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Bored again, back to haxxing
« on: March 23, 2008, 01:26:45 PM »
Beta is here.

Yeah, another S2 hack, I'm bored. Emerald Hill 1 through Chemical Plant 2 has been designed, with a few lagging layout choices from Turbo (the good parts, I swear). Special Stage 1 is done up to the second checkpoint; everything after that is leftover from Sonic 2. Levels are longer this time around due to ASM modding being more forgiving than hex modding.  That pesky aerial speedcap is nerfed too.

I have music plans, but as with Turbo I'll worry about new sound driver implementation at a later date. I'll use the Sonic 1 driver instead of the Sonic 2 Beta driver this time around, so no screechy noises.

Typical replies may follow.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2008, 11:36:36 PM by Thorn »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 03:17:22 PM »
Typical response asking that music needs to be changed in all acts but am too lazy to specify which music should go where leading to you becoming annoyed and then making a post that will ask which music should go where while I take forever to answer that post.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2008, 04:00:32 PM by Rick_242 »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 08:09:38 PM »
Although MegaUpload is started to have some damned perverted advertising. >_>

This is probably because they also host megarotic.com

Or was it megerotic. Mega I think, its a bit shite though. Not that Id know. A friend told me. Yes.

No I did not make this post solely to find out my IP.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 08:48:02 PM »

Yeah, I'm genuinely bored when I'm making zone-specific springs. >_>

EDIT: Boredom is also defined as SSh-ing into your university's UNIX server to read Matlab's output for the why command. *sigh*
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 09:30:43 PM by Thorn »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 04:52:13 PM »

Pretty self-explanatory; don't get hit or die in a level to double your ring bonus. The removal of the perfect bonus also allows for using "object rings" in the level, effectively nulling the 255-ring-per-act limit in Sonic 2.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 02:54:10 AM »
"Not hit bonus" sounds horrible.  I'm sure there's a word out there you can use in its place.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 12:47:32 PM »
^Don't think I haven't realized. :s I've been thinking all night and have nothing. If you have a seven-character phrase to use in its place, please enlighten me. It was initially "no-hit", but that didn't line up. Initial thoughts are...

Unscathed - 9
Flawless - 8
Unharmed - 8
No-hit - 6
Safety - 6

Thesaurus.com isn't giving me any help either; the only seven-letter word it has is "perfect", which obviously would cause confusion. Until I figure out how to reposition the on-screen text, I can only replace existing letters.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 07:17:17 PM »
Damage bonu
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2008, 01:51:49 PM »
"Unrival" bonus.

"Unrival" is the name of the invincibility tunes in the later Sonic games.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2008, 04:56:26 PM »
Just call it technique bonus like in SSR :/

Thorn EDIT: 9 != 7

Whoops, didn't notice character limit...anyways, Tech bonus like RPG said.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2008, 10:42:45 PM »
Tech Bonus?
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2008, 04:30:25 PM »
...you guys misunderstand [sic] me. EXACTLY 7. Not less, not more k.

If I use a different amount, I hafta shift the words on screen around to re-center things. And to be honest, that's probably not that difficult, but I'm just too lazy to modify the mappings. Tweaker's makes sense; question is, will anybody else get the reference...

Anyway, I'm busy working on level designs for Puto's hack, Sonic 1 Remastered, so I haven't even touched this in a month.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2008, 06:54:23 PM »
Awesome bonus >_>
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2008, 07:13:50 PM »
I heartily agree with RR.

Also srry I thought you meant it was a max of 7, not actually 7 :(
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2008, 04:35:13 AM »
Couldn't you fill blank spots with spaces or something?

Or am I a noob and there are no spaces?

Otherwise, Awesome Bonus is great.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2008, 03:23:33 PM »
^ I'm drawing those letters, so there's whatever I draw in. But the space between Perfect and Bonus has to stay the same, as that's programmed and not part of the drawing. If I put space at the beginning or stretch the letters, it'll look distorted.

Again, I'm working on a different project anyway.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2008, 11:06:25 PM »
Here's a YouTube vid of the mod in action.

Here's some music mods I did for mine hax, and the original of one of the tunes for reference.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2008, 12:40:55 AM by Thorn »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2008, 04:17:12 PM »
Mod looks nice, liking the 2nd act of Emerald Hill.

The music mod file isn't working for me. And what's with that random Dynamite Headdy track? lol

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2008, 04:19:09 PM »
^The Dynamite Headdy track is for Casino Night 1.

Also what is your media player? WinAMP has given some people problems (it doesn't play that first .wav file), but WMP, Audacity, and Lilith have handled them fine.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2008, 04:40:16 PM »
WMP didn't work, but Audacity does. Sounds alright but I personally don't know it's the most appropriate choice of track for conversion.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2008, 04:44:44 PM »
Well, I suppose I can convert Never Gonna Give You Up instead...
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2008, 10:08:48 PM »
From Sonic Retro:

Okay, a small beta is available here, so DL and comment on anything and everything, please. Music, art, layout, bugs... every tip counts. If you're looking for screens, the video from the first post is pretty close to the current beta.

Current Status
- Layouts up to Chemical Plant 2 are finished, and Special Stage 1 is done
- Sonic 1 Sound Driver ported, about half of tunes modified to work correctly
- Hub /overworld system half-implemented

Eventually-To-Be
- Character-specific programming (i.e. Tails flying)
- More layouts and special stages, obviously
-DNXDelta doesn't have much in this beta, but he's working on other things such as this.


Issues
- Sonic 1 Sound Driver is buggy as hell. Srsly.
- Layouts are designed with character-specific abilities in mind, so some things are unreachable.

Credits
shobiz - general tech help as well as guide for S3K Rings in S2
All who worked on the S1 Sound Driver in S2
Irixion - traded information to him, received S3K DAC in return :P
« Last Edit: July 08, 2008, 10:21:40 PM by Thorn »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2008, 11:14:55 PM »
Music is good but, Zone 2 music needs some work. Not exactly feeling it (though iono what it is anyway). The scenery from Zone 1 is somewhat... bland. Mainly the pink.

Also, the overworld idea is sexy. I might have came.

As per usual I provide a pic of some hax. This is one is more due to spring placement.

Pretty good for a small beta.

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2008, 05:03:15 AM »
I personally think this is an AWESOME hack...

please change nothing about the first two zones (or at least the FZFA ^_^)

more info once you bother to awaken....

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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2008, 11:27:50 AM »


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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2008, 12:37:34 AM »
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2008, 11:33:57 PM »
Overworld music should be changed to race to win but not as sucky (make it a little better).

Act 1 and 2 need music overhaul with something else and boss fight is still pathetic with useless platforms.

Enclosed is a pic I drew half asleep and sick.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2008, 07:30:28 PM »
It's the time of year when everybody makes panic submissions to the Sonic Retro Hacking Contest, so obligatory release. You can use the Java applet on the page to demo the hack, but the applet can't replicate PSG tones (so the sound will suck hard) and is prone to freezing during level transitions. I'd recommend downloading the hack from the link instead of using the applet.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2008, 12:38:28 AM »
Well, with my partner on the project, DNXDelta, saying he's "leaving the scene" and whatnot, now's as good a time as ever to put up another YouTube video for showing off WIPs, in case he doesn't come back for ages and I grow bored of hacking and drama drama drama. Aside from "You really need to learn to edit title cards; having more than one Emerald Hill 1 is lol," comments and criticism appreciated as always (read: taken offense to, met with rebuttal, spawn arguments).

I swore I'd stop putting up YouTube vids after sifting through tens of messages in my inbox asking for hacking lessons... I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.
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Re: Bored again, back to haxxing
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2009, 07:44:13 PM »
Triple posting, screw all of you. Link.
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