 2008, 02:38:09 pm
Why am I not surprised that it was yoshifan, I envy his 1337 skillz. >_<  Also...

Quote
DsS and smizzla - It seems rather unreasonable to leave the current top two out of an all time top ten, especially when both have made their rise through the rankings in such quick time. However, I decided to leave smizzla out because he was banned four years ago (and fresh concerns have been raised about his legitimacy), and DsS is black.

Ha ha, very funny.<_<
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: douglas on April 23, 2008, 03:00:28 pm
RPG, Douglas, Quartz - Apologies for shattering your dream so early, but you all knew you weren't realistic chances, right? :)

Hey fu bitch


I would like to add two notes of thanks to Mike's.  Firstly GS, whose leet hax keep TSC shipshape and almost make his chatroom behaviour tolerable (<GerbilSoft> no u <GerbilSoft> rickroll link <GerbilSoft> etc etc).  Secondly, to Mike: thanks for the effort, both in the Top Tens (going to miss you on these) and otherwise around the community, and for generally being teh awesomeness :)
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Zeupar on April 23, 2008, 06:25:46 pm
7/10. :O

I loved this iteration. yoshi deserves it. Thank you, Mike.
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Selphos on April 23, 2008, 07:51:40 pm
liek zomg thx mike :o

I really don't think I'd be -that- awesome with a full ten usable fingers, but who knows? I guess I will if I ever decide to actually get prosthetic hands or whatever the bloody hell it's called.
Though I most likely won't.

Also congrats yoshi :o
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SuperSonic101 on May 04, 2008, 06:27:51 pm
Great choice for #1. And overall awesome top 10. By the way, here are my GH videos: http://youtube.com/user/zmike1z. (also 28th ps2 78th overall now :P)
Title: Re: The Top Ten TSCers Of All Time
Post by: Bilan on May 04, 2008, 07:00:36 pm
and RPG, as the past week has shown, was never really worthy of the honour anyway.

(http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/h-objection.gif)

(http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/1-ani-phoenix-deskslam.gif)

Fuck you you God damn Jew.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on May 05, 2008, 07:04:15 pm
You're a tad late, Mr. Wright.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on September 25, 2008, 03:17:48 am
Well, it's almost that time of the year again!

We're only a month away from the big 5th birthday bash, and as we know there will be a new pair of Top Ten convenors this time around. For those of you who don't already know, I'd like to congratulate... douglas and genus!

If you would come to the stage and take this epic hat of mine, and steal RPG's crown for me, it'd be much appreciated!

Now that the formalities are over, I get to join the ranks of the speculators! Woohoo!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on September 25, 2008, 05:17:02 pm
Awsome news.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on September 25, 2008, 07:51:47 pm
If you would come to the stage and take this epic hat of mine, and steal RPG's crown for me, it'd be much appreciated!

Glad you're straight on which of us is the royalty around here >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on September 25, 2008, 08:04:16 pm
Wait, Genus?

Something reeks of fail.  And it's not me. <_<

But seriously, I thought there'd be more... famous faces.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: General Throatstomper on September 28, 2008, 02:47:29 pm
It's that time again – the Top Tens are back! This time around, in order to celebrate TSC's 5th birthday and to get everyone over the post-mike-and-RPG blues, we're doing something a little bit special. Welcome to...
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Our subject this year will be the Top Ten Top Tens!

A quick moment to explain is probably necessary. This isn't a recap of previous Top Tens, they're all new. Beginning on October 13 and on each day leading up to TSC's fifth anniversary, we'll post a subject and rank its notable components. Each post will contain the subject of the next 'top 10' topic, leaving everyone to quickly publish a scrambled attempt to correctly guess where the rankings will fall.  The idea is that Doug can get asshattery out of his system after a few posts, and with genus' libido for recursive humor, he'll have all the material he needs to make recursive jokes to satisfy his libido for recursive humor. We may intentionally drive the affair into the ground for our own amusement.

(genus comment: Actually, I shouldn't refer to myself in the first person, then you guys might pick up on the fact that this post was prepared weeks in advance...)

(Douglas comment: Don't tell them that, you arse)

(genus comment: Fine, I'll change the subject of these sentences when I post them and omit these lines.)

We'll be taking a trip through TSC history – all the players, all the events, and all the silliness that's accrued throughout the years.

So without further ado, let the speculation commence!

Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on September 28, 2008, 02:50:46 pm
Yayyyyy...........
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Waxwings on September 28, 2008, 02:50:58 pm
Top Tens?

More like Top Hundreds.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on September 28, 2008, 02:55:55 pm
Top Ten Top Tens. That is brilliance.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on September 29, 2008, 02:11:30 am
You're supposed to start on October 14, noobs.

Other than that, I am rather interested to see how this plays out.

Relatedly, doug suggesting that this was an ambitious project makes a lot more sense now!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 10, 2008, 04:53:15 pm
You're supposed to start on October 14, noobs.

Other than that, I am rather interested to see how this plays out.

Relatedly, doug suggesting that this was an ambitious project makes a lot more sense now!
ITT Mike fails - we'll be announcing what the first top ten is on the 13th to allow for speculation.

Also there isn't enough speculation now - speculate damnit! <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 13, 2008, 03:14:14 pm
zomg double post

So as promised, the announcement of Top Ten #10 to give you all speculating time is . . .

TOP TEN NOOBS

Including all of you for not speculating enough :(

But seriously, as mentioned before there is going to be some stupidness and (possibly lame) attempts at humour in this Top Tens, hence the first one.  Rest assured we're not going to be glorifying these idiots, and there is plenty recognition of proper achievements to come :)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 13, 2008, 03:23:06 pm
Wow...  out of all the noobs, it'd be kind hard for me to pick 10...

#1 RPG

that's all I got >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 13, 2008, 06:06:25 pm
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Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on October 13, 2008, 09:57:54 pm
#1 is sonicandamy
#2 is ringrush
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 14, 2008, 05:06:59 am
I put MA up there...

and I thought S&A, but I suppose my deffinition of noob isn't the same... S&A wouldn't go on that list
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 14, 2008, 07:37:01 am
Right. Here comes my first ever attempt at speculation :o

#10: Firstkirbyever - or at least an honourable mention. genus will slide him in for his epic failure at mafia
#9: Marcelo - MOMENTTT
#8: smizzla - Because getting banned from here twice is a pretty remarkable achievement.
#7: JoshiG4 - NOW YOU THINK ON WHAT SKILL YOU HAVE COST
#6: sonicandamy - no explanation required
#5: bertin - Because he never beat sonicandamy at anything else.
#4: prcorby - I'll tell my mommy on you!
#3: RingRush - again, no explanation required
#2: RPG - because #1 is too obvious, and this spot fits him better
#1: HCC - The grand daddy of them all. HCC made some legendary claims, absolutely none of which proved true.

How'd I go?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 14, 2008, 08:23:37 am
Anyone remember blueblaze? What on earth could have happened to him?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 14, 2008, 05:00:51 pm
Okay, notes: I'm doing one every (edit)10 minutes now and editing them back into this post, and each Top Ten is a joint effort, so there's both genus's and my writing in them.


10. Top Ten Noobs
The common or garden n00b (Idiotus Moronicus) is a curious creature. Shunning intelligence and common decency, they lurk anywhere where the reasonable folks of the intertubes attempt any meaningful interaction, they spread discord where'er they tread, they poison our wells, and most importantly they corrupt our children. Some might say it's a bad idea to have a Top Ten for the most loathed, bumbling moronics ever to grace the hallowed halls of our beloved TSC. Maybe we shouldn't promote or glamourise their behaviour; maybe this topic will give them ideas, maybe the Top Tens should celebrate all that is good about TSC. I, however, feel the following sentiments as strongly as the gout I received from my portly consumption of poached ducklings tongue: 1) pointing and laughing is always a worthwhile exercise, 2) budding n00bs might actually learn from these pillocks' mistakes, striving to tamp their libido for the insensible and 3) the average n00b won't read posts over 3 lines long, so there will be no deaths today by this account.

10 - zac-a-maniac
Our first Harbinger Of Fail is none other than the younger brother of the legend that is mike89.  With his familial credentials and good seemingly-legit stats, it looked like zac could be a real contender - but he had plenty of stats that were clearly BS too.  Unfortunately he was unrepentant, and the inevitable application of Banhammer ensued.  More importantly, he gave us two absolutely diamond posts:
Quote from: zac-a-maniac
Well to start I eat blue tack, paper, plastic, wallpaper, rubber and glue. I'll think of some more later but thats enough for now. also i'm poisoned for life. long live rave parties.
Quote from: zac-a-maniac
I AM NORMAL AND I WILL BE TREATED NORMALLY OR ELSE (the or esle is not to be let out)
zac-a-maniac eventually returned to TSC as smizzla and while this new form has had its differences with TSC, I think we can safely say he's escaped the realms of utter n00bdom - there is hope for you all, guys!

9- cake
Unfortunately for our greater sensibilities, the cake was not a lie; rather, he was one of the old masters noted for their sublime command of the utterly meaningless post (his opus is a topic commonly referred to as “MY TOILET OVERFLEW!!!”). Like all great geniuses, Cake suffered from a peculiar neurosis: a persecution complex that told him we were calling him a noob because of a low post count (when generally accepted data suggest that the site's biggest n00b has the highest post count). His prowess was also undercut by a palate predisposed to reject the many flavours of wry humor. Eventually, his crippling psychological condition proved fatal: he committed suicide by Rolken after posting a raft of insults, so squandering his wunderkid talent in the prime of life. If for nothing else, Cake has earned this accolade for provoking me into composing a serious post- so here is his honorary position on the famed wall of shame.
Quote from: cake
I dont know when its sarcasm or not what are you guys talking about!!! Do you guys hate me or something!!!
We don't hate, we hate to hate. We point and laugh.

8 – Sonic825
By now, you may have gathered that one of the calling cards of the noob is frequent short posts with bugger all to say. In fact, Forum Rule 4 in the Constitution is “If you’re pressing Submit on your third one-liner in a row, you might want to stop and think about the quality of what you’re posting”. Sonic825 gains notoriety not just for violating this sacred principle, but for actually bitching about other people's posts being too long. The reason?
Quote from: Sonic825
I'm not dumb. I have a short attention span.But not dumb.
Upon being chastised, his next input was:
Quote from: Sonic825
I can pay attention. I just made that an excuse
Draw your own conclusions.

7 - Hero Chaos Chao
HCC is one of our most prolific BSers ever.  He submitted a batch of obviously fake times, he got called out on them, he repented, he submitted fake stats again.  Lather, rinse, repeat.  I don't think anyone else has had as many second chances as HCC; the only conclusion is he's a pathological liar.  Either that or he's really a blue apricot called Gerald.

6 - xebra/Brian
Wait what, two in one?  Well yes actually - in fact when Brian was tempbanned once, effy mentioned that he wanted them both banned, and didn't even have to name xebra as the other one for people to get it.  These two were early members, competing with mike89 and FoxLuc in an epic tussle for the Sonic 3 championship - both helped by slowdown, though.  And both behaved in the same atrocious manner towards . . . well, everyone, really.  Fortunately most of their posts are lost to the annals of time, but harassing new members, posting goatse links on the forum and spamming the chat to death were amongst their favourite activities.  Eventually they spazzed out, deleted all their posts and left.  Celebrations were had.
All of this is an aside, of course - we hate them cuz they're black.  For real.

5 - JoshiG4
Another common-or-garden BSer, JoshiG4 (aka Hondaman, in the least convincing ban-dodging alternate account in the history of everything) had some amazing retorts that made him stand out above almost all others.
Quote from: JoshiG4
i just looked at all the videos and i have seen that Mike89 has used an emulator on Sonic 3 Icecap zone 2 and Sadistic has used an Sonic 2 which has included the spin dash which is not the original version in the rules any version altered to include spin dash is not allowed the level select code is so what do you have to say for yourselves
Wait what - SM hacked Sonic 2 to include spindash?  Dirty BSing cheat!
Quote from: JoshiG4
Mike89 and Sadisticmystic i'am arresting you on suspision of member misconduct, you do not have to see but it may harm your defence when mentioned anything you rely on in court. Any you do say may be given in evidence.
He's an intarwebs cop? ZOMG RUN FOR IT GUYS!
Quote from: JoshiG4
tee hee hee that plan was to scare you but it back fires
He was joking?  I mean . . . well . . . obviously I knew all along.  I wasn't scared.  Honest.
Quote from: JoshiG4
i'am keeping by the twisting the truth fact
. . .
Quote from: JoshiG4
i' am going to keep on coming here until i have my rights back even it until the day i die i leave in if you let me submit. ITS ONE SIMPLE TASK AND I EXPECT IT TO BE DONE
Ah crap - since he's never getting back in that means he's going to be immortal.
Quote from: JoshiG4
NOW YOU THINK ON WHAT SKILL YOU HAVE COST
His parting words, now immortalised in the random front page title.  JoshiG4, for services to making literally everyone else alive feel more intelligent, we salute you (for salute read garotte).

And finally, the inseparable bastions of TSC idiocy – the 4 N00bs Of The Apocalypse!  The Ancient Scrolls Of Wisdom foretell their return, at the head of the ravening hoards of the Unholy Army Of GameFAQs, to destroy TSC, the final refuge of pr0s on teh intartubes.  Know ye well our foes, comrades.

Joint 1 - goalie
Goalie's really a middle rung noob, there's nothing interesting to say about him in terms of his noob factor. Does this make him a noob at being a noob? No, you're not cool enough to think that meta.
What is worth noting, though, is that he dared to cheat in my beloved Advance 2.  The reason, therefore, that we haven't heard from him in many, many moons is that I've had him killed to death.  Fatally killed to death, in fact.  Everyone else take note.

Joint 1 - Marcelo
Precious little is known of this n00b, his main activity coming from the dark annals that time forgot (ie 2004 >_>).  What little is known is that he was a BSer with a different excuse: none of the stats he posted were in fact posted by him!  Presumably there's some sort of plot involving the secret service hacking into his TSC account to post fake stats in order to take over the world; we'll never know the sordid details of the international conspiracy, for the last that was heard of him was thus:
Quote
<Marcelo> MOMENTTT
<Marcelo> NO BAN ME MOMENT
<Marcelo> I DONE NOT POSTED THESE RECORDS
He then quit, never to be seen again, although we all eagerly await the MOMENTTT of his return.

Joint 1 – formarfan
Active for less than a month in the summer of 2004, formarfan was the original pointless poster. One liners abound, as were (as is somewhat typical of your average n00b) accusations of cheating (particularly against SHADOW JACKY). In fact, formarfan liked calling BS so much he created a fake account that was clearly cheating (eevilnew), just so he could call his fake self out. You've got to admire that dedication (and by admire, I mean facepalm at). Multiple accounts, waaay too much forum spam and our old friend BS stats got formarfan banned in short order.

Joint 1 – prcorby
Once again, prcorby started off as your run-of-the-mill BSer.  He was caught, protested his innocence (badly) and banned.  Everyone knew he was a cheat, he was ridiculed and he was sent from the site in shame.  At this point the rest of us would have given up and moved on with our lives. However, n00bs are like zombies – they just keep lurching forward, moaning incomprehensibly, until you blow their head off with a shotgun at close range (and as we all know there are few pleasures more sublime than the tranquil 'plop' of noob brains splattering against the wall). For most noobs, this takes the form of creating multiple accounts, maybe to protest their ban or maybe to attempt to pass unnoticed this time around. For prcorby, however, it was all about shutting TSC down.
He rejoined the forum to enlighten us as to our sins:
Quote from: prcorby
You mother fuckers, get rid of this fuckin site before i die, I've lived for 70 years already. Ow, Mother Fucker, DON'T STEP ON MY TOE.
He sent emails relaying what The Terrorists had told him must happen to the site to ensure the safe release of his kidnapped mother:
Quote from: prcorby
I want you to change your site totally different. I want you to delete: the competitions, the user registration, and the boards. What I was expecting on your site is just info on all the sonic games. It can have CGI, but only a site search or somthing else
Do this or else I'm done for. Please!
He spammed the chat:
Quote from: IRC
[01:00:34] prcorby89 [david@SCnet-3F505CF5.resnet.drexel.edu] has joined #soniccenter[01:00:35] <prcorby89> hi
[01:00:39] <yse> FUCK
[01:00:40] <prcorby89> i want you to take down sonic center
[01:00:42] <prcorby89> now
[01:00:42] <yse> too slow
[01:00:46] <Rolken> X)
[01:01:06] <prcorby89> remove all the competitions
[01:01:12] <prcorby89> otherwise i'll get buttsecks :(
[01:01:16] <SDM> even mine? :(
[01:01:21] <prcorby89> your competitions are cheating
[01:01:22] <yse> i thought you liked that kind of stuff, paul
[01:01:24] <prcorby89> you're all cheating!
[01:01:35] <prcorby89> Delete your competitions now!
[01:01:37] <prcorby89> :(
[01:01:49] <Rolken> :(
[01:01:50] <+GerbilEgg> *** I call BS: prcorby89 didn't get >100 in IQ
[01:01:55] <prcorby89> Also take down that bot.
[01:01:58] <yse> too many zeros
[01:02:20] prcorby89 [david@SCnet-3F505CF5.resnet.drexel.edu] has quit IRC (Quit: Killed (GerbilSoft (no u)))
And most bizarrely posted a negative review of TSC on Amazon (here (http://www.amazon.com/review/R2IBGNQDRGMFO0/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm)).
Finally, due to his pleas at Gfaqs and the flaming he received there, TSC was at last shut down:
Quote from: SadisticMystic
if for some reason prcorby decides to come back, his IP is filtered out by the main page and instead of seeing normal TSC pages, for that IP only, it displays the message "Sorry, TSC is shut down at prcorby's request. :( It's been fun, but people were flaming him on GameFAQs and that's just mean, so this site can't stay up anymore."
It is from prcorby we have Constitution Forum Rules 2 and 3, and the front page random message “Shut down TSC or I'll tell my mommy on you”, and for that we thank him. And by 'thank' I mean 'beat in the face with a tire iron'.



Footnote: For the source of the 4 N00bs Of The Apocalypse legend, see http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=929.msg6398#msg6398 (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=929.msg6398#msg6398).  Also RPG loses the cool points that got him by not remembering who they actually were properly when I asked him >_>


Oh, and one more thing: the next Top Ten is . . .  Top Ten Catchphrases!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 14, 2008, 06:27:32 pm
If #1 isn't "I Call BS!" then I'm not sure this is Soniccenter at all...

Unless it's no u, fu, rickroll'd (recent), g-rated, or royal rainbow...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 14, 2008, 07:03:03 pm
Well thats some history I didn't know about...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on October 14, 2008, 08:37:47 pm
formarfan liked calling BS so much he created a fake account that was clearly cheating (eevilnew), just so he could call his fake self out. You've got to admire that dedication (and by admire, I mean facepalm at).

Epic. xDDD

Awesome top ten to start with. Good job. :O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 14, 2008, 09:01:15 pm
I was going to give you cool points for TSCA reference but then I changed my mind >:O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on October 14, 2008, 11:13:37 pm
no SM18, no s&a.

needs work.

but gj! it's pretty awesome.

also, for top ten catchphrases, I expect to see "pay attention, quartz" and "i call bs".

also, if "what" is included I quit tsc.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 15, 2008, 12:30:53 am
this is TSC, there's no way "what" will be on the top-10 for catchphrases!

It'd be wut instead >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 15, 2008, 12:59:25 am
Well thank gosh i wasn't on there for my first forum post >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on October 15, 2008, 01:02:55 am
Anyone remember blueblaze? What on earth could have happened to him?

HE WAS THE BIGGEST NOOB OF THEM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!iiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: P.P.A. on October 15, 2008, 01:45:48 pm
No me? Whoo!

Also top ten catchphrases? I'll be offended if neither Royal Rainbow! nor I'M NOT A FURRY is in there!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 15, 2008, 02:48:18 pm
I did vote for ya, PPA
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Crowbar on October 15, 2008, 03:44:34 pm
Come on, eggFL at least deserved an honorable mention.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 15, 2008, 04:14:09 pm
I admit I wasn't looking forward to this, but reading the list was hilarious.  I guess I shouldn't have such a low tolerance for noobs to come if they can produce material such as the top 10.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 15, 2008, 07:15:07 pm
9. Top Ten Catchphrases
Here at TSC, we are naturally loathe to instigate lengthy discussions. What use is protracted, empty discourse on a common topic when independently reasoned conclusions on stilted values remain the pervading interpretations for all invested parties with snappy one-liners, crude puns, and rickrolls attaining the same effect in a more honest fashion in a shorter time frame? Invariably, certain people regurgitate the same few defense mechanisms, which then become the means by which we identify, stereotype and ridicule them. Hail these notable mannerisms.

10 - RPG: mmmballs
RPG's infatuation with balls is *now* legendary.  He is predisposed towards an amicable love for all species of balls - bouncy ones, rubbery ones, furry ones, smooth ones, big ones, small ones, some as big as your head (and bigger!), multi-coloured ones, plain ones. As long as there are balls, especially lots of them, RPG will stare fawningly on, glistening doe eyes in awe, while a reverential smile waxes for all and sundry.
In celebration of RPG's libido for the round, I found him some (barely legal) ball on ball pornography. I hope that as a spectator he has a very happy, satisfying top 10; it's been hard for him so far with all this free time.
(http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/paulgreatrix/2006/04/13/balls.jpg)

9-Stefan: what Arguments, see attached flowchart:
(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/9657/flowingsg2.png)
Well, he said he'd quit TSC if we included "what" as his catchphrase...so here's something else. An argument with Stefan is formulaic; tell him something offensive, log the conversation, wait a day, say something else offensive, and compare the two for a comedic effect. Stefan wanders the streets at night looking for innocents to whallop with a pillow sack crammed with quarters and a lot of "whats" rolled with barbed exaggerations under the guise of objectivity. Careful, it leaves a nasty sting because he brings it with him on fox hunts. It's really not a catch phrase in the exact sense of the word, but because it's 4 in the morning, I don't even care whether this is funny or encourages comradery. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.  

8- Shadowjacky: Shit!
SJ doesn't curse like a sailor...he curses like a sailor with spiky hair wearing a leather jacket, faded jeans, and shades riding a motorcycle while smoking a cigarette, drinking a beer, and shooting at squirrels. His comments are filled with enough vulgarities to shame even those especially coarse grandmothers. Zeph recently compiled a list of SJ's more notable comments (Zeph edit: link not available; see attachment instead), though to save time our analyses indicate that they all arc towards this general meaning with slight variability in expression: "shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit gay fuck fuck fuck shit shit shit shit shit fuck fuck shit shit fuck fuck shit fuck this shit shit fuck fuck ass gay gay shit shit shit fuck fuck shit shit fuck fuck fuck fuck". It's rumored that JackieChan comes from a sun stricken land in the far east, trained by sensei with particularly abrasive cases of tourrettes syndrome, though the ineffable nature of his stoic character and that really cool surgical mask obfuscates any postulation.

7- Zeph/SBW: >:O!!!
Aka THE FAEC, this is used by Zeph and SBW in their role as chatroom ops to mean "I am extremely displeased with the current state of affairs and will be laying down the law forthwith in no uncertain manner!".  Use of THE FAEC by anyone other than these two is punishable by death, though several recent cases have stirred controversy by raising a justification defense that use of THE FAEC is warranted when responding to Zeph's abuse of the net split button. Because of political pressure, several judges have commuted sentences to a good whacking from Zeph's signature steel toed boot instead of capital punishment. THE FAEC is the most powerful emoticon known to man, said to be the only thing in the entire universe that scares RPG and keeps him in line - hence it is probably the most valuable invention in the history of our beloved teh intarwebs.

6- CherryMay: :(
CherryMay  pioneered universal appraisal of genocides, rainy Saturdays, headaches, breakups, toothaches, new friends, old friends, too many decisions, too few decisions, death, lack of tigers, and general calamity - though for the uninitiated, it is also acceptable to respond to general delights in this fashion. It makes Cherry sad that she can't be happy, and her manic depression is iconic in the purest comprehensible form. In a 288 day interval,  22.1% of her 34730 lines contained the ':(' emoticon, which itself is the most common emoticon with 49755 uses. I'd say more but I think its status as a catch phrase is self evident :(

5- SkyLights: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (80 lines omitted for brevity)
To communicate with the Gods of Old, the Oracle of Delphi fasted and consumed hallucinatory alms, speaking in tongues to a learned holy man. To communicate with Tikal, SkyLights doesn't take his medication and says AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  (80 lines omitted for brevity) to laymen capable of deriving only an abstruse declaration of distress from the fabled deity. There is a Draconian code governing its usage: only a few righteous, discerning methadone addicts who have conversed with Tikal may declare her will. Defying this law is a sacrilege of sufficient magnitude to warrant  a disapproving look and Sky's proclamation of 2/10, though even those honored few cleared to employ AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (80 lines omitted for brevity) must exhibit restraint and avoid its overuse by never using it at all. While it -is- their right (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3374.0), thankfully we live in a totalitarian state and any such exercise of civil liberties is punishable by banhammer to the face.

4- The Channel: PPA is a furry//PPA:I'M NOT A FURRY!!!!!!
Ever since this topic (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2460.0), PPA has been in quarantine away from TSC's healthy, uncorrupted members . Consequently, any discussion involving PPA, animals, anthropomorphised animal-type characters,  taxidermists, anthropomorphised animal-type characters who are taxidermists, the relative tactile merits of polyester over felt, sexual fetishes, and other cursory topics tangentially revisit his furfaggotry. It's TSC's flavorful Godwin, a manifestation of our site's myopic, misanthropic meditations. "I'M NOT A FURRY!!!!!! is PPA's banal retort to these statements alleging that he has peculiar erotic tastes. Naturally, it doesn't work because we all know that PPA loves hot, jungle loving. He says it loud and he says it often, leaving the objective observer to wonder just who he's trying to convince. Given the Kübler-Ross model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kübler-Ross_model), we can make reasonable assumptions about his future responses. With transitional phases, it's possible that some of these phrases will blend, and equally his psychology may be such that some steps will be skipped entirely; however, we can approximately expect "No, you're the furry", " I'm not really a furry because I like real girls", "I don't care anymore", and finally "it's not a big deal that I'm a furry". But oh, PPA, how it is. Though as this is TSC's 5th anniversary, and should be a happy occasion, we wish PPA a speedy rehabilitation so that he may enjoy a gradual reintegration into normal society.  Don't give up PPA, we love the part of you that doesn't love Katt (but not like that)!

3- RPG: Hey dude,  welcome to the site =)
This catchphrase was RPG's favoured greeting for new members, but its dignity was tarnished when other members stole it to selfishly make others feel welcome. Everyone's favourite homicidal maniac didn't take kindly to this, and started a campaign of senseless, brutal murder against anyone who used it in a welcome topic. Fortunately, this spike in fatalities didn't scare off too many newbies...though as our cemetery's gatekeeper, his wife the pharmacist, and his brother the bellhop collectively suspect, this isn't necessarily a good thing. RPG's killing spree even found its way into its own topic (topic link here, don't just leave the filler in here this time genus) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1207.0).

2- GerbilSoft: no u
Gerbil's weapon of choice, this is an infallible, bulletproof comeback to everything. Ever. When you say 'no u' in an argument, you win; your opponent completely deflates, then everything loves you and hot chicks start coming round to your place to let you know just how amazing you are. The secret to weight loss is 'no u', it improves your love life, it can even get this wine stain out of your whites! Don't try -that- with just any colloquialism! The more you say "no u", the better your life will be, so say "no u" proudly! Say it with a friend, say it to an enemy! Stick it on any surface: walls, refrigerators, windows, you name it! Act now, and you'll even get a free *facepalm*, perfect for showing your kids just who's boss! You must act now, though; 'no u' will be banned minutes after this post! Call now!
 
1- mike89: I call BS!
Or the less eloquent, "I call bullshit!". This venerable catchphrase was born in a raging typhoon some miles south of mainland Japan as Mike's warcry against the tide of n00bs that is forever bombarding our charts, but now it is a complete mainstay of all TSCers for any untruth, no matter the relative severity of the perceived infraction (ex: "<PPA> I'm not a furry! <Douglas> I call BS!").  It's also used by n00bs incapable of understanding how much we pwn -it has become a rite of initiation for all new members to call BS on DarkspinesSonic, our current sitewide champion (who recently waxed philosophical about his cheating, lieing, blackness, and puppy strangling in the best-selling self help book Cheating, Lieing, Being Black, and Puppy Strangling: How I Became TSC's Top Player, and How You Can Too), and their subsequent hazing only strengthens our fraternal bond. "I call BS" can also refer to calling 'blue shells', 'blue skips', 'banal saliency', 'bachelor of science', 'bachelor of surgery', 'backspace', 'BASIC', 'BellSouth', 'BioShock', 'blood sugar', 'boy scouts', 'British Sugar', though it won't so don't be so gullible next time.

Our topic for next time will be. .
top 10 nicknames
...

Let the games continue!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on October 15, 2008, 08:18:17 pm
The word "windows" is included in the explanation of Gerbil's catchphrase. He will love it. xD

Also... Blasphemy! "Blasphemy!" was not included in this list!

Awesome nicknames? Mmm... Paraxade, Psyknux, Rolken, Cybrax, ALAKTORN, eredani, Paragod, nitsuja...

Not WingedInsignia... <_<





Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Waxwings on October 15, 2008, 08:20:04 pm
:(.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2008, 11:19:00 pm
yse, Rolkopop, Starly/Pidgey/Spearow/Taillow fad?

Kooky the Badgerowl? >_>

<_<
/me run

Man that reminds me, what was that horrific long name I had before that began with VLAAD
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 15, 2008, 11:21:55 pm
#1? I call BS!

(lol see what I did there)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 15, 2008, 11:33:06 pm
Top Ten entry or not, I don't care, I'm bringing that marquee tag down as well.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Magnezone on October 15, 2008, 11:42:52 pm
Quote
Top Ten entry or not, I don't care, I'm bringing that marquee tag down as well.
i object (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2706.0)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 16, 2008, 12:01:22 am
Quote
Top Ten entry or not, I don't care, I'm bringing that marquee tag down as well.
i object (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2706.0)
I still hate the epicness of that post preventing me from doing my duty.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 16, 2008, 03:08:54 am
these top tens are on a roll

I'm so glad I made #8 on catchphrases
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 16, 2008, 05:22:08 am
*laughs*  that had to be one of the best pieces of late-night literature to ever grace the intarwebz (dis-grace?)

I vote Thorn, because his nickname is awesome... (he wanted a name that had a point... I couldn't resist... and it stuck ^_^)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 16, 2008, 06:12:30 am
I just hope  'Top Ten worst forum posts' doesn't come up. I'd be there for sure. Already said that up there ^^^^^

...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: P.P.A. on October 16, 2008, 08:36:04 am
I'M NOT A FURRY
And in addition, I never add any !s to that line! And Katt is not furry!

Also :( should be higher up there. :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Pokemonmaster888 on October 16, 2008, 04:57:13 pm
Great new Top Ten lists! They are really interesting, and I am eagerly awaiting the next one.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 16, 2008, 05:12:40 pm
8. Top Ten Nicknames
10. Rolken
Rolken's nick achieves greatness not in itself but through it's derivatives:
Rolken: Site admin, lame, has a hawt wife.
lolken: Admins have failed to execute their duties to my satisfaction.
Rolkosexual: Some new TSC slang word for 'heterosexual'.
Rolkenner: To be more Rolken: "I'm Rolkenner than you!".
Rolkennest: To be the most Rolken: "Rolken is the Rolkennest Rolken in Rolkenland".
Rolkenland: A strange and terrifying place where people care about Sonic Chaos.
Rolkenism: A quasi-spiritual movement whose members attempt to become Rolkenner through transcendental meditation and playing Sonic Chaos.  Believe they will go to Rolkenland when they die.
Rolkenite: Follower of Rolkenism.
Rolkenisation: The process of converting someone to Rolkenism.
Rolkevangelism: Spreading the word of Rolkenism.
Rolkephobic: Allergic to success.
Rolkeholic: Someone who abandons Rolken's teachings on moderation for a lifestyle of excessive conservation.
Rolkopop: Known to the state of California to contain carcinogenic substances.
Rolktastic:/me shot

9. CosmicFalcon
CF's nick recalls the quaint image of a freedom fighting birdman blasting through space, all elegant and heroic and stuff - something like this guy, maybe:
(http://www.comicbookreligion.com/img/f/Falcon_Sam_Wilson.jpg)
Why is reality such a let-down :(

8. SkyLights
SkyLights is included out of sympathy for his ignorance - dude, we call them "stars".  Or maybe "planes".  Or "the moon".  Or "the sun", I guess.  At a stretch, maybe "UFOs coming to take us away in the middle of the night and anal probe us have a leisurely conversation about ourselves and our culture over a nice hot cup of tea and some lovely buttered crumpets, just like mum used to buy."
Actually, come to think of it, it functions well as an umbrella term. So now I must begrudgingly acknowledge my own comparative shortcomings as a humble bootblack.

7. Nintendan
It's like Nintendo mixed with Dan, because Nintendan's real name is Dan and he plays Nintendo.  Get it?  It's, like, a clever word thing.
...
Well I lol'd.

6. Taco
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/taco.JPG)
Yes.

5. RPGnutter
You might think that ARRPEEGEE's nick comes from a combination of liking role-playing games and being mildly eccentric; however, you'd be wrong.  Probably dead wrong.  The 'nutter' part is totally apt; he's a homicidal sociopath who in his time here has carved a wave of destruction the like of which has never been seen before.  He's actually wanted in 3 States in the US, and is permanently banned from France for reasons that are illegal to discuss in Europe so rely on the approximation that his most depraved acts dwarf even...preemptive anti-Godwin.  Oh, and 'RPG' stands for Rocket Propelled Grenade.
(http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-17660556.jpg?size=572&uid=%7BF61B01AA-E436-4EAD-9A5F-E2D35A39A37F%7D)
If you see him coming, run away.  Quickly.

4. Crowbar
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w235/Dekasutu/hit-it-crowbar.jpg)
Hell yeah.

3. SadisticMystic
(http://images.elfwood.com/art/k/n/knaupp/fortune.jpg)
This nick puts me in mind of a seaside fortune teller who tells a punter to go to a dark alley late at night where they'll meet a "tall dark stranger" they'll spend the rest of their life with - literally. It is a truth universally acknowledged that evil exploitation of gullible people = win

2. SprintGod
(http://www.naturalistsalmanac.com/illustrations/olympics.gif)
Never has a name been so apt for a competitor as SprintGod's.  Sprint, as we all know, is a stickler for perfection in his TAing, and also for recording all of his runs to show us mere mortals how it's done.  He has been a trailblazer, one whom we follow and learn from in our quests for TA godhood, and so his moniker fits perfectly.

1. Spinballwizard
Ever since I was a young boy
I played the blue buzz ball
From GeneDrive to PS3
I must have played them all
But I ain't seen nothing like him
In any amusement hall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid
Sure plays a mean Spinball

He's a Spinballwizard
There's got to be a twist
A Spinballwizard
He's got such a supple wrist


Disclaimer: While SpinballWizard isn't deaf or blind, the site's higher-ups know he does have a supple wrist.  And how he got it.



Edit: better late than never, tomorrow's Top Ten is . . . Top Ten Points Whore Records!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Crowbar on October 16, 2008, 05:35:22 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on October 16, 2008, 06:08:44 pm
So you meant main nicknames.

Also you forgot Rolkinoke and RolkoNut.  Or was it RolkNut?

Also, points whore records?  I'm am curious as to what that means.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on October 16, 2008, 07:35:15 pm
yse, Rolkopop, Starly/Pidgey/Spearow/Taillow fad?

Kooky the Badgerowl? >_>

<_<
/me run

Man that reminds me, what was that horrific long name I had before that began with VLAAD

I do believe what happened was during the time you had Kooky the Badgerowl, a couple people (including me) said the name was cute and in response you changed it to VLAAD THE CANNIBALISTIC AVATAR OF SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH.

Also Quartz I do believe a prime example would be all of Adv2. Scalping and shit.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 16, 2008, 07:38:49 pm
yse, Rolkopop, Starly/Pidgey/Spearow/Taillow fad?

Kooky the Badgerowl? >_>

<_<
/me run

Man that reminds me, what was that horrific long name I had before that began with VLAAD
I do believe what happened was during the time you had Kooky the Badgerowl, a couple people (including me) said the name was cute and in response you changed it to VLAAD THE CANNIBALISTIC AVATAR OF SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH.

Also Quartz I do believe a prime example would be all of Adv2. Scalping and shit.

Not so much; there's still time involved in getting those and just doing the scalping doesn't guarantee you getting the record.  A great example were it not now banned would be S1GG Bridge Zone.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 17, 2008, 12:29:19 pm
Disclaimer: While SpinballWizard isn't deaf or blind, the site's higher-ups know he does have a supple wrist.  And how he got it.
No capital w damnit. Also fu.

Also I don't have a PS3.

Also re: RPG's hey dude catchphrase -- You totally forgot the word filter that was put into place for it; wasn't it SOMEBODY SMACK ME IN THE FACE WITH A TIRE IRON :) ?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 17, 2008, 04:26:09 pm
[Because RPG Douglas is a douche, we're delaying the posting of today's top 10's until tomorrow.

Don't worry, though, there will be something extra to go along with it!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 18, 2008, 12:05:13 pm
Edit: better late than never, tomorrow's Top Ten is . . . Top Ten Points Whore Records!
*cough* <_< (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_advance_2/scores/hot_crater_1/sonic)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 18, 2008, 02:04:42 pm
Edit: better late than never, tomorrow's Top Ten is . . . Top Ten Points Whore Records!
*cough* <_<
 (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_advance_2/scores/hot_crater_1/sonic)
More like *COUGH* (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/scores/cosmic_wall/mission_1)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 18, 2008, 03:05:17 pm
A point whore record, huh? 

Is this like scalping for points or people who will play a level over and over and over just to finally get a really good point rec for it?

If it's the former, I vote HT to be put up there...

If the latter, I vote M1
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: General Throatstomper on October 18, 2008, 04:21:05 pm
7. Top Ten Points Whore Records
Being the best at TSC shouldn't be easy, these are the elites performing at the far reach of their faculties and the limitations of the game itself to submit optimized charts. Courting ought take care, planning, a charming personality, and attention so that when you take that record home for some piping Hot Coffee, you feel like you've earned it. However, some of the records on this site are less, shall we say, scrupulous then others. Here we celebrate the free love and wonderful body magic of these ego-stroking stats of generosity.

10. Sonic Adventure DX - Emerald Coast/Hot Shelter - Rings (Big)
Sonic Team knows what we, as gamers, really want - to waddle about as a formless, gormless purple blob.  Sod the speed, sod the excitement, let's fucking fish! To claim tops for these charts, you don't need to do much (just look at this video (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3QHAOAI7lLw) for Hot Shelter). These two Big levels were selected because there aren't even any '?' boxes...you just have to take a leisurely stroll through the level, don't walk into coconuts, try not to drown, and don't reel in your line like you're on speed to become number one.  Catching Froggy himself is the hardest part of the mission, though owing the tipsy camera and blocky controls this makes it a cut above in difficulty compared to some of these rather girlfriendly entries.

9. Sonic & Knuckles - Hidden Palace Zone - Rings
As either Sonic (43 rings) or Tails (73 rings), this level is a cinch.  It's the size of a shoebox, with no enemies!  Well, except for some poncy pink echidna, but he's a pushover.  Honestly, it takes a certain breed of failure to not trounce this fool without damage. My blind, deaf grandfather beat him without taking a hit...and he's been cremated for 10 years.
To prove how simple it is, Douglas recorded two perfect runs himself, to be uploaded shortly.  I know you're not as awesome as him, but even so it ought be enough for you to follow.  For those who aren't in the 23 out of 27 (Sonic) or 21 out of 25 (Tails) people who've already done it, anyways...
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1037/pieceofcakexk2.png)

8. Sonic 2 GG - Sky High 2 - Times
It's . . . not a rings stat!  This was once a pretty competitive record, until Sprint came along and ruined its life with his sadistic, sexual savagery.  Why did you do it, Sprint?  What did these innocent levels ever do to deserve it? *wipes away a tear*
Anyway, being Sprint it is of course on video (http://www.gdward.plus.com/site/avi/s2ms-sh2.avi) - if you thought some of the new handheld games should be called "Press Right Adventure", you'll see that the Game Gear games are more deserving entries.  10 of the 20 players for this level have tied up this record (helped by the imprecise counter, which truncates times to seconds), so it stands as 8-bit TAing's best example for this category.

7. Sonic 1 - Final Zone - Times - 1:13
Anyone who's played this game competitively has this one down (at the time of writing 65 different competitors have it).  There are a couple of straightforward tricks to this gem (standing in the middle makes it easier to avoid the orbs, and hitting Buttnik late to avoid him being slow the last time), and 1:14 isn't really that terrible, so it's not higher up up this list.  Anyone slower than 1:14, though (CF!), should be ashamed of themselves.
SM's Sonic 1 - Final Zone Video (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/2-5-19-1-7300.avi)
Also if Robotnik's so smart why doesn't he just have all four fire at once?  And why does he feel like he has to stand in the pistons, anyway?  He's too much of an evil genius to not realize the consequences of his actions, so could it be that secretly, he wants to fail? Perhaps Sonic Team is making profound points on humanity's self-destructive nature, why have we embraced a psychology of destruction? Why can't everywhere be like Chemical Plant or Scrap Brain zone, do we have to resign ourselves to letting nature defeat us?!

6. Sonic Adventure DX - Final Egg - Rings (Gamma)
There are no obstacles or enemies here...at least Big's entry in this chart had some coconuts that you could "accidentally" walk into. Losing rings in this chart is impossible, what's going to hit you in this?  As long as you can remember to get the 10-ring boxes and don't, say, fall asleep while playing and have a time over, this one's so easy that even a completely incompetent 3D player could get it.  Unfortunately Douglas can't be bothered to install his copy of SADX on his new PC (and nobody is to mention his current stat), so just watch this vid (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/sonic_adventure_dx/embed|file:Q-2Rsz1tyGE) of, by far, the easiest 3D record to get on the site. Or save time, and just look at a picture that shows the same thing:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5561/tooeasyor0.png)

5. Sonic Rush - Scores (Bosses) - Sonic/Blaze
Rush is a great example of a competitive game - there's a ton of good competition across all divisions.  I mean yeah, some of the special stages are maxable, and a good chunk of the spread in rings is down to ? boxes, but overall it's been a roaring success for a recent game.  There is one element that does qualify for this Top Ten, however - Boss Scores.  Why?  Well, if you have a pulse and can beat the bosses without getting hit, you have the record.  If you don't believe me, you're a tool and should  check the chart (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_rush/scores)...with that many ties, this category has to make it.

4. Sonic Rush Adventure - Scores - All
The vast majority of this chart is maxable using the following strategy (courtesy of Thorn): go fast, get rings, mash buttons for points and to stay near invincible.  Which, to be honest, sounds exactly like normal SRA gameplay.  If we discount the extra stages (sea stages, emeralds and whatnot, which are slightly more interesting), you can get 5.6 sitewide points for racking all of these up - just ask sonicandamy, they're all he's done (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/sonicandamy/sonic_rush_adventure/scores).

3. Sonic Chaos - Rings - All
8-bit rings tallies are usually pretty simple - short and typically simple levels, none of the difficult doubling-back stuff, and definitely no damned ? boxes.  With 10 players having a 0-points leadership, Sonic Chaos is the best example of this, particularly as PPA has taken the trouble to video them all (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/sonic_chaos) - and maxing them out gets you about 7 sitewide points.
Oh, and if you need more convincing, Gerbil is one of the 0-points leaders.
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3273/ringskv0.png)

2. Sonic 1 - Rings - Almost All
Yeah, so Star Light 1 and Scrap Brain 3 are bitches, but just look at the number of people (http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_1/rings) with records in this division; it's a damn slaughter, it's about 13 sitewide points for the taking, and what's more every level save Scrap Brain 3 has the record . . . err . . . recorded.
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5198/repeatkh5.png)

1. Sonic 3D Blast - Rings - All
Okay, Diamond Dust 1 with that stupid jump to get the extra ring is irritating.  Fine, whacking the bosses while keeping hold of all your rings can be a bit tedious.  And yeah, there's a lot of levels to get through, so it takes patience and planning.  In fact, getting all of these isn't anything like as easy as some of the ones that have come below it in this category.  However, with 22 out of 57 players sharing a zero-point leadership, and with that leadership gifting competitors around 20 sitewide points, these give the most reward for the least effort, and that makes them worthy of their place atop this list. Reverential swooning, please.
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6733/monotonyoy6.png)

Stay tuned for tomorrow's Top 10's double feature-"Top 10 Fads" and "Top 10 Comments"!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 18, 2008, 07:03:31 pm
1. Sonic 3D Blast - Rings - All
I hate you both.  >_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on October 18, 2008, 07:05:44 pm
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
/me shot for Vader quote
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 18, 2008, 07:49:15 pm
I do not shoot, I stab...

Also, I'd like to make the comment that, with the exception of the SRA rec, My first re-enterance stats nearly all fall into the above category ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on October 19, 2008, 07:43:49 am
I have to say, that is the most obvious #1 once you know what the category means.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 19, 2008, 02:31:33 pm
But DANG.  That leaves only 12 of my records left....
And on investigation, when did I lose my Metropolis 1 score record?!?!  Dang, I'll need to fix that....  <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 19, 2008, 08:54:14 pm
I knew top 10 fads would show up somewhere!

Mafia better be #1!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 20, 2008, 06:34:25 am
zomg moar late (posting now to keep some momentum up)


 6. Top Ten 10 Comments
As we all know, when submitting your latest awesome stat you can accompany it with a comment, wherein you can express your pride in your achievement, encourage others to try to emulate you, share strats and so on.  Of course, you can also put in funny, random or downright wierd stuff in there too, which is just as well really because without that this Top Ten wouldn't exist.

10. SaviourDC - Sonic Adventure 2 - Metal Harbour Mission 1 - me very fast uh I think
me very fail uh I think

9. CosmicFalcon- Sonic 1 - Green Hill 1 - You want noobdom I'll give you noobdom. Noobs
CF got a 25s GH1 stat, and therefore assumed that everyone else who'd got it was a noob.  Which is fair enough, really; anyone who's like CF in any way is obviously a noob. It's too bad for CF that all the pros have 24 now, though.  Well, not really...this shows CF for the noob he is.  And that goes for the rest of you; if you haven't got a 24s GH1, you're not in Doug's Book Of Awesome (not that any of you are getting in there anyway >_>).

8. James_Bertolli - Sonic 1 - Green Hill 2 - mmmbouncy
Wait what - someone other than CF talking about bouncy?  ...Oh, wait. -That- kind of bouncy,  you may proceed.  Actually, this comment would be particularly apt for GH3, since all you do is bounce off shit and land on Robotnik.  But hey, GH2 works too.

7. Bertin - Sonic CD - Collision Chaos 1 - DONT TEST ME
Bertin has a ton of comments ranging from the inane ("You think you was on NBA Jam, you hear that choppa go Blakka-ga-blakka, Boom-shakka-laka-laka") to the insane ("Push the pool stick in ya new crib same hand that ya hoop with swing around like you stupid"), but this one made me chuckle most. The first image I got in my head was of him cowering from a doctor's needle, screaming like a baby because 1) he doesn't like the big scary needle, and 2) he doesn't want anyone to find out about his horribly debilitating condition. Of course, that's just me being silly and this is clearly meant in a threatening context - which is even funnier, because as we all know Bertin is in fact a bear and it's not possible to be intimidated by Pooh's long-lost cousin.

6. DarkChaos4 - Sonic Adventure 2 - City Escape Mission 1 - no vid. to back it up but i swear on the holy bible i got this time.
Shakespeare once wrote "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".  There's a few instances throughout the charts of pre-emptive denial - which is of course enough to make us suspicious in the first place - but none so emphatic as this beauty.  I hope you really aren't BSing DarkChaos4 - Hell's an awful unpleasant place.  Although you're going there anyway for forgetting to capitalise "Holy Bible".  If we could mass produce a device capable of inflicting incredible pain over the internet for grammatical errors and overcharge, then we would become a global force.

5. Rolken - Sonic 2 - Hill Top 2 - Thanks lava.
Zomg Rolken plays games?  Well yeah actually, and he also discovered an awesome shortcut on this level whereby you could glitch yourself through the lava and skip a large chunk of the level.  Though he has now been surpassed by others using his strat more effectively than he possibly could, this one serves as a testament to the fact that Rolkopops is damn knowledgeable about the games, can play a bit, and can write quotable comments.  Go go gadget Rolko!

4. Xero - Sonic 1 - Green Hill 2 - I did not slow down or stop. How are there better records?
Xero's stat for this is 24 seconds; the record is 10 seconds faster.  It also requires insane timing and knowledge of the strat - like much of what happens at TSC.  I picked this comment because I completely sympathise with the sentiment; when I first joined the site, I was proud of my 29 second GH1(I remember the UK TV series GamesMaster running a competition on it where they set the 'world record' at 30s, so I felt really special about that one), only to be flabbergasted by the many many many many many many many many many many many people who'd got 25 (and then later 24).
That is, of course, the magic of TSC-no matter how good you think you are at something, 20 people do it better.

3. Cream147 - Sonic Adventure 2 - Prison Lane Mission 1 - This site would not run without average runs like this and average players like me
Cream, that is so true.  We love you very much, as we do everyone who takes part in our grand adventure.  Everyone is important, everyone is special, everyone contributes.
But, don't think that this excuses you from the mocking that everyone else has to tolerate. On to my acid barbs! You suck.

2. PsyBorg - Sonic 3D Blast - All Boss Rings - this calls for SERIOUS COMPETITION
As we have already learned, 3D Blast rings are the ultimate in whores records - easy to get, with an disproportionately large payoff, with the Boss charts particularly culpable  That's why I love this deliciously ironic comment, and the needless caps abuse is just the icing on the cake.  PsyBorg, I think I love you.  In a completely platonic, friendship kinda way.  Maybe if I got really drunk one day, something could happen between us, but as it stands I just want to hang out with you some more. No, really, I know what you're thinking, but until we add alcohol a friendly manhug is as far as this would go.

1. SadisticMystic - Sonic Adventure 2 - Wild Canyon Mission 5 - Haven't I broken enough levels to hell already?
This is obviously a rhetorical question, because he has.



Note to everyone: the word "finally", the ":D" smilie and bertin are now banned from comments >_>  Also, honourable mentions must go to Antiporcupine, whose chronicles of suckage amused me no end, and ShadowJacky, who, because of an especially toxic fbomb from his childhood, can now eat a bar of soap without any ill effects.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: KnucklesSonic8 on October 20, 2008, 11:21:23 am
RE: Top 10 Noobs
I remember cake! Good times. XD
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 20, 2008, 11:39:33 am
any mention is better than no mention >_>

kinda eager to play Heroes some more to see what else I can come up with for comments.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 20, 2008, 04:22:16 pm
***Minus bows
Hey, if I made you laugh, my job here is done.  Plus, I never thought I'd even make honorable mention in any of these.  Except perhaps the noobs ... but I'm not even good (bad?) enough for that.
And I think I can already tell what about half of the fads will be ... LandGrab, Mafia, Magic, the Pokemon Name Craze, and G-rated come to mind.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 20, 2008, 07:02:26 pm
Fads, huh?

STA was a big thing for a very short time...  some of the biggest names on the site mutilated said game in it's hightime...

I'm not really sure about those, but I do look forward to reading them!

Also: SM's quote is made out of pure win.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on October 21, 2008, 12:36:09 am
Trivia: inspired by the comment system of the Sonic Adventure World Rankings, I suggested comments. It was probably the fastest fulfilled feature request.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on October 22, 2008, 10:24:12 am
You guys are failing more than RPG. Seriously.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 22, 2008, 01:03:32 pm
zomg update

Okay so this has got sidelined a touch because both of us have other commitments (life outside TSC?  heresy!) and I also underestimated the time it would take to do stuff like trawl through every damned comment on the site >_>.  #5 is almost done and will be posted today, I've changed my mind about what #4 should be and will try to write and post it tonight as well.  #3, #2, and #1 will all be posted tomorrow for certain and are the best ones, promise :)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 22, 2008, 04:25:01 pm
So wait, you read ALL the comments?!?!  How does one go about doing that?!?!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on October 22, 2008, 06:32:27 pm
So wait, you read ALL the comments?!?!  How does one go about doing that?!?!

I don't think so... I would say they read "only" the last comment for each stat. They are crazy, anyway.

Doug, which was going to be the subject for the top ten #4 before you changed your mind?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 22, 2008, 07:20:33 pm
IIRC, it was going to be top ten fads ... they actually announced it awhile ago....
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 22, 2008, 07:24:30 pm
IIRC, it was going to be top ten fads ... they actually announced it awhile ago....
That's #5 and coming shortly.  #4 was Top Ten Holy Shit Moments.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 22, 2008, 08:24:24 pm
Awww, that would've been a good one. :(  Though "The Rise of Dhaos" probably would have been on there....
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 22, 2008, 10:02:02 pm
Awww, that would've been a good one. :(  Though "The Rise of Dhaos" probably would have been on there....
Me want to see the Holy Shit Moments.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 06:15:30 am
 5. Top Ten Fads
In biochemistry, flavin adenine dinucleotide (FAD) is a redox cofactor involved in several important reactions in metabolism. stupid Wikipedia >_>
We at TSC have short attention spans and like magpies tend to jump at new, shiny things. This means we're receptive to all kinds of trends, with a new obsession every week!  Here, we chronicle the best (or at least most entertaining) of these for your delectation.
It should be noted that any resurrection of the mentioned fads as a result of this topic carries the same sentence as thread necromancy: a silver bullet to the heart heavy ridicule for all eternity.  This means you, RPG.

10. Magic The Gathering
Magic: The Gathering is the original modern trading card game.  I can't pretend to know too much about it, being far too cool and fashionable for it's nerdy ways, but SBW and RPG are now attempting to get a box league going for this, but have as yet run into a resounding "meh", for as we all know trying to organise TSCers is like trying to herd ill-tempered mutated cats with frickin' lazer beams attached to their heads!
Also SBW rocks your face with these two totally awesome TSC-flavoured cards:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Spinballwizard/rolken.png)(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/Spinballwizard/rarg.png)


9. Sonic DIY
Back in the days before TUSC got going, we got hold of Sonic DIY, a Sonic engine and level editor that sparked a spate of creativity, culminating in the level building competition that can be found here (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1526.0).  There we learned many things: Thorn rocks at more than just TAing, RPG has a climbing fetish, and eggFL fails at life.  But seriously , go to the topic, download the levels, and play them - without egg's failures, they're pretty pwn.  What RPG?  Hey, no need for threats, just ask for whatever you want nicely.  Unless it's raep, in which case asking nicely kinda defies the point.
Oh right, he wants y'all to go submit at TUSC.

8. Horrible Misfortune Game

The Horrible Misfortune Game (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1276.0) stems from a time when committing graphic, wanton homicides with each other on the forum was very much the 'in' thing.  This particular incarnation was the brainchild of magnum12, a variation of Hangman wherein the person who solves the puzzle may gorge themselves with a cathartic (bloody) release on the last person to take a guess. It's a brilliant manifestation of our most rewarding impulse: to push a corkscrew into chum's eye, fish for the hyaloidic canal, gently twist the wrist, withdraw our corkscrews, and enjoy the tranquil 'floosh' of the eye as it's pushed out of the socket (I must remark that this is, pleasantly, not much unlike the sound of a hardboiled egg forced through a narrow glass jar) while a calming geyser of red and yellow, complimented nicely by friend's rhythmic spasms, brings the matter to a comforting, soulful warmth.
Unfortunately, we live in more "civilized" times. Due an unfortunate stigmatization yoked by dogmatic indolence, I've had to rent a storage locker there hasn't been a murder at TSC in weeks.

7. Uno
Uno is the gambling man's crack cocaine, and it rightfully occupied our attention for a few days. Some years ago, we found an Uno bot, bought some Cubans, and risked our futures on a pair of wdf's. A small group of dedicated players popularized the phenomenon, and soon a *slightly larger* group of dedicated players gambled away their time and dignity on the fraternity of disillusioned Sonic players, while we had to explain how you it was tilde-p-space-first letter of color-number with tilde-p-space-w for wilds (using tilde-color-first letter of color), tilde-p-space-wdf for wild draw fours (and you draw 6 cards if a player challenges you and you could have played another card instead), tilde-p-space-first letter of color-s for skips (incidentally, this was the first call of bs outside of its normal context), tilde-p-space-first letter of color-r for reverse, tilde-draw for draws, you have to type tilde-uno (card) when you're playing a card that will give you uno, or else you automatically draw four cards so everyone is free to laugh at you, and if you want to see card counts you just type tilde-players. Spinny, genus, Rolken, genus, Cherry, Mike, Sprint, genus, Mike, and more names were the original players, though owing a recent pseudo-revival more people than I care to list joined the fun. There were some classic games, and some unique strategies-while most players played to lose their cards in a game where you want to lose all your cards, genus and Sprint employed the brilliant strategy of getting as many cards as they could. If you're ever up for some laughs...you can find the game logs yourself here (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=395.0). I'm not digging for those.

6. Online Risk
Started by Upth, who had an account on warfish (http://warfish.net/), online risk is...like Risk, but online. A game in which players wage endless world war in order to bring about World Peace by establishing the Utopian Republic Of Rolkenland...but online! There were some heated games on yon Warfish, but the fad more or less fizzled out until The_T (not to be confused with Mr T, who would rather pity than be the fool) introduced us to LandGrab (http://landgrab.net), where there was a second reckoning. I personally enjoy the revival, since it's given me a chance to herald my glory throughout foreign lands and trick Sondow into losing every game.
Also this video (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e5TxzDY_sEk) must be watched by all Risk players - it ruined the game for me, so it must for the rest of you >:D

5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
This game was basically why everyone bought Nintendo Wiis, it was massively hyped. Even before release, TSC's near-constant speculation was a sort of fad. You can find some of the documented discussion  here (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2610.0), but even those 127 replies through 3 months don't do justice to our specied interest in the topic. Around the time of Japan's release, someone talked to Rolken and told him to cap spoiler discussion; all Brawl antics were to be confined to #smashspoilers (which, evidently, is still a moderately populated channel), with any exceptions punishable by instant banhammer. Sondow and RPG defied fearless leader, so they were socked two.
Following its stateside release, there was -intense- online action with a fair share of ridiculous matches. For weeks, there was almost nonstop Brawling. We had some rather ridiculous matches: superjump only games, falcon punch showdowns, hammer competitions, and so on. Saving a replay of anything under 3 minutes, regardless of its quality, then sending it to everyone, was mandatory; otherwise TSC would, as a collective, have too much Wii memory. Since he was the coolest in the game, King DDD was unanimously elected the TSC character, and the earth shook with his battles. It was also decided that Bowser would become the joke character, and that anyone who played as him must Bowsercide every stock to prevent other players from having fun.
Soon, it was established that genus and ShadowJacky could clean everybody's clocks as the worst characters in the game while wearing blindfolds, fighting piranhas, and playing with snow mittens. Of course, as dictated by TSC custom most people moved on to another worthy activity, so their supremacy would go forever unchecked. For TSC, Brawl is effectively dead; while I attempted to restore the game with an awesome tournament (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3740.0), the lack of interest is a sufficiently compelling reason to not bother.


4. Pogeymans Forum Names
A while ago, it was . . . err . . . fashionable to change your TSC forum name to that of a pogeyman - for reasons I've never been able to understand. Particularly popular were boring flying pogeymans (RPG was Starly, Quartz was Taillow, ...).  You'd have thought they could have chosen legendaries as a symbol of their aspirations and personal uniqueness...but no, I guess not. They're bog standard, common, and about to get their arses handed to them by my Tyranitar.
(http://www.freewebs.com/pokemonloverfanclub/tyranitar3.png)
WWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Actually it was an epic swarm of Magnezones (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2706.0) that ended the fad, try convincing the thing that lives in your basement otherwise.


3. Bertin the Bear
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c179/SkyLights1/BERTINcopy.jpg)
Oh, YES.


2. Mafia
The current, and best, chat fad is Mafia. The basic premise of the game is that the players are all villagers in an uncomfortably small village that has a number of mafioso. To further their criminal enterprises, these mafioso will kill a villager each night...for some reason.  In response, the villagers turn into an angry mob, and lynch whichever poor bugger the majority suspect is a Mafia member (making people offers that they "can't refuse" in a thick Italian accent and thinly veiled threats about "going against the family" are dead giveaways).  The village wins if all Mafia are lynched, and the Mafia win if they equal or outnumber the villagers at any point.  It's a game of deceit, mistrust ,and mob mentality, so it's only natural that TSCers have gravitated towards it. You can play a game and kill your least favorite members here (http://epicmafia.com).
Though interestingly, TSC was first introduced mafia over two years ago (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1538.0). This was a particularly interesting game, with the setup of one cop, six villagers, and two mafia. At Stefan's behest, we strung Douglas up on the lonely sycamore atop the austere hill of destiny; when I, as the cop, realized something wasn't quite right with Stefan, there were hour long conversations alleging mafiadom. ShadowJacky claimed that he was the cop, which he wasn't, and tight before the town lynched Stefan, the mafia fiend, he congratulated me on a job well done as his partner. After investigating ShadowJacky and concluding that was just a matter of SJ not really knowing what he was doing, genus valiantly led a charge against the *other* mafia fiend, Aitamen, on no real information. The topic itself reflected some of the chaos; there were secret messages everywhere, generally masked with the color tags (such as "I really vote for Stefan" above "I vote for Douglas"). It was a success, which is why it died out for so long. Stefan found a flash mafia program, and the rest is money.
With a game of Mafia, you can learn many things about people that you would otherwise never notice.  Firstly,  TSCers are all murderous bastards who can never be trusted. Some are so bloodthirsty that they can't even go a night without killing! Secondly, games with a disguiser in have shown that Stefan knows everything about everyone, and we should all make sure we lock our doors and close our curtains at night.  Thirdly, Douglas always wins still suffers from the delusion that he's actually good at stuff.  Finally, genus always knows what's going on and will lie to you just to play headgames for his own amusement is an honest and decent chap who can definitely be trusted and isn't toying with you at all.
Quote from: #soniccenter
<flyby> i am a mafiafag loud and proud


1. Phoenix Wright
The Phoenix Wright games involve the player becoming a lawyer to prosecute bad guys and defend innocents in an (albeit logically insane) court of law.  The Phoenix Wright fad involved TSCers becoming lawyers to use excessive number of pictures to back up the same old arguments we've always had on our (albeit logically insane) forums.  From PPA's furriness to RPG's inability to do work, PW became the accepted means of establishing truth and justice throughout TSC.  To give you an idea of just how far this stretched, there was in fact an occasion where Doug admitted he'd been out-argued - a truly momentous happening the like of which we're unlikely to ever see again.
Unfortunately, it transpired that the Court Of TSC was noting more than a sham when it emerged that the most prolific lawyers were in fact in control of the judge.  Groudon attempted to restore some order to the proceedings by assuming the mantle of an objective judge, but was eventually driven insane by the manic babbling of the TSC hoards, and was last seen attempting to hold the entire site in contempt of court (which really doesn't seem that unreasonable, if we're honest).  Doug then took it upon himself to end the fad by means of bash.org (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=3431.0), although unfortunately it's shown signs of reappearing in recent times.  Srsly guys, for general sanity we must disbar RPG and PPA now!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 06:16:25 am
placeholder for #4 >_>

Also #3 is One Trick Ponies and #2 is Jacks of All Trades - I'll give you guys a little speculating time then stick em up.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 24, 2008, 09:18:40 am
The crowd wants more!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 09:37:00 am
Well then the crowd shall get more.

 3. Top Ten One Trick Ponies
Being the best is tough, especially here at TSC.  It takes dedication, planning and practice, all of which are that much easier if it's your favourite game.  It also takes a healthy dose of skill, which is rare enough just for one game. Put these two together in one package, and you've got something special.  In this Top Ten, we celebrate those players who, while they may be none too shabby in many games, demonstrate an absurd level of excellence in their own specialty.

10. greycatmon
greycatmon the Riders player comes to us from the hive of scum and villany that is CyberScore.  His/her/its competing there dates back to November 07, which explains why he was able to attain near-instant domination in the Riders charts upon arriving on June 5th (it took only 4 days, in fact), and it was in that same month that he/she/it left us once more, never to be heard from again.  Also his Dark Desert 3-Lap Time Attack comment - I used Amy! (http://www.soniccenter.org/members/greycatmon/sonic_riders/time_attack/dark_desert/three_laps) disturbs me greatly.  Also also the fact he's registered as a Windows 98 user disturbs me greatly.  Also also also he/she/it needs to post here immediately and make my life easier damnit!

9. Paraxade
Paraxade has been with us since November 2007, is the champion of . . . Sonic 06.  Oh dear.  On the plus side, he's stemmed the DsS onslaught, which can only be a good thing (sorry DsS!).  Honestly I don't know so much about 06 (my copy is still loading <_<), but what we can say about Paraxade is that he has an outstanding level of knowledge about the game, as evidenced by his thoroughness all the stats, his level of detailed explanation of why certain . . . people couldn't have got the stats they claimed, and his involvement with the rules committee.
In topping DsS, Paraxade has demonstrated that he's got the skills - hopefully it's only a matter of time before they're applied more widely and I can unceremoniously kick him out of this list.

8. blazest
blazest might seem like a relative newcomer, having a registration date of October 07, is actually formerly known as blaze_japanese and is, as the former nick suggests, a Japanese player.  Typically, Japanese players have had their own TA and other gaming communities separate from the western worlds, although periodically there is cross-'boundary' movement (and last I checked, TSC holds up pretty well against gamers elsewhere - go team!).  I believe it was SM who first brought blazest here to compete in April 06, although he'd been playing long before then.  In his previous incarnation, he didn't submit; as blazest, however, he's laid waste to the SA2(B) charts, and now holds 2nd (yoshifan be warned!).
It's worth noting that blazest is the only non-champion in this chart; partly of course down to his competing in the Crown Jewel but also because of the large impact he's had in a short space of time; further, given he's going to be aware of all our strats now, there's the potential for an assault on the title itself, which would be great to see.
私の友人おめでとう!あなたの将来の努力で頑張って!
Finally, there has to be a shout-out to Psyknux, who was booted out of this chart at literally the last minute due to blazest's antics.  It's a testament to the strength in depth that TSC currently enjoys that this chart was so, so hard to make choices for and excludes great players like Psyknux and others who I'll come to later.

7. Zeupar
Hola Zeupar! ¿Cómo estás? Zeupar is our token Spanish type - hailing as he does from Madrid - and therefore knows how to use (and abuse) more types of punctuation than we have letters in the alphabet >_>.  He's been with us almost 2 years now, and his focus has been wresting the Sonic Advance championship from the grips of Nintendan.  Interestingly he's only 4th in Times (and hasn't submitted any special stage stats) - it's Rings and Scores where Zeupar earns his keep and in fact the championship.
Zeupar has shown signs of diversification, though - into the totally different world of . . . Advance 2 >_>  He has some pretty good times and (particularly) boss stats, so if he ever turned his attention to rings and scores there he could mount a half-decent challenge.  Fortunately he's far too busy exploring every nook and cranny of the site so's to annoy Gerbil with more bugs, and forum stalking people (seriously, he's been following me when I've been researching this stuff, he probably knew everything we were including before we started!).

6. SpinDashMaster
SDM came to us via SCD, and is the brains behind the Emerald Challenges amongst other things - but hey, this is about competition, and though SDM undoubtedly has plenty skills in the GeneDrive games (check the giz topic and of course the emerald challenges as examples of his knowledge and skill) he hasn't showed them in the charts thus far - the one he has shown his ability in is Rush.
SkyLights had held his position atop the Rush charts for many moons - it was his game.  SDM started his assault on the Rush charts not long after he joined, and had a strong start, reaching 2nd pretty quickly.  However he was forced to play second fiddle to SkyLights for many months, until in March this year he overturned the incumbent legend, and since then he's reigned atop the chart.
SDM has the love and knowledge of the Sonic series, and in Rush we can see he has the skill and dedication too - if he keeps it up, I forsee more championships in his future.

5. Quartz
Quartz and I (Douglas) go back a long way.  After championships were changed to include RA/SA stats, I held a commanding lead in the adv2 championship, having been the only person to bother with rings and scores way back when.  NintenDan and RPG were both inactive and it looked like there was nobody to take the fight to me.  Nobody, that is, until Quartz came on the scene.  Arriving in March 2006, it wasn't long after that he was challenging for the title, and of course he eventually wrested it from my grasp, reminding me a lot of RPG in his bringing a consistently high standard across all the different stats.  What followed was an intense period of back-and-forth competition between us in a serious throwback to the NintenDan vs RPG days; often, our title reigns were being measured in hours.  Even now with his being inactive and not indulging in score spamming (the latter probably costing him over 200 points), he holds a strong 4th place.
While I can attest to Quartz's abilities in adv2, I think we can all appreciate just how good he is at adv3.  If you don't - zero point Times leadership.  Deposing mike89 from any championship is a noteworthy achievement; doing so with this kind of pwnage is something special.  Sadly he didn't achieve it back when rings and scores didn't count for championships, and so hasn't held the Holy Grail of a 0p championship, but I for one wouldn't bet against him still being able to achieve that.  He's that good.
Quartz has some decent stats in other games (3rd in Riders is a good showing), but we all know where he truly excels.  Quartz's one trick may be all three of the Advance series, but hey - we make the charts, we can damn well choose whoever we like.

4. OmegaDJ
OmegaDJ has been with us since August 2007, and it was a short time indeed until he showed his credentials in Shadow - in 2 months he broke into the top ten, then a month later he was top 5, ending the year in 3rd with nearly all red time stats as well as the odd record - and this is up against some of our best 3D players like yoshifan and ShadowJacky.  His assault on the title continued unabated, and it was January 26th that marked his ascent to the very top.  Since then he's gone on to utterly dominate the competition, with a 0-point Rings leadership, and a smorgasbord of red spattered with a good chunk of records too, and one yellow stat - come on dude, sort that Egg Breaker Neutral.  Seriously.
OmegaDJ has made a start at Heroes and SA:DX as well, but it's in the gun-toting emohog's title game that he brings the win.

3. K-Dero
K-Dero is an extremely unhelpful player to write about, given that he/she/it has never posted on the forums <_<  What we can say is that after joining in April 2007, he/she/it has whittled his/her/its Sonic 3 stats down, until by the end of the year he was a serious contender (and had in the process taken my only times record off me, the git).  It took him until June to finally take the championship; however given that it was mike89 that he/she/it was deposing, we can forgive the timeliness and merely recognise the achievement.
Seriously though, you and greycatmon need to get with the boards.  It's where all the cool kids hang out (and RPG too, but it's OK, he's harmless really).

2. stanski
Stanski was brought to TSC from SDA by our very own mike89 to hone his skills for a Sonic 2 run - little did he know the wrath he was unleashing upon the S2 charts!  It took him but a few months to completely annihilate all competition, taking the championship and phenomenally whittling his points to zero.  Oh, and he got a 20:02 speedun for SDA to boot.  These days he has that down to 18:45, a quite staggering total, and though he doesn't hold complete domination over the chart his 350+ point lead lets everyone know who the daddy is.
Stanski is clearly an epically good gamer; he has SDA speedruns for Dark Castle and Toy Story and decent stats for S1 and S2GG, but at TSC it's Sonic 2 where he is untouchable.  I shudder to think what will happen if he turns his attention to other 2D games - we just won't stand a chance, guys.

1. Jawzun
Jawzun first graced the scene in October 2006, and was always an SA:DX player, but we didn't really appreciate just how good a one he is.  He was the discoverer of a technique he calls the "Fake Homming Attack" - we never did work out how one does a homm, but no matter, because applying it and his prodigious talent brought him TA record after TA record, with the eventual result being the championship as well as the kudos for wiping out Cybrax's last untied record (City Escape 3).
Perhaps the most amazing thing about Jawzun, though, are the forum topics about him.  Anyone else coming in and dominating such a popular chart would spend their life dodging noobs' accusations of cheating; Jawzun has 3 topics encouraging him to go for various achievements in the game.  Jawzun is proof that anyone can come into an established and competitive game, break new ground and dominate the competition while remaining well liked by all.
Bastard.



Again, I just want to emphasise how tough this chart was to put together for the deluge of excellent players; there are a ton of excellent players who didn't make it through being great but not champion (Psyknux and F-man spring to mind) or for the 'crime' of being good at other games (people like RingRush and . . . err . . . me >_>).  Maybe we should have a Top Ten People Who Weren't In This One Or #2!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 24, 2008, 09:38:56 am
I am honored to say that I was never a part of the top fad.

I'll get back to you on the others. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 24, 2008, 12:16:23 pm
The crowd screams for more!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Shadow Jacky on October 24, 2008, 01:04:49 pm
ah damn, maybe if I didn't start playing all of those other games just for quick points :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 03:10:05 pm
2. Top Ten Jacks Of All Trades
In the last Top Ten, we described how hard it is to achieve greatness in one game. It is therefore astonishing that we have players who bring the pwnage across the many games and varied disciplines we compete in here at TSC.  We're looking for strong performances in the original 2D games, in 16-bit land, in 3D, in the new-style 2D games and in what we shall generously call "misc" which is basically everything else.  Though they might not be the absolute best at every game they play, the sheer breadth of their awesome deserves the recognition they get here.
Note: it is not a requirement of this chart to be called Jack, but it can't hurt your chances :)

10. nobody?
Whu?  What the hell is going on here?  No #10?
Well, yes.  As explained in the last chart, it's hard enough being great at one game at TSC, never mind across sufficient categories to be considered for this one.  High rankers we might have for this one are players like Shadow Jacky, who may be supreme in the 3D stakes but his 10th in S1 is purely about rings (3D Blast doesn't count for GeneDrive in my warped little world) and he has no presence in new-skool 2D; maggot, if he played more than 4 games and any of them were at all recent; sonicam, who again rocks in 3D but has no GeneDrive or GBA/DS pwnage to speak of; me if only I could play 3D AT ALL; Judgement (who totally would have got this if he'd placed any higher in SA:DX, by the way) - the list goes on and on, but nobody's really brought the win in three out of the four main categories (and I'm not weighting misc highly enough to make up for that - sorry SJ!).
Okay, so this comes across as a bit of a cop-out - which it is, I guess - but also a message to all of us.  That sage oracle of Pure Pwnage, teh_Masterer, tells us "to truly pwn, one must pwn in all games".  This is a call to arms for all of us - let's take the fight to these 9 noobs!

9. bertin
Okay, hands up who saw this one coming?  I know I've associated bertin with . . . well, the past stupidness we don't need to go over, and recently the comedy being-a-bear shenanigans, but blow me if he isn't a damn good player too.  bertin's been with us just over 2 years, joining in October 2006, and unlike a lot of players on these two charts, he didn't exactly set the rankings alight as soon as he got here - in fact, it wasn't until nearly a year later that he really made any impact at all.  The first game he was to make an impression on was to be Sonic R, jumping straight into 3rd spot; this was quickly followed up by decent showings in Sonic CD and STT as well as a bunch of other submissions across many charts.  Fast forward to the new year and he's up to 2nd spot in STT (he may have been champ at some point but Time Machine's playing up for me; doubtless bertin or SkyLights can enlighten us all with the knowledge).  He also briefly held the Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity title by dint of being the only competitor >_>.  Moving into the summer, we start to see where bertin earned his spot here; the STT title was definitely clinched then and held for a respectable time (he now holds 2nd once more), and he had earned a spot in the Heroes top ten with some pretty impressive stats; also of note moving towards now are his continued strength in CD, earning him a few marks in the GeneDrive portion of this selection, 10th in SA:DX to accompany Heroes in the 3D bracket, and very strong places in S2GG and Chaos to go with STT.
What bertin doesn't have, though, is any real presence in new-skool 2D; however the rest of his profile shows he's got plenty talent across a variety of games.  Congratulations dude - oh, and since you're no longer TSC's Most Underestimated Member, you need a new forum subtitle.  My vote goes to "The Little Bear That Could".

8. Thorn
Thorn - originally gamersince93, until RPG and Aitamen convinced him that was too much of a mouthful - joined us in November 2005 (yeah, I thought he'd been around forever too!).  Besides various hacking exploits and working at TUSC, he's found the time to be a pretty awesome competitor.
It took Thorn just a couple of weeks to grab top spot in the game he's most well known in, Knuckles Chaotix.  He followed that up with a foray into the top 5 of Sonic CD, Sonic Jam, and STT, setting what would become a recurring theme in Thorn's time here - strong performances across a number of games at a time.
It would take far too long to list all the games that Thorn was competing in over the next few months (all the while continuing to head the Chaotix charts, and not just because nobody cares ok).  By the time his 1-year anniversary rolled around, he was competitive in 26 games and top ten in 20 of them, although to the best of my knowledge he hadn't taken any further championships.  One was to follow in March of 2007 though, as Thorn claimed the 3D Blast crown (and his vids (http://www.soniccenter.org/videos/sonic_3d_blast) are worth checking out).  There was more back-and-forth over that one that Thorn was used to (read: any at all), but he was the top dog throughout 2007.  At the start of 2008, Thorn then claimed another title, although somewhat less impressively this time as there were only 2 other Rivals 2 players at the time >_>.  This was probably when Thorn was at his peak at TSC; soon thereafter he lost both Rivals 2 and 3D Blast; he did hold Jam for a bit though, bringing his championship count up to 4 (edit: 5, apparently he had SPA at one point).
Thorn falls down due to a lack of 8-bit skills and an average showing in the 3D games, but just looking at the sheer number of games he's got orange ranks in - particularly in the games we're unfairly lumping together in "misc" - and you'll understand why he deserves his place.  I hope he won't mind me saying he's not been seen as the kind of epic champion we're accustomed to singing the praises of here, but he very much embodies the spirit of all-around pwnage of this chart.

7. sonichero
sonichero has been around since forever (also known as February 2004), although has been pretty much inactive of late.  As of this writing he holds no championships; however, he's got strong performances in many charts, so let's take a look at what qualifies him for 7th spot.  First off, on the GeneDrive-era 2Ders: he holds a very respectable 4th place in Sonic 3, but it's Sonic CD where he shines - although he's never really challenged maggot's iron grip on the championship he's pretty well represented across all categories and currently holds 2nd.  Likewise with Knuckles Chaotix, I don't think he's ever taken Thorn's title, but another 2nd place is still decent even if it's a game nobody cares about >_>.  Moving on to the 8-bit games, we see top ten places in all of them, although again no championships and nothing that really jumps out as spectacular - just consistently good performance across the field.  Again, in the Advances we see top ten places for all, with 3rd in Advance 1 being the highlight here.  In the 'misc' categories we also see good performances; back in the early days of TSC, sonichero was champion of both Battle and Sonic R, still holding 5th in the former.
It's really the 3D titles in which sonichero falls down; although once upon a time he was a highly ranked SA:DX player those days are sadly long since passed; 12th isn't bad, but it isn't really enough to pimp you as a 3D player; further, the lack of championship reigns does have to be taken into account.  Still, sonichero clearly demonstrates a ton of skill across the board (and it's worth remembering that many of his stats date back many years and still hold up well today).  sonichero holds 6th spot on the sitewide rankings, and 7th on our list of awesome.  Congrats dude :)

6. DarkspinesSonic
March 17th, 2007.  A day that will live in the memories of TSCers for a long time, for it was then that DsS (then known as Da1AndOnlySonic) joined the site.  He immediately made a mark, needing only 3 days to take his first championship in Sonic 06.  He did realise that Sonic 06 is crap and nobody cares, though, and moved in on the Sonic Battle championship, first taking it on April 27th.  They he realised that nobody cares about Battle, and seized both the Riders championship (14th May) and Fighters (23rd May).  That's 4 championships in just over 3 months.
Fortunately for the rest of us, DsS's rate of progress then slowed - it took him until late on in the year to realise that he still wasn't champion in anything anyone cared about!  The next to fall were Drift (12th December) and Drift 2 (20th December), and then just to make this unfunny joke stretch even further he took 3D Blast (30th January).  At this time, there was a concerted effort to fight back - Thorn issued a rallying call to all TSCers when DsS passed RPG for fourth in the Sitewides back in December (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2852.0 (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=2852.0)) and the site experienced huge activity, but it was no use - DsS continued his domination of irrelevant charts.
It was clear, however, that he was finally turning his attention to bigger things, however; he had a bunch of impressive Heroes stats and was rapidly closing in on the upper echelons of the SA:DX charts.  It was in the latter that he finally cemented his place as a true TSC great on February 19th, placing himself above Jawzun, F-Man, yoshifan and other such luminaries in one of TSC's most prized championships (and holding his personal best of 7 simultaneous titles).
Almost exactly a year after he joined, on March 30th 2008, DsS achieved what had once been thought impossible but with his rise had become almost inevitable - he surpassed mike89 in the sitewide rankings, claiming his place as TSC's #1 (and fortunately Rolken didn't follow through on his threat to take down TSC if it happened).  At the time, he was only champion of the Drifts, Riders and Fighters, but as we've seen he'd shown he was massively competitive across a large number of games.  These days, he has Heroes and Chaos (zero pointed!) in his grubby little paws too, and a commanding lead in the sitewides.
The thing that stops DsS being further up is that despite the fact he's held a whopping 10 different championships, he's not got the GeneDrive (3D Blast doesn't count ok) or Advance/Rush brackets covered - yet.  However, with a current tally of 5 championships held and an overall sitewide rank of #1, it wouldn't really be possible to have this list without him.  Also, now I've said all this, ten quid says by next time round he's got championships in both >_>

5. eredani
eredani joined us in November 2005, and is an arse because he took away my rightful #1 spot in the Periodic Top Ten chart the next year.  Also he played some games and stuff.
eredani quickly gained a reputation as a destroyer of records with a huge breadth of skill.  Historically, he's been fantastic at three games in particular: Sonic Heroes, where he battled over the championship with Shadow Jacky; S&K in which he locked horns with mike89; and Chaos, which he originally pinched from mike but later came under attack from many people seeking a cheap championship.  The remarkable thing about this, though, isn't the three championships and defences thereof, it's that they were all happening at the same time - few players can hold off assaults from players of that caliber in a single game, never mind three completely different styles of competition.
These days he's also strong in S1/2/3 (particularly 3), Shadow and STT, but it's the fending off some of our best in three games at once that firmly cements his place on this list.  Had he a presence in the new-skool 2D titles and maybe a bit more of a showing in the 3D titles, he's be a serious contender for #1 on this list.  I should also take this opportunity to remind him that he claimed he would be #1 sitewide by the end of 2008 - quite where that's going to come from, we don't know, but hey - if anyone can peg DsS back a bit, it's eredani.

4. SkyLights
Wait what?  SkyLights in this category?  Surely all he does is Rush and Rush Adventure?
Well no, actually.  It was Rush that drew him in to the site when he joined in December 2005, and by his own admission his various tussles therein (against Ben, Crowbar and latterly his loss of the title to SDM) have shaped him into the gamer he is today.  However, while he's long been acknowledged as the best DS gamer TSC has to offer (sorry SDM!), he's also excellent across the other categories for this section.  He's shown 8-bit talent by taking the STT championship; he snatched the S&K championship from mike89 and has a decent showing in S1, so he has the GeneDrive base covered; and he's also been champ of SSR.  In fact, he held all 5 of the championships he's had at once, making him the most prolific champion at the time.
SkyLights' weakness in this Top Ten is 3D - despite 11th in SA:DX and 3rd in SSR (with a former championship), he's never shown himself to be truly amongst the greatest to grace this category.  However, that doesn't take anything away from his other achievements, his 7th place in the sitewide ranksings, and a thoroughly deserved place on this list.

3. yoshifan
Yoshifan has respectable stats in Sonic 1, Shadow and Advance 3 as well has his infamous SA2(B) dominance, and in the last Top Tens mike described him as the definitive all-rounder, so it's only fair he end up in here.  When he started at TSC way back in 2003, Yoshifan was known as a 2D specialist, and in the early days he and SM held a monopoly on 2D vids, and in fact many of his GeneDrive stats hold up well even today (he'd be much more competitive if he filled out the brackets, particularly the points whore ones we've already discussed).  He's also not bad at Advance 3, holding 8th spot.  However, it was after a brief hiatus that he returned at the tail end of 2005 to take on what was to become his calling: the 3D titles.  Initially smashing records right and left in Heroes, he went on to take the Shadow championship in short order, before turning his eye on SA2(B).  Despite it being our most competitive game, Yoshifan has at the time of writing amassed an almost-500 point lead - a deficit so brutal it's quite possible it won't ever be overturned.  To hold that level of dominance over the most prized championship is nothing short of sensational.
Yoshifan could easily have been top of the One Trick Pones chart for the utter domination of TSC's Crown Jewel, but he clearly shows his abilities across a range of games.  Fear him.  Or play something other than SA2(B).  Either works.

2. RPGnutter
RPG has been around since before forever, being one of the original GameFAQs competitors prior to TSC's inception.  He was the creator of the SA2(B) Boss Times topic, where his epic site-spanning rivalry with Mike first began, and was brought to the site shortly after it started by SS101 (hear that guys - he's to blame!).  It took him a while to get going, but in early 2004 he was establishing himself as a serious contender in SA2(B) and Adv2.  It was around this time that the myth of TSC's Unluckiest Member began, for he held a bunch of championships but none for more than 2 days - this was at least in part due to him being an early submitter in new charts, and otherwise because he sucks and is lazy amirite *bricked*
During the downtime, RPG's rivalries with Mike and SS101 kept competition going, and it was these guys that attacked the charts hardest when TSC returned.  RPG and SS101 both went at it tooth-and-nail in SA2(B) (followed shortly thereafter by the pwnage streak of Rayku), leaving Mike in the dust (which is an achievement by itself).  With Cybrax no longer active, Rayku topped the boards from SS101 then RPG - a period of fierce competition ensued, but it took the introduction of scores and rings to championship rankings to give him the title for the first time.  What followed was an intense period of championship swapping action between the two of them, with RPG eventually eking out enough of a lead to hold the championship for a decent time.
Then there's Advance 2.  Unlike with Adventure 2, RPG actually became champion in short order, deposing Zealous with a strong showing in both Times and Bosses.  He wasn't allowed to rest on his laurels, though, as NintenDan was hot on his heels, first in Times then later in Bosses.  Taco's taking the championship sparked a 6-month continual fight over the title described best in a previous Top Ten; suffice to say I (Douglas) turned up and thought I'd put him out of action, especially with rings/scores being added.  How wrong I was - SpinballWizard discovered a technique that allowed for huge scores to be obtained through button mashing, but it was RPG who successfully put it into practice, surpassing myself and Judgement to become champion once more.  Judgy's awesome and my succumbing to score scalping has left him behind in 3rd these days, but he's been a huge trailblazer in this game, especially with Bosses (what is it with you and bosses btw?).
If I'm honest, I don't really know the details of his other escapades, but in his time here, RPG has racked up 8 championships, and is currently strong in Sonic 1, SA2(B), S1GG, SPA and Adv2, which covers all the bases set out for this category - a truly impressive feat (although it might be more so if his only current title was something other than SPA, I mean srsly).  RPG is the All-Rounder, but the greatest is . . .

1. mike89
Until DsS replaced him at the head of the sitewides, mike had long been held up as the very best TSC has to offer.  Joining up way back in 2004, mike started out competing in Advance and Adventure 2 before spreading out to Sonic 1 through S&K, in which he left a trail of broken and bloodied competitors in his wake, holding S2, S3 and S&K for considerable lengths of time (indeed, he held S3 for around 3 years).  When he turned his attention to the Game Gear games, he butchered them all, holding all championships except STT, and when he turned to Adv3 he displaced the legend of the Advance series that is NintenDan.
Following the Great Downtime, Mike spammed all the charts to take cheap championships was a stalwart of the site, spurring competitions across many games.  At one point he held 10 championships at once, although he prefers to count it as 7 as that was the state 'when the dust had settled' - either way, it's a terrific achievement.  Another consequence of the downtime was that Mike was close enough for a tilt at the Adventure 2 title - at least until RPG and SS101 got off their backsides a couple of days later and put him in his place.  Still, few have ever been so close to the Crown Jewel.
Upon the introduction of sitewide rankings, it was pretty obvious they would show Mike as TSC's greatest (and not only because he had a hand in their creation, either!)  These days he has to settle for second, and even more shockingly for old hands like me he doesn't hold a single championship at the time of writing.  That said, a quick look at mike's profile shows how good he still is across so many different disciplines.  Top 5 in S1 through S&K cement his old-school 2D credentials (arguably where he excels most); 3rd in Heroes and a top ten place in TSC's most competitive game Adventure 2 show he can bring it in 3D; top 5 in all 8-bit games and 2nd in SPA show he's at home on the underpowered machinery; 2nd in adv3 and 4th in Rush show he's more than competent at the new-skool 2D too.  Let's bear in mind that he's been quiet on the competition front for a while and his stats still hold up amongst the best - if he ever gets it into his head to take up serious TSC competing again, everyone's in trouble.  Outside the charts he's done epic SDA runs as well as the now infamous Sonic Olympics S2 marathon run.  There is nobody who performs to such a high standard across so many different types of game as Mike.
In the last Top Ten, mike didn't rate himself at #1, but we're not him so we don't have to be modest (yeah yeah, different criteria, bloody pedants).  Anyway, congratulations Mike!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 24, 2008, 04:52:12 pm
Man... I loves this place!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Stefan on October 24, 2008, 05:11:57 pm
DSS so should have been higher. And I think bertin was totally wrong.

But that's just me >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on October 24, 2008, 05:55:24 pm
/me looks at Stefan's reply #666
/me runs screaming from the room

Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: magnum12 on October 24, 2008, 06:06:13 pm
Yes, yes. My first appearance in a TSC top 10 since I've been here (come close before under honorable mention, but have never actually hit the charts). Those were some good times. Only 4 of them involved casualties (they respawned harmlessly anyway), the rest were more dark comedy shenanagins. I would love to play another game of that (have a bunch of horrible new non-lethal ideas), but old fads have to stay dead. IIRC, that thread was one of the largest non sticky threads in TSC history at the time.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 06:25:42 pm
1. Top Ten Historic Moments
So here it is, the #1 Top Ten. As it's the 5th anniversary of the site, it's only right that we end this epic journey with a look back at the events that have forged the history of the site.

10.The Changing Of The Guard
On March 30th 2008, mike89 was finally knocked off the top spot of the Sitewide Rankings.  As we know, Mike has been around and been rated as pretty much our best player since forever, whereas DsS was just over a year old as a TSCer (interestingly he joined within 7 days of the Sitewides actually going live - GS, fiddle the numbers so it looks prophetic kplz) and as such wouldn't have been around for most of the rest of the entries in this list.  This isn't an excuse to be an old fart complaining about how things were better in the old days, though; we have our Jebus figures who inspire us to excel, and our successors who knock us off our lofty perches, and that's as it should be.
Times change, and TSC only goes from strength to strength.  Long may the pwnage continue.

9. TSC3
On June 11th 2004, TSC3 was launched.  It featured themes (Stardust Present still pwns you ok, Chaos Angel is for noobs), support for historical ranks (aka the time machine), proper URLs of the format we know today (eg http://www.soniccenter.org/members/douglas/sonic_advance_2) and most importantly database changes that really paved the way for what TSC was to become in the future.  Spectacular it may not have been, but TSC3 really marked TSC's transition from a forum-topic-replacement to a genuine hub of competitive play.

8. TSC4
Amongst our community, we've had a tradition of alternative gaming challenges since before the site even began - fastest deaths, levels completed without getting any rings, that kind of thing - and accompanying them there's always been topics dedicated to destroying other games the way we destroy those featuring our favourite blue spikeball.  The obvious thought, then, is why not spread the TSC love to these games too?
Originally announced in May 2006 (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1444.0), TSC4 was intended to allow fans of any and all game series to run their own version of TSC, to spread the competitive love outside the Sonic community.  TSC4 took a while to make it into reality because Rolken was totally inconsiderate and did pointless things like get married, but we now do indeed have 3 subsites - for Sonic fangames, Mario, and Mega Man.
While the subsites have seen some action, what I think they've struggled to replicate is the awesome TSC community we have.

7. Video Submissions
As we all know now, videos are an absolute mainstay of the site.  They are a means of showing how much you pwn (and of course proving you're not a BSer), of spreading your strats to all the other players, and (especially since YouTube became so popular) a means of promoting TSC itself - in fact there are a good few players we have now who've been brought here by our video awesomeness.  However, it wasn't always so - videos were first permitted in August 2004, and you had to be authorised to upload so that TSC didn't get filled with teh pr0nz (despite PPA's best efforts)
There are currently OVER 9000 over 900 videos uploaded to TSC - the 1000th vid will receive a Special Prize from me*!

*Special Prize may not be special or even, strictly speaking, a prize

6. The Emerald Challenges
The forums have always had their share of alternative challenges for people to compete in; topics for challenges such as completing levels without rings or getting the fastest death possible are a tradition amongst our community that stretches back to before the site even existed.  The Emerald Challenges, originally an SCD project, came to us through their master and overlord SpinDashMaster in October 2006.  The basic premise is that you complete a task in the original GeneDrive like completing levels without spindash or remaining underwater for obscene amounts of time.  They ramp up in difficulty all the way up to the Master Emerald challenges, which I don't think we've had anyone complete all of, though Thorn is damn close (*prepares to be shouted down by someone 1337*).  The Emerald Challenges brought a bunch of new people to TSC, provided a welcome and fun distraction from the daily grind of Epic TAing(tm) and were a great way for those new to the competitive gaming scene to get started.  The levels of activity we had, particularly in the early days, are still a fond memory of mine (and I'm sure many other share this sentiment).
Latterly, there spawned the frankly epic fanfic-disguised-as-challenge Cough Drop Challenges (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?board=112.0) courtesy of SM, and the frankly less than epic fanfic-disguised-as-challenge Mural Challenges (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?board=114.0) courtesy of RPG; there have also been some attempts to get ones going for other series, although that's never seemed to have had a huge amount of traction.
Things are pretty quiet on the EC front these days; to the best of my knowledge they're no longer being judged and the last activity in the sub-forum is over a month old.  However, they're a good deal of fun if you haven't done them yet, and they mark a great time of new and varied competition at TSC, and for that we honour them here.

5. The Sonic Olympics
The Sonic Olympics was a competition organized by the Sonic Cage Dome, featuring netplay and TA competitions.  Also participating were TSS, SoaH and TSF, but the main competition was between SCD and TSC.  The early events passed with SCD securing a slight advantage (see http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1001.0 (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1001.0) for a fuller account) - SCD were showing their ability in the netplay stakes, but TSC had to be favourites as the remaining events were predominantly TA based.  Even early in the tournament there was bickering between the two sides over rulings, but I don't think anyone quite expected the silliness that was to follow.
It was one event that ensured the Olympics would remain forever notorious in TSC's history.  As we know, mike89 is a kick-ass player of all games, and at the time particularly good at the GeneDrive ones, and he was to represent us in the Sonic 2 marathon - fastest time through the game, start to finish, wins.  This was an event made for Mike, and he didn't disappoint, setting a time of 23:14 (real-world time of 28:20) which any S2 players will recognise as something quite special.  In fact even the SCD judge (whose idea was it to have one of the teams as sole judge, I mean that was never going to end well) recognised how good it was, but found some "issues" - namely that Mike supposedly had used autofire (which SM debunked by using his 1337 h4X0r skillz on the file to show the uneven distribution of button presses), and that the recording he submitted had too large a file size (Mike had started from a savestate rather than true power on - legally, at the time - which adds the state to the file).  Having been roundly chastised for this, the tack swapped to Mike having used slowdown - not emulator slowdown, though, a third-party app that slowed it down for the recording then allowing it to be played back normally - apparently SM could make this because he knew what hex was and the judge didn't (how this is possible but computers wouldn't be able to autofire exactly every 1/30th of a second we never did ascertain).  After many, many hours of patient discussion, though, sanity broke through - the decision was finally reversed and TSC were declared the winners - Rolken even got a t-shirt out of it.  He gets all the cool shit because he's awesome and stuff.
For a short while thereafter there was a degree of loldrama in the relations between SCD and TSC that I don't care to retread; suffice to say that's all ancient history now, common sense prevails and its live and let live.  Milky bars for everyone!

4. Introduction Of Sitewide Rankings
For many years there was much debate about how we could determine who the best at TSC was.  We had Top Tens, we had chatroom bantering and we had outright bragging (anyone else remember the series of "I'm calling you out" topics?  Whatever happened to them?).  On March 10th 2007, they were finally introduced, proclaiming that the best of the best were mike89, RPG and sonicam in that order (of course, the fact Mike had a hand in the formula has nothing to do with it, honest!).
The Sitewides reward excellence across many games, encouraging people to compete in charts they wouldn't otherwise, and showing who the best of the best really are.  Some might say they determine your worth as a human being, but as RPG is still quite far up that's idea is clearly rubbish and should be discouraged.

3. Scores/Rings Added To Rankings
For the first two years of TSC's life, the focus was on speed, speed and more speed - however, there were long and varied discussions about how to incorporate rings and scores into the main competition (and if they even should be).  It was in fact genus of Top Ten Top Tens fame (lol selfplug) who first suggested scores being weighted way back in July 2004.  Suggestions ranged from creating separate championships for Times and Scores, Times and Scores/Rings, Times and Scores/Rings and Overall True Champion - we could go on, but you get the gist of it.  Most of the resistance was against Rings, the thought being that they were too easy (see Top Ten #7), although there were the speed-is-everything purists too.  The eventual consensus was of course the model we know now - leaderships per division and an overall championship consisting of them all.  At the time, not many were playing Scores or Rings, and players were given time to beef up their stats in preparation for the switch, but the changeover at the tail-end of 2005 still resulted in a bunch of switcharounds, amongst them RPG grabbing the SA2(B) title for the first time.
Even now it's a contentious issue, with recent discussions on reducing the weight of Rings and Scores or even removing them from championships altogether - what can't be denied, though, is that there are players who love them, they've added variety and drama to the charts, and the impact of their inclusion is one of the biggest things to happen to TSC.

2. The Great Downtime
April 1st, 2005.  TSC is going from strength to strength, boasting 23 games and some excellent competition, when suddenly it vanishes without a trace.  At the time, Rolken was AWOL, so nobody knew what was happening, and when (or if) TSC would return.  In June, Rolken reappeared to promise TSC's return, and on July 5th the site was indeed back - unfortunately, the last stats backup was from December.
So what's the big deal here?  A fledgling site had a couple of months downtime; it happens, it's annoying but not world-ending.  Well, in this case, it stirred up all sorts of competitive drama.  Many had been competing hard during TSC's absence, chief amongst them mike89 who was able to take a massive 10 simultaneous championships when the site returned (although he claims only 7 of them count, the others being just that he was first to re-enter stats for them) but also RPG, OSG and others.  The few days following the site's reappearance were a veritable orgy of submissions and competition, although oddly nobody will now talk about what happened to restore normality.  One conspiracy theory states Rolken had a select few troublemakers killed to restore order (although why he'd leave RPG is anyone's guess).
The Great Downtime now has passed into TSC folklore as both the site's Second Coming and a terrible reminder of what it's like to be deprived of the site for any length of time.  We can only hope there will never be a repeat - so Gerbil, don't go near the server when you've been drinking kplz.

1. Genesis (see what I did there?)
In the beginning, there was the Site, and the Site was GameFAQs - specifically, the message boards for SA2(B).  There could be found topics full of TA goodness, and amongst the posters were names like RPGnutter, NintenDan, Cybrax, SS101, SadisticMystic and mike89.  Given the popularity of the game for competitive play and the fact that every other post on that board was character analysis of Shadow, it was clear that somewhere saner was needed for competitors to gather and strut their stuff.  The first incarnation of this was SA Elite, where competitors all had their own page to put their stats for whichever categories they liked.  One person, though, thought it was a bit silly to have stats all over the place like this, and created somewhere where everyone's stats could be collected in one place.  His name was Rolken, and I think you all know what's coming next.
On October 23rd 2003, the ParaSonic Competition Center was born (and of course it wouldn't be me if I didn't point out the amount of Fail in that name >_>).  Initially, submissions are manual, anyone can submit a time for anyone else, and only 4 games were available - the two Adventures and the first two advances.  To kick start the rankings Rolken primed them with stats from SA Elite, which went live on the 26th.  Not everything made the jump (there were topics for things like lowest scores); a key one that did was SA2(B) Boss rankings, for the Boss TA topic at GFAQs was very popular when it was inexplicably wiped, the consequence of which was members jumping over to us full-time, including the infamous RPG.  In November, the submissions system became automatic (although there was still no login so you could still change others' stats); it was in December, though, that the site as we know it came to be.  Along with a name change to The Sonic Center and a move to www.soniccenter.org came the addition of the classic GeneDrive games (Sonic CD included).
The rest, as they say, is history.

Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 24, 2008, 06:34:46 pm
Oh noes a double post

So I thought I'd take a minute to round up a little.  I said when we started this it was a touch ambitious and so it proved; I think we had a good go at being entertaining and informative though (mind you, if Gerbil wasn't getting drunk and violating the server we would have posted this all on the big day).

I'd like to thank a few folks: obviously there's genus, who has been amazing to write with as I hope comes across; mike for his History of TSC topic and various other helpings; RPG for also furnishing me with infos of the less accurate variety; epicmafia.com for being the real reason we ran behind welcome relief when needed; Thorn for not killing me when I buggered up the Sonic DIY entry and deprived him of his rightful glory; Zeupar for forum-stalking me and probably finding out everything I was writing about in the process; all the various peoples who keep shit (mostly) running (Gerbil, SM et al); Rolken for starting the whole shebang; and everyone else for being cool and giving me material.

Finally, happy birthday TSC and here's to five more years!

Doug out~
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on October 24, 2008, 08:37:02 pm
Well, nice to see all of them (but #4) up, and there's certainly plenty of interesting top tens.  That certainly makes up for the downtime of top tens >_>
/me shot
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 25, 2008, 12:54:18 am
EPIC!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 25, 2008, 01:28:32 am
Why bother =/...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on October 26, 2008, 12:33:04 am
Douglas #1 was awesome. I loved it. TSC is a special place, and I'm glad you could capture some of the great moments.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on October 26, 2008, 03:07:52 am
Get #4 done already, dammit.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 26, 2008, 06:32:23 am
^ agreed....

Also, I'd like to note that the top-ten topic for the tenth year better be epic...  or else!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 29, 2008, 04:03:26 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on October 29, 2008, 10:10:43 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on October 29, 2008, 11:26:42 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 30, 2008, 12:49:34 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Muzozavr on October 30, 2008, 03:27:45 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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FTW
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 30, 2008, 03:55:51 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: magnum12 on October 30, 2008, 04:08:02 pm
Can we please stop building the Great Quote Pyramid of TSC? *Sends a mob of Killa Kans to tear it down with Rokkit Launchas and Power Claws.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Muzozavr on October 30, 2008, 04:50:01 pm
Agreed. I've tired to end it with a lulz, but that didn't work.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on October 30, 2008, 04:54:07 pm
hey, now that you mention it...it DOES look like a pyramid, even if it's a bit rectangular...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 31, 2008, 03:19:00 am
It looks like a Solitare Mah-Jong layout.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on October 31, 2008, 03:53:02 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on November 04, 2008, 08:54:03 pm
Get #4 done already, dammit.
That.  I was gone ten days and it's still not there <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on November 04, 2008, 08:56:02 pm
<Entire cast of Monty Python and the Holy Grail> GET ON WITH IT
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: bertin on November 04, 2008, 09:10:14 pm
<Entire cast of Monty Python and the Holy Grail> GET ON WITH IT

I could have sworn he said he quit with the tops.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on November 04, 2008, 09:11:04 pm
That doesn't excuse its unfinishedness.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on November 09, 2008, 02:55:56 pm
You guys suck :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on November 09, 2008, 05:07:03 pm
I hereby declare that Top Ten Top Ten #4 is "Top Ten Blank Spaces" and we leave it at that.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on November 09, 2008, 10:27:46 pm
How about my bio from some years past while we're doing the whining.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on November 09, 2008, 10:35:33 pm
lol
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on November 10, 2008, 02:44:03 pm
How about my bio from some years past while we're doing the whining.

I ate it, along with dougs
Title: Epic 3 month bump
Post by: Luxray on February 25, 2009, 01:44:18 am
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on February 25, 2009, 09:57:37 pm
Unnecessary revival is unnecessary
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on February 25, 2009, 11:41:51 pm
Unnecessary revival is unnecessary

Bullshit it is unnecessary. We need #4
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taco on February 26, 2009, 08:01:12 pm
GREAT JOB
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on February 26, 2009, 08:35:46 pm
I think we've confirmed that #4 is Top Ten Blank Spaces. It doesn't even require visible numbering, those are blank spaces too!
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 14, 2009, 10:30:40 pm
Okay so I don't know whether this was doug/genus's plan all along, but they... haven't reported for work.

And, well, if you want work done, you've got to do it yourself. In this vein, I present the Top Ten RPG and I promised we'd never do...

TSC's Top Ten Failures!

RPG has the first one pretty much ready and it'll be posted straight after this.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on April 14, 2009, 10:30:54 pm
ITS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN

Mike and I are once again taking the reigns of the biannually-entertaining-tsc-for-10-days-business.

This time its Top Ten Failures, and at #10 is no less than doug and genus!

So doug and genus, why you ask? Well right about now they're supposed to be doing they're own biannual top ten, go figure! And thusly this places them at the bottom (or should that be at the top?) of this gigantic sack of fail.


#10 doug and genus
#9
#8
#7
#6
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 14, 2009, 10:34:45 pm
inb4 mo fails twice (remember when AD got his password?)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 15, 2009, 08:17:19 am
Top Ten Failures eh.. :o
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 15, 2009, 08:50:19 am
Werey, you're bound to be in it. :D
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 15, 2009, 09:39:18 am
Lol not really. The only fail ibve had is with typos :(
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 15, 2009, 11:07:36 am
Lol not really. The only fail ibve had is with typos :(

I still can't beleive that you typo here and not fix it... Well I know RingRush is on that list for sure
Title: Re: Epic 3 month bump
Post by: Eis Makai on April 15, 2009, 11:46:51 am
Get #4 done already, dammit.
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Title: Re: Epic 3 month bump
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 15, 2009, 11:48:53 am
(Gigantic mess of quotes here)
Banned for stupidity. (I wish.)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 15, 2009, 12:20:00 pm
:o
Title: Re: Epic 3 month bump
Post by: Eis Makai on April 15, 2009, 12:20:53 pm
(Gigantic mess of quotes here)
Banned for stupidity. (I wish.)
Ignore it and just walk away. Just walk away. Forget it. Forget you ever met it. Forget you ever even saw it. Forget you even thought about seeing it.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 15, 2009, 11:33:53 pm
SURPRISE

ME AGAIN


And at #9 iiiisssssss......















ANDY!

Thats right Andy, you earn #9 on TSC's Top Ten Failure's for all your claims of taking SA2B and then never actually doing it.

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8
#7
#6
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1

Mikes doing #8 I think >_>
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 16, 2009, 07:09:16 am
Thats good. Theres no possible way for me to be in it now :D
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: EngiNerd on April 16, 2009, 09:11:37 am
Sorry, but I must ask....
Andy = osg?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Cream147 on April 16, 2009, 09:13:36 am
I've just noticed recently I made it into a previous Top 10 lol. Ok, so it was basically for making a comment that says 'I suck' in a nicer way, but still...I think it was number 3 or something so I own...may as well check

EDIT:
Quote from: douglas
3. Cream147 - Sonic Adventure 2 - Prison Lane Mission 1 - This site would not run without average runs like this and average players like me
Cream, that is so true.  We love you very much, as we do everyone who takes part in our grand adventure.  Everyone is important, everyone is special, everyone contributes.
But, don't think that this excuses you from the mocking that everyone else has to tolerate. On to my acid barbs! You suck.

Ah there we go lol
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 16, 2009, 09:17:03 am
My turn!

#8: Minus

Yeah, I know, most of you are thinking WTF HE SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN THIS FOR FAILING AT RISK! Well I don't care about Risk ok.

More importantly, after being here for ages, he still doesn't know jupi is female. CONCLUSIVE PROOF:

[23:07:51] <Minus> First, superjupi is awesome, everyone give him a round of applause.
[23:07:57] * Minus claps hands vigorously
[23:08:02] * Firstkirbyever claps once

(And neither does FKE, but that's another story. Possibly later in the top ten!)

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7
#6
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 16, 2009, 10:06:50 am
Sorry, but I must ask....
Andy = osg?

Worthy of "number 8 *burps*"
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: magnum12 on April 16, 2009, 06:11:18 pm
S&A or egg for #1. I say next time should be for top 10 snarkers.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: SonicAD on April 16, 2009, 07:18:25 pm
Thats good. Theres no possible way for me to be in it now :D

No, 10 is the one on the list that fails LEAST. There's still plenty of time for you!
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Aitamen on April 16, 2009, 08:16:32 pm
Thats good. Theres no possible way for me to be in it now :D

No, 10 is the one on the list that fails LEAST. There's still plenty of time for you!

or you...
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 16, 2009, 08:30:52 pm
Thats good. Theres no possible way for me to be in it now :D

No, 10 is the one on the list that fails LEAST. There's still plenty of time for you!

or you...

Or you...
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: ieatatsonic on April 16, 2009, 09:56:31 pm
Thats good. Theres no possible way for me to be in it now :D

No, 10 is the one on the list that fails LEAST. There's still plenty of time for you!

or you...

Or you...

or me...
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: oldskoolgamer101 on April 17, 2009, 01:17:01 am
Least I will be remembered for something now...>_>
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 17, 2009, 07:23:55 am
But SonicAD i dont fail that much :o
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Cream147 on April 17, 2009, 10:14:26 am
But SonicAD i dont fail that much :o

Well that's for RPG and Mike to decide no?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 17, 2009, 10:38:36 am
true <_<
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Muzozavr on April 17, 2009, 04:25:14 pm
Let me just declare myself the #1 failure of TSC because I can't play and be done with it.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Cream147 on April 17, 2009, 06:02:05 pm
Let me just declare myself the #1 failure of TSC because I can't play and be done with it.

Just a quick glance at your stats tells me there are people who fail plenty more than you!
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 17, 2009, 09:25:39 pm
Stealing a spot because this is deserving!

#7 on the failure list is......me!*

*At Cult of Personality

Some info! I FC'd CoP Solo in one try earlier in practice

So I take it to a real run

Solo! FC.
Start Soloing! FC.
Keep Soloing! FC.
1000 note streak clocks.
Completely misses the last 3 notes of the YO trill in Dont Stop Soloing!

I was in disbelief at my utter fail for at least 15 minutes.

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality
#6
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: fastnaturedude on April 17, 2009, 09:28:07 pm
I should be #1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Miles9999 on April 17, 2009, 10:26:19 pm
So I'm guessing "RPG in general" will be higher up on the list.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 17, 2009, 10:29:24 pm
^

WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF #7 IS THAT?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Thorn on April 17, 2009, 10:39:07 pm
Number 1 on this list better be "This Top 10" for being short and a total asspull. :(
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 17, 2009, 10:39:56 pm
Number 1 on this list better be "This Top 10" for being short and a total asspull. :(

Seconded!
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: fastnaturedude on April 18, 2009, 01:06:00 am
If I am not #1 on this list I will be very disappointed with the failure selection that TSC does. :(/me dies of sheer pessimism and low self-esteem
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Donna on April 18, 2009, 02:59:49 am
I don't think I should be #1, per se, but I'll be shocked and elated if I'm not on the list. :3
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 18, 2009, 07:08:45 am
IMO kitsune shouldnt be on the list :o
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 18, 2009, 09:55:42 am
#6 is... Kitsune!

Because he seems to think that everyone's forgotten who he was. Yes, that semi-respectable member of TSC with the crappy recolour as his avatar was once the mightiest spammer this site has ever seen... no, not RPG, formarfan.

Did that sound as stupid to you as it did in my head? Yeah, I thought so. I mean, Kitsune, semi-respectable? What a laugh!

I ought to be #5 for even posting it.

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG
#6  Kitsune
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 18, 2009, 09:59:00 am
Consider it done
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Cream147 on April 18, 2009, 10:57:10 am
#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG
#6  Kitsune
#5
#4
#3
#2
#1

I notice you removed "@Cult of personality" from RPG on this list.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 18, 2009, 11:06:28 am
Wow kitsune actually is in the list :o
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 18, 2009, 02:11:03 pm
PS: #1 has to be RingRush. Where else would we have come up with the famous line "RR fails"?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 18, 2009, 03:20:50 pm
PS: #1 has to be RingRush. Where else would we have come up with the famous line "RR fails"?

Yeah i was thinking that.. Gotta think of who else will fill in the other 5 spots :o
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: fastnaturedude on April 18, 2009, 09:11:05 pm
I think you could fill 2, Werey
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 19, 2009, 07:14:59 am
lolwut
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 19, 2009, 07:56:11 am
You guys should just be saying "+1 post" instead. One liners just show how much fail you guys are (nearly all your posts are one liners Werey).

Also how long until the next one gets posted?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: werster on April 19, 2009, 08:00:26 am
Oh wow, you guys think there are 5 people who fail more than kitsune? I'm sorry, but you're mistaken.

However, I shall predict the top 5! (This is so none of them appear on the list :D)

Clearly RR will be there. JDGA sure deserves to be there, but he is tasmanian...I'm not sure he qualifies as a person. Hmm, there's S&A, of course werey, and the other 2 options are, gerbilsoft and myself.

And of course Cybrax. (Yeah, I'm awesome at counting.)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 19, 2009, 09:11:10 am
yeah wersters list sounds about right.. Ofc RR has to be first or atleast seconds..
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 19, 2009, 09:41:30 am
+1

werster has good prediction skills. 5 of his 7 should be in the top 5. Also typing on the psp is lame Q_Q
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 19, 2009, 10:43:58 am
Lol when the hell did i post +1

and Werster should be number 3 IMO
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 19, 2009, 07:52:22 pm
Time for another exciting installment!

As we delve deeper into the sack of fail it is almost fitting that this next person should begin the decline into the top 5!~

Who is it you ask? Well I completely forgot who #5 was supposed to be so Im going to wing it and throw mike onto this list!

Anyone who's been here and with an IQ score into double digits is well aware that mike and I have a history of a) being awesome b) being excellent friends and c) having a rivalry on the TSC charts before we both stopped caring

However it may not be so wide known, probably as it was 2/3 years ago, thats mike has never managed to beat me a in a race for a championship! SA2B, SADX, SPA and Sonic Drift all name a few of the game in which we both competed for the championship and i emerged the victor.

Wahaha.

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality
#6  Kitsune
#5  Mike
#4
#3
#2
#1

WHAT NOW BITCHES
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 19, 2009, 09:02:53 pm
You should never do a Top Ten list again. You two should be tied 1st.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Cream147 on April 20, 2009, 11:06:27 am
Yeah, no offense...actually, yes, offense, but this list hasn't been the greatest in history. I mean come on, just making up a number 5 because you 'forgot' who it was meant to be? I suppose it's better than having none though.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: werster on April 20, 2009, 11:09:13 am
I think the whole point is that it -is- really sloppy. And seriously they had what, 1 day to start doing this list? And remember, both of them are on the list of fail, they clearly aren't the brightest bunch :(
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 20, 2009, 08:07:56 pm
I suppose it's better than having none though.

*cough*DOUGANDGENUS*cough*

Anyway, #4 is eredani, for making the following statement:

Quote from: eredani, paraphrased
I will be #1 sitewide by the end of the year

and then doing absolutely nothing. If you thought this was an asspull, I rank that far worse.

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality
#6  Kitsune
#5  Mike
#4  eredani
#3
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 21, 2009, 03:04:13 am
Lulz
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Eis Makai on April 21, 2009, 10:12:19 am
Sonicandamy and cake could take the 3rd and 2nd. SnA was great at getting here somehow without noticing he was here. cake had flamed people in one topic he made because he was b&. So IMHO that's what I believe.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: fastnaturedude on April 21, 2009, 09:20:06 pm
Then I somehow claim #1 as well as #6.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 22, 2009, 03:30:32 am
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.

#3 is Werey! The master of licking balls and raping cats. Among other assorted typos. Or so he wants us to believe.

Having said that, it turns out he's actually not a bad player, which puts him better than the next entry...

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality
#6  Kitsune
#5  Mike
#4  eredani
#3  Werey
#2
#1
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: douglas on April 22, 2009, 03:42:14 am
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.

#3 is Werey! The master of licking balls and raping cats. Among other assorted typos. Or so he wants us to believe.

Having said that, it turns out he's actually not a bad player, which puts him better than the next entry...
Next entry is RPG again confirmed
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 22, 2009, 03:49:58 am
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.

#3 is Werey! The master of licking balls and raping cats. Among other assorted typos. Or so he wants us to believe.

Having said that, it turns out he's actually not a bad player, which puts him better than the next entry...
Next entry is RPG again confirmed

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2715/douglasfail.png) (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=douglasfail.png)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 22, 2009, 04:00:40 am
Using Chaos Angel = ban
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Donna on April 22, 2009, 05:21:07 am
Using Chaos Angel = ban

(http://www.wackypackages.org/stickers/4th_2006/realproducts/ban.jpg)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Eis Makai on April 22, 2009, 09:57:46 am
I like Chaos Angel as a stage but not as a bgskin. If only we had new ones. I'd like to see a Dragon Road skin. Or Radical Highway or Speed Highway. Or Some from the Megaman series or LoZ series.

For #2 spot is definitely S&A no doubt or Silvermetal.

For #1: One of the Architects of the Matrix guys should get this spot for funnies.

Donna: Ban-Deodorant lol. Clean off the BO of the site.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 22, 2009, 10:02:35 am
I like Chaos Angel as a stage but not as a bgskin. If only we had new ones. I'd like to see a Dragon Road skin. Or Radical Highway or Speed Highway. Or Some from the Megaman series or LoZ series.

For #2 spot is definitely S&A no doubt or Silvermetal.

For #1: One of the Architects of the Matrix guys should get this spot for funnies.

Donna: Ban-Deodorant lol. Clean off the BO of the site.

I say Wily 1 from M2/MM9 as a skin.

Also Its going to be Gerbil and maybe Dhaos... If not it might be me D:
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Werey on April 22, 2009, 10:51:20 am
Heh wow :O
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 23, 2009, 03:04:48 am
#2 is... RingRush! The TSCer who is so fail, he even has a bot feature named after him: Paraxade implemented !rrfails into his bot Peroxide some time ago.

Some examples of fail from the past:
1) <Groudon> fail | <RingRush> I will, but first I need to take a shower and than I need to do 1 TA I've wanted to do for a while
2) <RingRush> Well if you hate SA2(B) e-mail me your dreamcast
3) <RingRush> er, ring rush fails

Who could possibly be more fail than that? Only time will tell!

#10 doug and genus
#9  Andy
#8  Minus
#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality
#6  Kitsune
#5  Mike
#4  eredani
#3  Werey
#2  RingRush
#1  ???
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 23, 2009, 01:03:19 pm
I have a bad feeling about this...
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: ieatatsonic on April 23, 2009, 06:58:35 pm
If #1 isn't SnA, it could be eggmanland. That topic had as much win as the bus topic.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Miles9999 on April 23, 2009, 07:40:06 pm
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.
...
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: flyby on April 23, 2009, 07:42:16 pm
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.
...

... indeed
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 23, 2009, 09:12:49 pm
Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles.
...

... indeed

.../me fortifies himself in the Pentagon
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: General Throatstomper on April 23, 2009, 09:14:06 pm
You can't accuse douglas and I of failure because of our excellence; that's transparent envy. Our apathy should have been enough to clue you into our ambivalence regarding another top 10 list. Plus, we've made ten of these lists..what's your tally now? I stopped caring when the top 10's got boring.

Anyways, it seems we set the standard too high for any future installations...no matter what kind of list Mike and RPG could hobble together, it would always shadow our cultural monument. I'm sorry for producing something of quality that shames your milquetoast efforts. Perhaps one day we could teach you how to write humor compositions?

Also, they're probably putting Rolken as #1 to surprise everyone.

*zing*.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 23, 2009, 09:14:28 pm
YOU ALL FAIL AT HUMOUR

Speaking of, its time for the #1 failure on TSC!

Coming up after this post because I want people to see the notification in IRC and leap expectantly into the topic.

Durr hurr.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 23, 2009, 09:22:24 pm
So, it's been a (not) long journey, slowly delving deeper and deeper into the TSC Sack of Fail (TM).

First, lets have a quick recap of the 9 other contestants thus far and a brief reminder of why their names were pulled out of the Sack.

#10 doug and genus - For failing at making a Top Ten instead of this one.

#9  Andy - For talking the talk and never walking the walk.

#8  Minus - For not knowing that Jupi was a girl.

#7  RPG @ Cult of Personality - Self explanatory.

#6  Kitsune - For thinking we all didn't realise he was really one of the Four Noobs of the Apocalypse.

#5  Mike - For failing at beating me*

#4  eredani - See: Andy

#3  Werey - Hilarious (un)intentional typo's.

#2  RingRush - I don't think this needs further explantion.

#1  ???...


And so, brace yourselves as we name and shame TSC's Greatest Piece of Fail, fresh from the sack.

A piece of fail so hard that if you were to look up the word "fail" in the dictionary, there picture would be gleefully clad next to the word itself.

AND THE WINNER IS....

...


...


...


...

You.


That's right, you. The TSCer. Or more accuractly, TSC as a collective. For even following this mockery of a Top Ten in the first place. And that's it for this Top Ten, mike and I will be doing another one in October for TSC's 6th birthday because doug and genus obviously couldn't handle the awesome.

Or is it?...


Nope! Because right after this short lengthy commercial break, mike will be along for the Honourable Mentions and Closing Ceremonies, thank you ladies and gentlemen, and good night.~
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 23, 2009, 09:27:12 pm
Apr 23 17:04:52 <mike89>   ps, #2 up
Apr 23 17:04:54 <Umbreon>   oh
Apr 23 17:04:55 <mike89>   no points for guessing who
Apr 23 17:05:01 <Umbreon>   clearly it's groudon
Apr 23 17:05:04 <mike89>   aaaand my work here is done
Apr 23 17:05:08 *   mike89 (Mike@SCnet-267A8151.tpgi.com.au) has left #sonicunleashed (Leaving)
Apr 23 17:05:58 <No>   inb4 #1 = You
Apr 23 17:06:22 <Umbreon>   Top Ten Failures #1: Top Ten Failures
Apr 23 17:06:28 <Umbreon>   srsly
Apr 23 17:07:09 <Miles>   I'll be very disappointed if it isn't.
Apr 23 17:07:22 <Umbreon>   that's the only way rr wouldn't be #1
Apr 23 17:08:35 <Miles>   "Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles."
Apr 23 17:08:37 <Miles>   ...
Apr 23 17:10:00 <No>   What does that even mean?
Apr 23 17:14:49 <werster>   Miles was going to be #3 clearly



Fuck you RPG..seriously.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Aitamen on April 23, 2009, 10:13:01 pm
Apr 23 17:04:52 <mike89>   ps, #2 up
Apr 23 17:04:54 <Umbreon>   oh
Apr 23 17:04:55 <mike89>   no points for guessing who
Apr 23 17:05:01 <Umbreon>   clearly it's groudon
Apr 23 17:05:04 <mike89>   aaaand my work here is done
Apr 23 17:05:08 *   mike89 (Mike@SCnet-267A8151.tpgi.com.au) has left #sonicunleashed (Leaving)
Apr 23 17:05:58 <No>   inb4 #1 = You
Apr 23 17:06:22 <Umbreon>   Top Ten Failures #1: Top Ten Failures
Apr 23 17:06:28 <Umbreon>   srsly
Apr 23 17:07:09 <Miles>   I'll be very disappointed if it isn't.
Apr 23 17:07:22 <Umbreon>   that's the only way rr wouldn't be #1
Apr 23 17:08:35 <Miles>   "Sorry folks, #3 was delayed while I found a late substitute for Miles."
Apr 23 17:08:37 <Miles>   ...
Apr 23 17:10:00 <No>   What does that even mean?
Apr 23 17:14:49 <werster>   Miles was going to be #3 clearly



Fuck you RPG..seriously.

That, sir, is win.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 23, 2009, 10:14:32 pm
I called it after #2 was posted
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 23, 2009, 11:30:46 pm
Awfully long commercial break. I thought I'd be the top failure though. I'm glad I'm not on there specifically though.
/me watches honorable mention pop up
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: yse on April 24, 2009, 04:25:02 am
And so ends the longest commercial break in history.

Honourable mention time!

Spinballwizard - Well, you asked for it. *rimshot*

Cruizer - for having a furry girlfriend. Come on, man, you can do better... er... <_< >_> Also for finishing last in the Marathon after being overtaken at the end by someone that started 62 minutes late >_>

RPG (yes, again) - For not showing up to his own event on time. Also for not responding to my (non-existent) calls >:O

Miles - For throwing a tantrum about the agreed-in-advance start time for the aforementioned race... that still hasn't stopped.

donnashowl - This one needs a bit of context. While RPG and I were brainstorming, Donna's name came up, to which RPG responded thusly:

<Frostymcdoom> i read donna's post and her fanfic and plot analysis crap makes me think she should get a spot but she is hot so I am willing to ignore that.

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 24, 2009, 05:05:37 am
Hey fu, at least I started it and still didn't finish in last
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 24, 2009, 05:32:31 am
Cruizer - for having a furry girlfriend. Come on, man, you can do better... er... <_< >_> Also for finishing last in the Marathon after being overtaken at the end by someone that started 62 minutes late >_>

Hey at least i finished unlike 20 something other people. And it should be noted its a furry x furry relationship >_>
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Bilan on April 24, 2009, 08:28:04 am
You do raise a good point there
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 24, 2009, 10:28:18 am
Thanks for the mention though :D
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Donna on April 25, 2009, 02:19:05 pm
Right where I belong :D
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 26, 2009, 03:47:41 am
And it should be noted its a furry x furry relationship >_>
OK, doug/genus and cruizer officially switch places.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: douglas on April 26, 2009, 04:19:13 am
And it should be noted its a furry x furry relationship >_>
OK, doug/genus and cruizer officially switch places.
Why the FUCK would I want to be in a threesome with genus and a furry?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 26, 2009, 04:41:15 am
And it should be noted its a furry x furry relationship >_>
OK, doug/genus and cruizer officially switch places.
Why the FUCK would I want to be in a threesome with genus and a furry?

Because you know you want to.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 26, 2009, 11:56:08 am
Why the FUCK would I want to be in a threesome with genus and a furry?
I meant in top ten position, noob. Clearly cruizer now deserves it more than you two do.
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Aitamen on April 27, 2009, 04:06:03 am
Furry love...  for some reason, it seems so fitting...

I'm honestly surprised RPG isn't up there again, and that I'm not there...

And why isn't S&A there?
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Luxray on April 27, 2009, 12:53:58 pm
Furry love...  for some reason, it seems so fitting...

I'm honestly surprised RPG isn't up there again, and that I'm not there...

And why isn't S&A there?

The top ten noobs have already been posted. This list is the top 10 failures. You -deserved- to be the number 1 failure for not noticing this. Fitting isn't it?   
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: Aitamen on April 28, 2009, 06:31:35 am
I did notice such a thing.  However, S&A fails harder than anyone here...

and honestly, he's one of the worst trolls ever!

(And I came here from GameFAQs, where the trolls not only breed and evolve, but also conduct experimentation)
Title: Re: TSC's Top Ten Failures
Post by: EngiNerd on April 29, 2009, 04:21:24 pm
And it should be noted its a furry x furry relationship >_>
OK, doug/genus and cruizer officially switch places.
Why the $%^& would I want to be in a threesome with genus and a furry?
And douglas wins again.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Rayku on June 04, 2009, 12:47:20 am
The first page of this thread still makes me smile :)

<3 you guys.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 11, 2009, 01:10:02 pm
So its almost that time of year again..are doug and genus going to deliver something this time? Or do we have to call on mike and RPG to do it again?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 11, 2009, 01:12:17 pm
So its almost that time of year again..are doug and genus going to deliver something this time? Or do we have to call on mike and RPG to do it again?

Resounding no from and mike!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flying fox on October 12, 2009, 11:07:49 am
So its almost that time of year again..are doug and genus going to deliver something this time? Or do we have to call on mike and RPG to do it again?

Resounding no from and mike!

Can't someone else take over? You guys were so good at it. Please keep this going or I'll cry :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 12, 2009, 11:08:51 am
So its almost that time of year again..are doug and genus going to deliver something this time? Or do we have to call on mike and RPG to do it again?

Resounding no from and mike!

Can't someone else take over? You guys were so good at it. Please keep this going or I'll cry :(

Genus and doug do it with epic proportions. You should recall the one done last year.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 13, 2009, 11:25:32 pm
And then you should recall their fail 6 months later!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 14, 2009, 12:48:59 am
And then you should recall their fail 6 months later!

All 4 of you failed. >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 14, 2009, 05:08:12 pm
Fine then.

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #10 - GROW (KC) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/KC_up.gif)

Hitting the Grow box makes you big! Like Big the Cat! That's bad. But without a fishing rod or a mute frog to talk to! Sure, you may have a crocodile to talk to, but not a frog. So I'll allow it. Plus getting big makes it easier to get inside the walls (http://tasvideos.org/542M.html) and isn't that much better than fishing could ever be?

I wonder what Eggman is thinking after Charmy hits a Grow and he now finds himself being chased by a giant bee. Probably just something like "I really should make a better Buzz Bomber."
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 15, 2009, 04:08:27 am
O.o

Um...who's SM's partner in fail crime?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2009, 04:12:10 am
Codegirl of course!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: CodeGirl on October 15, 2009, 04:36:41 pm
How did you guess?

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #9: BOMB (KC, SA, SA2) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/KC_bomb.gif)

This item box started out with a fairly mundane purpose in 1995: hit it and you turn into Bomb, the bomb. Wait a minute, Bomb was a terrible character. So you didn't want to hit that. Maybe if you were partnered with Charmy and your partner was flying you all around the stage, you would want to trick him or her into hitting Bomb so that you could lead the charge for once without having to threaten to hit A eleven or twelve times so that the team would be kicked out of the stage. Come to think of it, they had the swap monitor for that. So I guess this was just terrible.

This monitor got a much-needed improvement for the Adventure series, where instead of becoming Bomb, I guess you'd just summon Bomb instantaneously and have it blow up...or some other explanation. In any case, hitting Bomb in those games causes all nearby enemies to blow up! It's even useful for competition under an extremely narrow set of circumstances (Dry Lagoon 5 on GameCube, because the enemies it affects have bomb-proof armor on Dreamcast and even if they didn't, Dreamcast users can take an ever-so-slightly-faster route that doesn't involve having to randomly dig up an item with about 1% probability on the first try). But I guess that's why Bomb is only ninth on the list, instead of one of the higher spots you'll see in the coming days.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Crowbar on October 15, 2009, 06:11:20 pm
I wonder what Eggman is thinking after Charmy hits a Grow and he now finds himself being chased by a giant bee.

Giant bee.
You're lovely.
I ride you as my flying steed.
Bee.

I love to please
My giant bee,
By rubbing cheese into his knees.
Bee.

We fly so high
Above the trees
At quite a star
tling rate of speed.

Bee (Be-be-be-bee, Giant bee)
Giant Bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, Lovely)
Giant Bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, Giant bee)
Giant Bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, Lovely)

On colder days
he'll sometimes sneeze.
But even so I'll never
sieze my giant bee.

We fly so high
Above the trees
At quite a star
tling rate of speed.

After long flights
he's prone to wheeze.
But still I love to squeeze
My bee.
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, giant bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, giant bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, giant bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-bee, giant bee)
Giant bee.

Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee (Be-be-be-be-be-be-be-bee)
Giant bee.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: ieatatsonic on October 15, 2009, 06:38:14 pm
inb4 speed shoe
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on October 16, 2009, 10:52:12 am
inb4 speed shoe
Speed shoe is going to be #1 just due to DD.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: ieatatsonic on October 16, 2009, 04:03:32 pm
and SSS
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 16, 2009, 04:23:18 pm
TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #8: CHAOS EMERALD (STT) (wait why don't we have an image for this)
Hey, that's...a Chaos Emerald!

In a box even!

What could be better than that?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Selphos on October 17, 2009, 02:22:58 am
Clearly, seven other things.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 17, 2009, 11:41:59 pm
TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #7: 500 Pts (KC) (no image for this one either? What a disgrace!)

I mean, we actually have score charts on TSC so what's not to like about an item box that just boosts your score directly?

...Oh. The fact that you can only get one in a mode that isn't allowed in score runs. Oh well.

In that case I guess you can just think of the 10-ring box as a proxy for our favorite point-scoring box. After all, it's even more score--1000--if you can go the rest of the level without getting hit! And if you already have 255 rings, then its value doubles to 2000 points, and you just cash that in right away whether you stave off hits or not!

But when you do, just think of how much simpler it would have been to hit a box and score 500, no matter what.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: CodeGirl on October 18, 2009, 10:26:20 pm
As you may know if you've been around TSC's history, the site was founded on October 23, 2003. Naturally, these countdowns are timed so as to coincide with that anniversary.

What you probably don't know, is that five days prior to that event, the first jolts of electricity were being run through a newly assembled contraption, forty-eight by forty-three by twenty centimeters in size. Granted, nowadays such nascencies are commonplace, certainly more than just one per day, but this was one I would come to know quite well. This one would eventually go on to become...me.

Now that that's taken care of...

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #6: LIGHTNING SHIELD (S3, S&K, SR, SA, Sv, and just about everything since) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/S3_lightning.gif)

Isn't electricity great?

The 1994 incarnation of this item box was especially strong, staving off one contact hit and any number of projectile or electricity hits, and until then it brought in any and all nearby rings--and in the case you were playing as Sonic, you could also get a midair jump to get to high places easily! What a beating.

Projectiles no longer "bounce off" of shields in more recent games that use this item, and the double-jump action provided by the shield is likewise gone. Still, bringing in swaths of rings quickly is a capability not to be underestimated, particularly on ring charts and timed "collect rings" objectives such as SA2/B mission 2s. For that it earns a spot.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: CodeGirl on October 22, 2009, 04:26:59 pm
The finish line is in sight! Let's get there at warp speed!

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #5: CLOCK (SCD) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/SCD_clock.gif)

Okay, so in levels this doesn't do much, just freezes the scenery. Not to mention there's only one in the game, it requires a trick to reach, and after reaching it you can't complete the level. But in the special stages, it really shines...giving you 30 FREE SECONDS! Too bad it can't become a factor until your time already sucks. So much potential, so little opportunity.

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #4: TELEPORT (S2) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/S2_switch.gif)

Because what's better than potentially going from near the start of the level, to the end, in one fell swoop?

Maybe throwing your opponent onto spikes? Because the teleport can do that too, depending on where you hit it!

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #3: 100 RINGS (Riders, SR:ZG) (oh wait we don't have images for this game do we)

10 rings? Bah. Even 20...too little. We demand our rings in packages of 100! Unfortunately, the only games with 100-ring boxes also lack ring charts, but you can dream.

TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #2: SPEED SHOE (Pretty much everything) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/S3_speed_shoes.gif)

Simply the penultimate icon of what TSC is all about.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: ieatatsonic on October 22, 2009, 07:41:44 pm
It's #2!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 23, 2009, 01:40:24 am
This Top Tens needs more speculation.

I speculate that #1 will be (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/KC_combi_ring.gif) ok.

EDIT: Also the ring-attracting shields in the newer games are Magnetic, not Lightning. >:O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: douglas on October 23, 2009, 02:40:13 am
inb4 goggles doing nothing
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: SadisticMystic on October 23, 2009, 06:35:56 pm
As has become tradition at this point, first the Honorable Mentions:
GOGGLES (S1) - They do nothing. Needless to say, that's better than a few of the items out there.
EGGMAN (S2/S3/S&K) - Not so much on the S3/S&K side of things (though even there it has at least one accessibility purpose, for Knuckles in Lava Reef 2), but in S2 (where it's a 2P-only item) it's better than Goggles were in S1 since at least you get the item box point and a chance to inflate your Total Ring stat.
FLAME SHIELD (S3/S&K/S3D) - Useful for picking fights with Alondite, or whomever the punching bag of the month may be.
SHRINK (KC) - Frustrating yakuzas the world over since at least August 2008, and probably even earlier.

And the dishonorable mentions:
BLANK ITEM BOX (S1/S3/S&K/SA2(B)) - what a waste of space and material
LEAD SHOE (S3) - There are detrimental items that have their esoteric good points, and then there's the Lead Shoe. Simply terrible.
WETFLAME (S1WTFLAME) - You just lost The Game.
RANDOM RING (SA(DX)/SA2B/SH/a bunch of Advance and Rush games and maybe more I overlooked) - Really. No item box has ever garnered more hate from TSC over the years.

And finally, our feature presentation.
TOP TEN ITEM BOXES #1: S (SCD/S3/S&K) (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/Themes/SonicCenter/images/post/S3_super_sonic.gif)

What could be a better insignia of TSC than speed? Overall superiority. Enough said.

See you back here in 173 days when two more contestants will try their hand at Building a Crappy List! How much more room can there be to do worse?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on March 06, 2010, 11:29:12 pm
SURPRISE POST POSSIBLY HINTING TOWARDS THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW TOP TEN!?!?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on March 06, 2010, 11:32:33 pm
I say we get back to the roots of the Top Tens and have something like the "Top Ten Best Records" or something.

Maybe on day 1 we put the 10th best time, ring, score, boss (etc) records? And then day 2 its 9th and so on in that fashion.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Combo on March 07, 2010, 08:57:35 pm
I say we get back to the roots of the Top Tens and have something like the "Top Ten Best Records" or something.

Maybe on day 1 we put the 10th best time, ring, score, boss (etc) records? And then day 2 its 9th and so on in that fashion.

I missed those. :'(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Ring Rush on March 07, 2010, 09:00:04 pm
Maybe on day 1 we put the 10th best time, ring, score, boss (etc) records? And then day 2 its 9th and so on in that fashion. <-- A Ring Chain record per day? I'm guaranteed to win at least 6 of those...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on March 07, 2010, 09:02:27 pm
Silly RR, ring chains are for kids.

But seriously I wouldn't be surprised if those were ignored or counted in the rings section <_<

With that said I like Cruizer's idea.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flying fox on March 07, 2010, 09:05:20 pm
Yeah me too. I might actually have a -slight- chance of being mentioned on this topic this time :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on March 08, 2010, 02:12:40 am
Maybe on day 1 we put the 10th best time, ring, score, boss (etc) records? And then day 2 its 9th and so on in that fashion. <-- A Ring Chain record per day? I'm guaranteed to win at least 6 of those...

Firstly learn2quote

Secondly, there's the obvious Times/Rings/Scores/Bosses records to look at. But would we also include special/time attack/extra race/ring chains? Or would this just be changed to the best records for the 35 games TSC cover?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 01, 2010, 01:40:25 am
I hear it's almost Top Tens time again. Time for speculation.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Telnaior on April 01, 2010, 02:45:33 am
Speculation is for April Fools~
But seriously, it's probably just some elaborate April Fool's day scheme...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on April 01, 2010, 07:56:15 pm
Hah! That's a good one Zeph. I almost thought there'd be Top Tens this time.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 01, 2010, 09:08:56 pm
As i said earlier, why not get top tens back to its roots and talk about tsc's competition?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 17, 2010, 10:23:06 pm
I assume no one's doing Top Tens this time? After all, I believe up through #7 should have been revealed by now.

I have a couple of ideas but would rather not do a rushed job. But if no one else is going to do it...
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on April 18, 2010, 07:01:59 pm
Just hurry up and give me New Kid on the Block because I finally decided to put effort into S3 this past year.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 20, 2010, 02:57:20 am
Okay, it's that time again. Actually it's a fair bit past that time but no one seems to care, so let's begin!

Top Ten TSC Emoticons! Presented by Zeph and flyby!

You only wish you'd have thought of something as awesome as that. And no, we're not using that list on the Chat Stats (http://www.soniccenter.org/pisg/pisg-soniccenter.html) page because it's both inaccurate and missing a lot of emotes, not to mention it doesn't take into account the people on the forum (not that that had a major impact on our choices anyway...). And if you think you know which ones will make the list you are WRONG ok.
>:O!!!

Since we're starting late flyby and I will be posting a total of 3 emotes every day, with #1 being revealed on the 23rd. I'll be posting #10 later today while flyby will be revealing #9 and #8.

Speculation time gogogo
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 20, 2010, 02:59:17 am
I think I know what they will all be :O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 20, 2010, 03:02:35 am
:< :3 >_> <_< :D D:< >:O!!! ._. <:o X)

amirite?

EDIT: 700 bitches!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: bertin on April 20, 2010, 03:04:31 am
:| and >:|
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: EngiNerd on April 20, 2010, 08:00:35 am
:3
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: oldskoolgamer101 on April 20, 2010, 08:08:21 am
2


It's a swan.

The swan should be #1.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Parax on April 20, 2010, 08:08:36 am
:3

:3

:3

:3!!!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Werey on April 20, 2010, 10:52:55 am
:| and the faec
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 20, 2010, 05:33:11 pm
:< :3 >_> <_< :D D:< >:O!!! ._. <:o X)

amirite?
WRONG.

Top Ten TSC Emoticon #10
8)


8) is an interesting emote; it is in many ways like :), but instead of regular eyes you have huge eyes. Or maybe they're glasses. Or possibly goggles, except we all know they do nothing so you're probably better off with :).

It had attained somewhat of a cult status here at TSC, with Rolken and Joshu using it often, and, from what I see in my old chat logs, SkyL, DsS, RPG, and even mike89 used 8) in conversation at times. With most its users no longer active in chat anymore, however, 8) has fallen into disuse for the most part; it is occasionally used, usually by DsS, but in general it's not something you see everyday anymore; in fact when flyby and I made our initial lists I had completely forgotten about it. However it was popular back in the day, and was the most often used emoticon of Rolken, TSC's former leader, no less! At least I think it was--doing a search of 8) in my old chat logs resulted in a lot of "<Rolken> 8)"; in any case Rolken is the person I associate with 8). Perhaps if it were still widely used it would be higher, but for now it is the #10 TSC emoticon.

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 ???
#8 ???
#7 ???
#6 ???
#5 ???
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

flyby's posting the next two later today so stay tuned!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on April 20, 2010, 05:37:02 pm
I approve of this top-tens
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 21, 2010, 01:52:53 am
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #9
:D


We are not an overly smiley bunch at TSC. I remember one day long ago where I tried to convince everyone to replace their :(s with :)s, and it lasted for about an hour, and TSC seemed like such a happy place! Otherwise, you see lots of :)s from FF, and that is about it.

But when we do smile, we like to make it pack a punch. No sissy :)s. It is the real deal. :Ds all the way. A quick look through logs, or just having -ever- been in chat, you will notice that this emoticon is used most by DsS, and hey, as champion of the site, and with such epic skills, being in a community where such skills are so highly appreciated, why should he be anything but happy!

So smile away the day :D. This emoticon is for you! And for everyone else who's happy! :D

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 ???
#7 ???
#6 ???
#5 ???
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

8 to come very soon!


Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 21, 2010, 01:55:13 am
I also approve of this top tens list.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 21, 2010, 02:36:43 am
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #8
<_< >_>

Not to be confused with its separate parts, <_< >_> is a highly specialized animal, and is vastly different from its constituent parts <_< and >_>. It is ironic in that it is at the same time sneaky, and blatantly not sneaky. It is not sneaky in that it boldly declares "I am being mischievous!", but just because you declare it to be so does not mean it cannot be occurring also.

It adds a bit of an edge, and should not be over-used, but it definitely adds something that cannot be gained by any other combination of keystrokes. Use it, and use it wisely.

Oct 18 22:12:38 <Zeph> well it's still fun to look at old quotes >_>
Oct 18 22:12:52 <flyby> i guess it could be <_<
Oct 18 22:13:03 <Zeph> in fact I should go and look at old #soniccenter logs to relive the past <_< >_>

Well played.


O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 ???
#6 ???
#5 ???
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 21, 2010, 06:24:08 am
:o #1 for sure. I mean it's not like it has its own titlebar or anything.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 21, 2010, 08:46:59 pm
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #7
:/


:/ is a strange emote; how one is able to make their mouth slant at such at angle is beyond me.

It is generally used to express disappointment or disapproval. At the very least, it applies a somewhat negative connotation or attitude to what you say. You're not happy, sad, or mad, you're just...bleh. :/ can also be used to express sympathy, in a sort of "man, that sucks" sort of way.

SonicAD explained :/ like this once:
[06:35:48] <SonicAD> yeah :/ is more of a "kinda eh" thing

Today it is still frequently used in the chatroom; you're bound to see it at least once a day; after all, life is full of disappointments, and Tikal disapproves. In particular, this emote often appears when the subject is related to competition, like when mentioning strats, or when TAing, SAing, RAing, etc. This is because many of us at TSC have set high standards for ourselves; we know what we are capable of, yet often we are unable to attain what we think we could. Hearing a familiar setback can also invoke the usage of :/.

For example:
[13:44:12] <Werey> Dontcha just hate it when you gert an awesone run you never had before then you fuck it up
[13:44:37] <Flyingfox> yes
[13:44:53] <Flyingfox> always happens to me :/

Werey's typos aside, this is a common occurrence.

Looking at (fairly) recent logs, Cruizer seems to be the most frequent user of :/ nowadays, though Strong Bad, FF, and DsS also use it quite often. In fact, I'm sure most if not all of the regulars in the chatroom have used it at least once, and I see it often in posts here in the forum. As such it is an emoticon almost all of us at TSC are familiar with. It is, however, only at #7 because much of its usage occurs when the discussion is competition-related, and many of us are now retired from competition, moving on with life because we are too busy with jobs and college or because we don't care so much for competing anymore. But that doesn't mean it's something we all can't relate to every once in a while.

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 ???
#5 ???
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

flyby's got the next three (though only two of them will be revealed today), so you won't be hearing from me for a while!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on April 21, 2010, 09:19:37 pm
I think sadface has to be #1

I hope I'm in here!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 21, 2010, 10:34:50 pm
:/

Really? I use it the most?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 22, 2010, 12:47:38 am
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #6
:3

Yep, that's right :3 is coming in at number 6. Either you love it or hate it, but there is no denying that :3 is a huge part of TSC history and culture. The cute little curvy mouth that no human mouth could ever hope to recreate, the :3 has a distinctly animal look to it (looks almost exactly like a cat mouth to me). And it expresses that feeling of appreciation and joy that is written all over a cat's face when they are purring.

People generally use this emoticon with reckless abandon or avoid it like the plague, because they do not want to give the wrong impression. But this was not always so. It used to be used on occasion just to express a distinct feeling, rather than make a statement about furryism, but the usage of :3 has narrowed as it has increasingly been associated with furryism. We are, after all, a site based around a bunch of furry creatures. In the old days, there were perhaps some who thought TSC was better because it somehow escaped the furry mentality, but perhaps it was really it was all in the closet. In celebration of openness and transparency, Yay for the days of open furries and :3s abounding!

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 ???
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 22, 2010, 02:37:07 am
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #5
:o

The :o has a very specific meaning at TSC that do not go much beyond the four sides of the window in which #soniccenter resides. Outside of that small space, the difference between :O and :o is barely recognizable, if it exists at all. But the TSC eye can see the deeper shades of meaning. An :O is an exclamation, an expression of excitement, while :o is a thoughtful kind of "oh" without saying oh. It is acknowledgement of a statement with mild assent. It can be a question - :o? meaning, keep talking, tell me more. It can be an answer :o. There is nothing more to be said on this. Or it can be a conversation itself.

:o
:o?
:o.

But mostly it is an expression of interest. It is a part of the culture of tsc, this tiny corner of the internet where it has meaning, and we are richer for it.

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 :o
#4 ???
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

(It should be noted that #4 and 5 are pretty much a tie, so don't get your panties in a bunch about :o being #5!)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 22, 2010, 08:56:19 am
(It should be noted that #4 and 5 are pretty much a tie, so don't get your panties in a bunch about :o being #5!)

Then if its a tie, why not put :o in #4?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 22, 2010, 11:52:59 am
Really? Because I already had the write-up for :o done. But either way, if it is a tie, you have to do one of them first >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on April 22, 2010, 02:33:26 pm
clearly, we have two #4s, and they clearly should've been posted together!

but I don't have to write this, so it's clear that I've no right to judge!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 22, 2010, 05:03:38 pm
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #4
X)

While Zephyr and I were talking about this, he said that he thinks of each emoticon representing sort of a class of emoticons, where X) would stand for other iterations such as XD, and I suppose Zeup's version with xD, or others who use x). And while these other ones are good, there is a reason we chose X) as the one called to represent this illustrious class of emoticons. There is something distinctly TSC in nature to X), at least in my mind. XD you see all over. It is extreme jubilation, finding something hilarious, so much so that you are laughing and cannot keep your eyes open. The X) is a bit more subdued though. It is chill. I am amused, I am smiling, but you were not so funny as to make me laugh.

The use of X) is very widespread too. There are no most common users, as it seems like most people come to use it at some point.

It should also be noted, and celebrated, that X) has gained such a high place at TSC. What this means is we have some pretty witty people around! They're making us laugh and smile! So keep on with your wit everyone, and we will all show our amusement with a chorus of X)s. This could also mean we just have a bunch of people amused with themselves, as most people use it at the end of their own lines, but at least someone thinks you're witty! X) (Yes I amuse myself)

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 :o
#4 X)
#3 ???
#2 ???
#1 ???

Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 23, 2010, 12:49:35 am
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #3
>:O

Now we're getting to the really good ones. >:O is one of my favourite emoticons, as those of you who frequent the chatroom know so well. In fact, I like it so much that made my own emoticon based on this emote, which I affectionately call The Faec™. But I'm not writing here to talk about The Faec™.(...yet.)

The TSC Glossary (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=1677.msg15883#msg15883) states that when one says ">:O" that what is being said is "Are you questioning my authority?", though this (obviously) only applies to one with power.

In other cases, it is a sign of great anger or distaste. The following is an excellent example:
[14:30:32] <Flyingfox> that's it I'm getting fucking pissed off now >:O

Adding multiple >:Os to a line augments the anger expression:
[23:22:09] <mike89> being good at SA2B is overrated
[23:22:24] <RPG> Just cause you were never champ mike!
[23:22:31] <mike89> >:O >:O

Clearly mike does not like it when we mention the fact that he has never held the SA2(B) championship, which naturally means I'll mention that mike, unlike myself, has never held the SA2(B) championship.

>:O should not be confused with similar emotes such as >:( (which is a milder expression of anger) or >:| (which is totally bertin/sylux). >:O is a type of anger in which you feel like yelling (unless I stop you >:O); hence your mouth is wide open rather than closed. In one sense, it can be like saying "screw you" without actually saying it.

Like with :O and :o, outside of the realm of TSC, it's not likely that people distinguish between >:O and >:o, but we at TSC know much better-->:O is a much more extreme form of anger than >:o, though sometimes it is exaggerated. Unlike with :o and :O, however, >:O is the more popular form of the angry emote, though >:o does see a lot of use also.

Like :/, >:O is often seen in subjects relating to competition. >:O is seen in more severe cases, such as when a player is already agitated and an unfavourable event occurs during their gameplay. This is when a mere :/ is not enough; the player is quite angry and will let others know it.

Note that when using >:O, others may respond in kind. I would post specific examples, but they would take up about 3 posts or so, so instead I will provide a short example here and provide this link (http://thefaec.net/text/angeryea.txt) if you wish to read further.
[19:47:14] <flyingfox> if I can get that, another record for me :)
[19:47:25] <Zeph> not if I stop you >:O
[19:47:35] <flyingfox> >:O

This is a very common emote here at TSC; between someone having bad luck in their gaming endeavors, me stopping you (>:O) or someone just having a bad day, you're going to see it A LOT.

As proof of how much of an angry people we are I post this excerpt from my chat logs:
[10:30:59] <Zephyr> so how are people these days
[10:31:27] <SonicAD> ANGRY >:O!!!
[10:32:10] <Zephyr> YEAAA >:O!!!
[10:32:30] <Quartz> Yeaaa >:o

So yeah, we are an angry people. SonicAD even says so!

Anyway, looking through the logs shows that...it takes forever to look through each line that contains >:O. In fact that's the main reason why this was posted so late. I'm pretty sure I'm the most frequent user of >:O, though FKE, FF, and Werey use it quite frequently as well, though FF is most likely to use it in response to me. Any regular to the chatroom has assuredly used it or another in its class at least once; anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and a fraud. >:O Also, I shall note again that SonicAD, our current leader, also uses this emote a lot, so that must certainly count for something!

While I'm talking about the >:O-class of emotes, the others in this class are basically the ones that start with >, like the ones I mentioned earlier (though not necessarily). I could go on and on about >:O, really; it is just so awesome. But I think this is getting a bit long, so I'll stop here, unless I stop me >:O

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 :o
#4 X)
#3 >:O
#2 ???
#1 ???

#2 is going to be up tomorrow instead of today because flyby and I want to make sure we both get our say in what is posted~ (I think it's better that way anyway so as not to make #1 obvious or some such.)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Zeupar on April 23, 2010, 04:24:22 am
When you announced this top ten, I thought it would suck. I'm glad I was wrong. :D
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: yse on April 23, 2010, 08:20:10 pm
Clearly mike does not like it when we mention the fact that he has never held the SA2(B) championship, which naturally means I'll mention that mike, unlike myself, has never held the SA2(B) championship.

>:O >:O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 23, 2010, 08:47:12 pm
>:O

Clearly The Faec™ is a completely separate entity anyways.

Faec™ and :( for top 2 now. >_>

Also I need to appear in chat more often. Never mind that I'm actually having a bit of a social life now. (HEAVEN FORBID!)

(Projected response: >:O)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Taillow on April 23, 2010, 09:19:19 pm
I demand that you remove that forgery of my line at once!  <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 23, 2010, 11:20:09 pm
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #2
>_>

Yes, >_> and its familiars are separate from <_< >_>. I should also note that this class of emotes only has one underscore, or a period. >__>, for example, is not included in this class.

It is an emote we are all familiar with: in fact, when discussing what to put here with flyby I joked that I should have just put something along the lines of ">_> is an emote we are all so familiar with. In fact I think I'll let it speak for itself:", and then add about 50 or 100 lines of <_< and >_>, and be done with it. Really, I think it speaks for itself, but I opted instead a more proper write-up.

For those of you who don't know what these emotes are supposed to be, shame on you! >:o And pay attention, Quartz! >_> They are what are commonly referred to as "shifty eyes". When translated into a "real life" discussion, you would avert your gaze when you use ">_>" or a similar emote.

When flyby and I were splitting up the write-ups for the Top Tens, deciding who would write about what, we were undecided about who would write this one. We both said there was so much both of us could say about it, so I suggested that we combine our ideas into one big write-up. However, when the time finally came to decide what to write about here, both of us were at a loss. How did this happen, after we both had said there was so much to write about earlier?

flyby said that "it has transcended it's (sic) original meaning." What used to be a simple emote for deviousness or shadiness has become so much more here at TSC. Indeed, as flyby put it, there are "so many shades of meaning" to >_> now (I don't think the pun was intended; in fact I completely overlooked it until I was proofreading this >_>). It is often an expression of sarcasm, its mere presence indicating that you are not actually (or at least not completely) serious about what you are saying or have said. It may cast suspicion on what you have said, making others aware that your intentions are not what would normally be assumed; thus they will often respond with the shifty eyes in the opposite direction. This differs from <_< >_> in that >_> is usually used with otherwise normal conversation that wouldn't seem suspicious if the emote weren't there. <_< >_>, therefore, is extraneous, since what you're saying is already suspicious. It's...there for the sake of being there; I can't think of any other way to put it.

>_> can also be used to point out another's incompetence or lack of noesis:
[00:47:12] <ShadowJacky> fuck
[00:47:19] <ShadowJacky> I've actually heard this before
[00:47:26] <Sylux> Yes
[00:47:31] <Sylux> that's why I said "You should know this"
[00:47:33] <Sylux> <_<
[00:47:41] <ShadowJacky> >_>

I'm almost certain that the >_>-class of emotes is the most widely used class of emotes at TSC. It is so common I can guarantee that when that the chatroom is active you will see it at least ten times an hour. It is that common. However...over the years, I think it's lost much of its meaning. It's sort of become a general use emote, an emote to use when you feel like using an emote. Nowadays I think everyone just seems to add >_> to their responses without really thinking about it. In fact both flyby and I can recall several times in chat where there were literally hundreds of consecutive >_> and/or <_< lines. You thought what I posted for >:O was long? That's nothing compared to the walls of shiftyeyes I have seen. I think that is the reason why flyby and I had much trouble thinking about what to say. It is an important part of our culture at TSC, but it is also one whose meaning we take for granted, like so many things in life. Its loss of meaning over the years, in my opinion, is what keeps it from taking the #1 spot.

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 :o
#4 X)
#3 >:O
#2 >_>
#1 ???

#1 is pretty obviousto me, at least but don't go anywhere just yet! #1 is coming up within the hour...hopefully.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 23, 2010, 11:59:49 pm
Top Ten TSC Emoticon #1
:(

I really don't know if anyone should be surprised that this is the #1 TSC Emoticon. In fact, both flyby and I had :( as #1 in our initial lists (We also both had >_> at #2. >:O was #4 in both our lists, though I'm sure glad it was brought up to #3!). It is such an important emoticon in TSC culture, and it makes it second appearance in a Top Tens (the first is #6 here (http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=947.msg39500#msg39500)).

As with >_>, flyby and I both stated that there was a lot to say about it, but when it got down to writing about it, we were both at a loss about what to put down. In fact the only things I was able to get out of flyby regarding :( was "I'd rather have a tiger :(" and "It's #1 because we are a depressed people." So unlike >_> where I was able to draw ideas from what flyby said, most of this I wrote on my own.

Like >_>, it is one that we are all only too familiar with. Sadness is, after all, a part of life, just like happiness, anger, and mischievousness.

Unlike >_>, however, we use it with the correct context: it is not wasted. When we use :( we are genuinely sad or otherwise unhappy, whether it's because someone beat our hard-earned record, or because we may have irritated someone when we didn't mean to, or perhaps because a relative or close friend is ill or dying. It may even be because CherryMay would rather have a tiger :(. There are many things which can invoke the usage of :(, much more than pretty much any other emote on this list.

The Chat Stats page (http://www.soniccenter.org/pisg/pisg-soniccenter.html) shows just how often we use :(, at least when GerbilEgg is in the chatroom. There are certainly many more uses that haven't been recorded, and as such I estimate that as of the time of this writing there are have been more than 50000 uses of :( over the past 15 months rather than the 46430 uses recorded by GerbilEgg. It is more than a simple emote, or even a fad or cult. It is even more than a catchphrase, a status shared by only one other emote. It is, I believe, the essence of TSC itself. Look back at #9, when flyby tried to have everyone replace their :(s with :)s. How long did that last? An hour! Actually I think it was even less than that! Even when we 'laugh' we often say "lol :(", which is sort of like, "I'm trying to laugh but I'm too sad." The way we associate ourselves with the essence of sadness is staggering. It is my firm belief that no other emote will ever envelop us in its essence the way :( has. I should also note that :( has frequently been used since even before I joined TSC in 2005, further exemplifying how in tune with sadness TSC has always been.

I think it goes without saying that, even though she isn't here often anymore, Cherry is the one that comes to mind when thinking of :(. Indeed, the Chat Stats page says that 18.1% of her lines contained :(. That's 1580 out of 8731 lines, and if you include the stats shown in the other Top Tens, she's said nearly 9500 lines with a :( over the past two and a quarter years, which is a lot of sadness. Even though she's not here much anymore, the essence of her favourite emoticon lives on in the rest of us. Really, does a day ever go by in which we don't see this special symbol which is the very essence of TSC itself?

O: TOP TEN :O

#10 8)
#9 :D
#8 <_< >_>
#7 :/
#6 :3
#5 :o
#4 X)
#3 >:O
#2 >_>
#1 :(

We're not done yet! Honourable mentions (and a dishonourable mention) coming up later!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 24, 2010, 12:37:57 am
I thought the first British spelling was in honor of Cherry, but really...when did you become British? <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on April 24, 2010, 03:32:12 am
Well, that was retarded.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 24, 2010, 10:00:49 pm
Excuse me?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on April 25, 2010, 02:42:16 am
@ the top ten smilies, not you.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: flyby on April 25, 2010, 12:36:02 pm
...Yeah I didn't think you were calling me retarded. <_<
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Spinballwizard on April 25, 2010, 01:10:52 pm
Don't call flyby's (and Zeph's) list retarded! :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on April 25, 2010, 09:26:43 pm
:(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on April 26, 2010, 01:21:35 am
Okay, time for Honourable Mentions! For these write-ups, the text from flyby has a slight red tint and the text from me has a slight blue tint. Color codes removed because people actually use the Chaos Angel and Classic Cerulean skins! :O

<
The party hat. Examples include <:D <:o <:) <:(, etc.
This is the emoticon that has the ability to be given and received!

Mar 05 11:45:32 <flyby> here have a party hat: <
Mar 05 11:45:50 <Eisman> <:D

Occasionally we have a party at TSC, and then it is time to put on a party hat!

Mar 06 12:46:09 <Zephyr> so now we're having a random party! <:D

Mar 31 16:57:11 <RingRush> congratulations
Mar 31 16:57:14 <Carlos> :o
Mar 31 16:57:15 <Carlos> you win
Mar 31 16:57:15 <RingRush> party hats everyone <:D
Mar 31 16:57:24 <Carlos> <:O
Mar 31 16:57:28 <RingRush> also old
Mar 31 16:57:30 <Carlos> <:O!!!
Mar 31 16:57:46 <RingRush> <:O!!!

Zeph notes: I'd also like to point out that we don't have enough parties in the chatroom so let's throw more okay people?!

D:
flyby was supposed to do this one but she suggested just putting a large D:. When I asked her to elaborate a bit she came up with this: "The shock, the horror, how could that just have happened! How could they just have said that? How could -I- just have said that! This and many more are the various and subtle meanings of D:" That's a bit better, though I'd like to add that to me D: seems to represent a sort of bummed attitude. Translated (roughly) into English D: means "onos/oh noes." I'd also like to note that you'll see it a lot when Quartz shoots Dhaos.

>_<
I'm mostly including this because the person I associate it with is SJ, maker of the Funniest Comments of TSC. Indeed, it has been mentioned several times in chat that we would like to hear SJ comment while he's playing for our own amusement. If you haven't already, I suggest reading my old compilation of SJ's comments (http://thefaec.net/text/sjcomment.txt) to see many of SJ's more amusing comments (that were made at the time of writing), as well as my personal top picks. While SJ is the most frequent user of >_<, it should be noted that others do use it too: other frequent users include DsS, FF, Achlys, and RR.

Some of my top picks for >_< include the following (go here (http://thefaec.net/text/arrrgggh.txt) for the full list):
[17:05:50] <ShadowJacky> omg, if I could kick my own ass, I would right now  >_<

[02:29:51] <ShadowJacky> wow, whats with all of the vids?
[02:30:06] <Zeph> ok fine SJ, no more vids ok >:(
[02:30:12] <ShadowJacky> NO
[02:30:19] <ShadowJacky> DAMMIT!
[02:30:26] <ShadowJacky> STOP THAT PK!
[02:30:27] <ShadowJacky> >_<

[19:15:38] <ShadowJacky> man I fail >_<

[01:54:02] <ShadowJacky> maybe I just suck >_<

[22:04:58] <flyby> this is what i said - In conclusion - meeting TSC folks is cool. Who will we meet next! Join us next time on Rolken & flyby: Wild Jungle.
[22:05:13] <ShadowJacky> will there be bloopers?
[22:05:15]  * ShadowJacky shit
[22:05:23] <ShadowJacky> *shot
[22:05:52] <ShadowJacky> who's idea was it to have "i" and "o" next to each other >_<
[22:06:40] <flyby> oh haha
[22:06:42] <flyby> i was like
[22:06:42] <flyby> what
[22:06:43] <flyby> lol
[22:06:48] <flyby> that is awesome sj

[14:31:51] <Spinballwizard> I don't remember the last time I game-overed in s3k >_>
[14:32:09] <Spinballwizard> I'm certain it's been years
[14:32:12] <ShadowJacky> probably because you gained a shot load of lives
[14:32:18] <ShadowJacky> *shit
[14:32:19] <ShadowJacky> >_<
[14:32:21] <DsS> lmao shot load

[16:58:23] <ShadowJacky> fuck this shit
[16:58:27] <ShadowJacky> love this game
[16:58:38] <ShadowJacky> but dammit does speedrunning ruin everything you love >_<

[22:20:08] <Koshi> Why's everyone think I have something to do with Yoshi >_<

[22:20:59] <Thorn> fuck the lot of you >_<

[17:31:46] <Minus> That song is waaay to seriously old to be referring to 69 like that.  >_<

[06:27:24] <FuzZerd> its because I used to be an idiot and thought 50 was a really good time >_<

[10:13:04] <flyingfox> god I'm dumb >_<

Yeah, I realise that list was a bit long but you have to admit they are so entertaining! Also I should note that I myself have never used it when irritated; all my lines that include >_< are either quotes or elements in a list.

O_o
I'm including this in here because I find it to be so amusing, and because it was #9 on flyby's initial list. It amuses me in that one of the person's eyes grows so comically (or does the other one shrink?) and that whenever I see it I mentally translate it into something along the lines of "what the...?!" Which is basically what the emote means, anyway; the person is weirded out by something. Unless both eyes are big, like O_O, which means, like, total awe or horror or something. o_o is also used on occasion, though it looks very strange to me because it looks like a zombie. Anyway I should note that these emotes tend to only amuse me when used by certain people, like SJ, FF, or mike. Don't ask me why, okay; it just does.

%^(
This is on here because it is probably the most unique TSC emote. According to my logs Upth used it first. I don't think it even became popular enough to become a fad, but most of us still remember it. As of this writing, the chat stats page has only 76 recorded uses of this emote over the last 16 months, so you know it hasn't been used much at all. I couldn't find many good lines with it so I'll post the best one I could find:

[23:38:49] <Stefan> this will be my !? replacement: %^(

A shame it doesn't see more use, see as how it's unique to TSC.


And now, our Dishonourable Mention:

>__________>
Perhaps the stupidest emoticon to ever exist, >__________> (and its friends of varying lengths) is pretty much just an admission that what you said was incredibly stupid. Of course, we all use it, because we all say lots of dumb things! But at least we'll admit it when it's true. And that's just what this emoticon is for. So go ahead and use it, and realize it is the stupidest emoticon out there, but be proud. Stupidity reigns!
Zeph notes: I should also note that a majority of its use comes from FKE, not that I'm implying anything. <_< >_>

Well, that's it for this iteration of the Top Tens! Hopefully someone will care enough to work on the Top Tens in October so we won't have to throw stuff together at the last minute!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on April 26, 2010, 02:12:56 am
Well, that's it for this iteration of the Top Tens! Hopefully someone will care enough to work on the Top Tens in October so we won't have to throw stuff together at the last minute!

I might begin to investigate that list idea i stated a while ago. I have an entire week to kickstart it.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: F-Man on April 26, 2010, 02:15:19 am
Sorry to be an ass but don't ever use colored text. Websites often change their design, and sometimes like this one does has many skins.

Zeph edit: removed the colour codes so the post is now readable on all skins.

Nice job on the top 10 smilies it was great but I won't be reading these honorable mentions cause I can't be assed to highlight them.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Groudon on April 26, 2010, 02:18:55 am
I'd also like to note that you'll see it a lot when Quartz shoots Dhaos.

Or when anyone shoots Dhaos.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on April 26, 2010, 06:19:51 am
I am sad my smiley wasn't up there...  it is very sad.

but not me!  I'm happy ^_^
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on April 26, 2010, 06:34:04 am
I approve.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: FuzZerd on April 27, 2010, 02:40:47 am
its funny that I got quoted for using an emoticon that I hardly ever use.  in fact I doubt I've used that more then 10 times in my life.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on September 29, 2010, 12:35:44 am
its funny that I got quoted for using an emoticon that I hardly ever use.  in fact I doubt I've used that more then 10 times in my life.
It doesn't matter how often you use it; it was a great quote! ;o

Anyway, top tens soon everyone. Who's doing it this time >:O
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on September 29, 2010, 09:43:06 am
I may have said i was doing it this time, but i can't. Uni work and all, blegh :U
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Aitamen on September 29, 2010, 11:35:00 am
I'd love to, but I don't wanna get banned for bashing people, and for some reason, I know I would.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on September 29, 2010, 11:36:25 am
Suggestion: Someone to do TSC's funniest moments or best moments, something nostalgic maybe?

EDIT: 800 POSTS MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on October 03, 2010, 04:03:24 am
so long as mike89 doesn't use autofire to get them sub-par spindashes and win.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 15, 2010, 09:36:41 am
I guess everyone's busy with Sonic 4 so I'll have to do this again. :v

Don't expect it to be good like last time's!
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on October 15, 2010, 10:34:01 am
GO GO GADGET ZEPH
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on October 20, 2010, 11:44:55 am
I bet you all thought I'd forgotten about this, didn't you? >:O

Well, prepare to be disappoint!

To celebrate TSC's 7th birthday, this time around I'm presenting to you:

TSC's Top Ten Records That Contain a 7

Yeah. Also I'm still looking for a partner to help me with judging. I asked Zeupar and I feel maybe that was a mistake... >_> I'd prefer someone who has competed in and/or has a vast amount of knowledge in most of the games, preferrably...*looks at the prominent members list and sitewide rankings*...Thorn or DsS. RPG would work too since he's done judging in this vein before. Also Zeupar if no one volunteers I'm probably going to pick you as my partner despite what you said to me earlier. >_>

EDIT: Though it is mostly implied, I should note that I'm only taking into account current records. I'm not looking through stat histories to see every record ever that had a 7. That's just crazy.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on October 20, 2010, 11:53:50 am
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/818/okwiththis.png)
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Strong Bad on October 20, 2010, 03:41:28 pm
oh u know i'll do it zeph
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Thorn on October 20, 2010, 03:44:05 pm
Okay, I'll help, since I have the day off from work and classes tomorrow. I won't be home until late tonight, and I may be picking up Super Scribblenauts which could distract me for whatever time I do have tonight.

I thought about Top 10s while walking between classes today but didn't come up with a good category, so eh.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on November 04, 2010, 09:42:18 am
That was the best Top Tens ever! You guys totally deserve a standing ovation!


Seriously :3no, really
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on November 04, 2010, 03:21:25 pm
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/bosses/finalhazard/last

Best record
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on November 04, 2010, 03:25:55 pm
Hey, I've been asking Thorn to help me for a while now but he always has some lame excuse like "omghomework" or "g2gdinner". In other news, I currently have it narrowed down to 316 records (out of 962). Maybe if someone would help me this process would go a lot faster >:O.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: werster on November 04, 2010, 06:26:28 pm
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/bosses/finalhazard/last

Best record

http://league.soniccenter.org/rankings/spring_2009_league/round_2/sonic_adventure_2_battle_-_finalhazard_-_last

Except not :(
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on November 21, 2010, 04:10:43 am
I AM INCREDIBLY SKEPTICAL OF YOUR CLAIM.

Also I just noticed that this topic is 2 posts below that other topic of rambling and fail, two more people respond to this so that once again it can be THE GREATEST.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on November 21, 2010, 04:12:56 am
INSURGENCY
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on November 21, 2010, 04:13:46 am
Exquisite.
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Luxray on November 21, 2010, 04:17:49 am
Also tell me, What's with John Freeman being your Signature?
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Bilan on November 21, 2010, 04:22:43 am
"No bro *finger waggle*" is a pseudo injoke that a friend and I have running atm, so she made a gif of it for me to use on my uni societys message board and I decided to change my TSC sig to it too >_>
Title: Re: The Official Top Tens Topic
Post by: Buizel on November 21, 2010, 11:54:37 am
http://www.soniccenter.org/rankings/sonic_adventure_2_b/bosses/finalhazard/last

Best record
LOL. Maybe if you help me with TSCA2B! Also Thorn continues to give excuses that I am incredulous of, so I will probably end up doing this alone...unless I stop you >:O can get DsS to help me?!

In any case, I'm getting this started on December 2nd, with #1 being revealed on the 11th.

EDIT: yeah, that didn't happen, but it was because my computer got infected with stuff ok. New dates TBA.